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hero member
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January 13, 2013, 05:30:53 AM
#21
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So it's pull the one share out and back to the drawing board? What kind of investments would you recommend on btct.co?
Don't get me wrong. EASECURITY is a great asset. On LTC-Global the prices ranges between 3.0 and 4.5 so you can earn some extra money with day-trading. But you probably have to be a gambler because no one knows when the ship will sink.
newbie
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January 13, 2013, 04:45:22 AM
#20
Neotrix, how do you justify paying about 70% per year interest on this loan? No matter how I look at it, you could get a loan elsewhere for cheaper than that.
The fact, that Koddos specializes in hosting and protecting HYIP makes me wonder if you somehow got inspired by your clients.

Again, what is your justification for paying so much interest?
hero member
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January 10, 2013, 05:13:27 PM
#19
About 1.4% dividend per week?

Wouldn't that make an annual ROI of 72.8%?

Why the hell would somebody pay so much for a loan to buy servers? What about banks?

It seems too good to be true and while the company as such apparently exists since 2009 and seems to be involved in those bonds, common sense tells me that it's too much return for a legit investment.

Anybody can give more input?
You are not the only one who has doubts about this bond.
Why do you think they haven't sold all shares yet? Koddos is a well-known hoster but paying ~73% for a loan looks quite unreasonable.
Nobody can prove that it is a ponzi scheme but I think everyone suspects it.

Same happened with pirate: Most people knew that it was a scam and hoped to leave the boat at the right time.

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Seeing the Bitcoin price went up to 14 BTC. Reminded me that every share of ESECURITYSABTC is summing up in USD which means that the price of it should be like only 0.71 btc each now. Strange to see nothing move. BTW, neotrix could you sell some out. Since the shares are far low from the issue limit of 2500. Guys would be interested to invest at a lower price and it wont affect your business since each share still got its 10usd in your Usd summed financial sheet
neotrix always puts a conversion on the price.

Here's some more info on it from a while back (this relates to the LTC versions of the bond):

http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,915.0.html
newbie
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January 10, 2013, 04:31:52 PM
#18
About 1.4% dividend per week?

Wouldn't that make an annual ROI of 72.8%?

Why the hell would somebody pay so much for a loan to buy servers? What about banks?

It seems too good to be true and while the company as such apparently exists since 2009 and seems to be involved in those bonds, common sense tells me that it's too much return for a legit investment.

Anybody can give more input?
You are not the only one who has doubts about this bond.
Why do you think they haven't sold all shares yet? Koddos is a well-known hoster but paying ~73% for a loan looks quite unreasonable.
Nobody can prove that it is a ponzi scheme but I think everyone suspects it.

Same happened with pirate: Most people knew that it was a scam and hoped to leave the boat at the right time.

So it's pull the one share out and back to the drawing board? What kind of investments would you recommend on btct.co? BTC-BOND looks a bit more solid... Mining bonds lose value and some like RSM seem to be worthless now due to other reasons.
hero member
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January 10, 2013, 04:22:11 PM
#17
About 1.4% dividend per week?

Wouldn't that make an annual ROI of 72.8%?

Why the hell would somebody pay so much for a loan to buy servers? What about banks?

It seems too good to be true and while the company as such apparently exists since 2009 and seems to be involved in those bonds, common sense tells me that it's too much return for a legit investment.

Anybody can give more input?
You are not the only one who has doubts about this bond.
Why do you think they haven't sold all shares yet? Koddos is a well-known hoster but paying ~73% for a loan looks quite unreasonable.
Nobody can prove that it is a ponzi scheme but I think everyone suspects it.

Same happened with pirate: Most people knew that it was a scam and hoped to leave the boat at the right time.

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Seeing the Bitcoin price went up to 14 BTC. Reminded me that every share of ESECURITYSABTC is summing up in USD which means that the price of it should be like only 0.71 btc each now. Strange to see nothing move. BTW, neotrix could you sell some out. Since the shares are far low from the issue limit of 2500. Guys would be interested to invest at a lower price and it wont affect your business since each share still got its 10usd in your Usd summed financial sheet
neotrix always puts a conversion on the price.
newbie
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January 10, 2013, 03:57:11 PM
#16
About 1.4% dividend per week?

Wouldn't that make an annual ROI of 72.8%?

Why the hell would somebody pay so much for a loan to buy servers? What about banks?

It seems too good to be true and while the company as such apparently exists since 2009 and seems to be involved in those bonds, common sense tells me that it's too much return for a legit investment.

Anybody can give more input?
hero member
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Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou
January 10, 2013, 12:32:01 PM
#15
Seeing the Bitcoin price went up to 14 BTC. Reminded me that every share of ESECURITYSABTC is summing up in USD which means that the price of it should be like only 0.71 btc each now. Strange to see nothing move. BTW, neotrix could you sell some out. Since the shares are far low from the issue limit of 2500. Guys would be interested to invest at a lower price and it wont affect your business since each share still got its 10usd in your Usd summed financial sheet
sr. member
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January 06, 2013, 05:33:29 AM
#14
Dear shareholders

Please find below the detail:

250 shares = 1 server
359 shares sold = 1 server + 43.6% of 1 server
monthly dividend is 135 usd / 4.34 (average number of week in one month) = 31.11 usd
Weekly dividend of one server is also 31.11 usd
31.11 usd + 43.6% of 31.11= 44.67396 usd
Weekly dividend for this week is 44.67396 usd

Convertion rate BTC/USD 13.1
33.97212= 2.583431 BTC
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Total dividend for this week :  3.41022595 btc
Dividend per share = 0.00949924 btc

Regards, Neotrix
sr. member
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December 23, 2012, 05:16:14 AM
#13
Please find below the detail of the weekly dividend:

250 shares = 1 server
198 shares sold = 79.2% of 1 server
monthly dividend is 135 usd / 4.34 (average number of week in one month) = 31.11 usd
Weekly dividend of one server is also 31.11 usd
79.2% of 31.11 usd = 24.63912 usd
Weekly dividend for this week is 24.63912 usd

Convertion rate BTC/USD 13.1
24.63912= 1.880848 BTC
I'm adding  0.3 btc from extra convertion.

Total dividend for this week : 2.180848btc
Dividend per share = 0.011014383 btc


Regards, Neotrix
sr. member
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December 20, 2012, 03:26:44 PM
#12
Just wondering, what exactly do you mean by "extra conversion"?

He tends to sell shares slightly above the actual BTC price they'd need to be to raise exactly $10 (makes sense - as it protects against small exchange-rate changes while offline).  Extra conversion is what he says he has left over after selling the BTC and taking out the $10 per share.

It's exactly that, thanks Deprived. Ipo isn't really made on USD, 10 usd per share, as quoted in contract. BTC have a variable price and also extra convertion dividend are extra sitting after I got 10 usd per share ( I trade on BTC-E for infos, as its the only one able to pay me in fast time)
I could keep those extra convertion as its seem I choose often the right moment to sell btc to usd but I like to respect the contract quoting I can get 10 usd per share, so all extra sitting are reversed as extra convertion. Anyway the reply is done and you are welcome if you have any others question  Smiley.
hero member
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December 17, 2012, 11:58:36 AM
#11
Just wondering, what exactly do you mean by "extra conversion"?

He tends to sell shares slightly above the actual BTC price they'd need to be to raise exactly $10 (makes sense - as it protects against small exchange-rate changes while offline).  Extra conversion is what he says he has left over after selling the BTC and taking out the $10 per share.
hero member
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December 17, 2012, 08:09:49 AM
#10
Just wondering, what exactly do you mean by "extra conversion"?
sr. member
Activity: 428
Merit: 250
December 17, 2012, 01:07:19 AM
#9
Please find below the detail for the weekly dividend:

250 shares = 1 server
91 shares sold = 36.4% of 1 server
monthly dividend is 135 usd / 4.34 (average number of week in one month) = 31.11 usd
Weekly dividend of one server is also 31.11 usd
3.6% of 31.11 usd = 11.32404 usd
Weekly dividend for this week is 11.32404 usd

Convertion rate BTC/USD 13.20
11.32404= 0.85788181 BTC
I'm adding  0.15 btc from extra convertion.

Total dividend for this week : 1.00788181btc
Dividend per share = 0.011075624 btc

Regards, Neotrix
sr. member
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December 09, 2012, 02:55:13 PM
#8
Do you let customers pay in btc? I checked out the website, and I didn't see it listed in the payment options.

We are actually looking to integrate it in the best way. Anyway we already accept payment in btc or even ltc. Logo will be added as soon we integrated this way to pay in our system.
hero member
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December 09, 2012, 02:38:09 PM
#7
Do you let customers pay in btc? I checked out the website, and I didn't see it listed in the payment options.
sr. member
Activity: 428
Merit: 250
December 08, 2012, 03:22:23 PM
#6
    

Dear shareholders

Please find below the detail of this weekly dividend:

250 shares = 1 server
69 shares sold = 27.6% of 1 server
monthly dividend is 135 usd / 4.34 (average number of week in one month) = 31.11 usd
Weekly dividend of one server is also 31.11 usd
27.6% of 31.11 usd = 8.58536 usd
Weekly dividend for this week is 8.58536 usd

Convertion rate BTC/USD 12.15
8.58536 = 0.70661399 BTC

Server dividend for this week : 0.70661399 BTC
+ 0.45 BTC obtained from extra convertion rate
Total dividend for this week : 1.15661399btc

Dividend per share = 0.01676252 btc

Regards, Neotrix
sr. member
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December 08, 2012, 03:21:14 PM
#5
Dividend failed! Cry

Re- issued Wink + another 0.011111 btc per share
sr. member
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December 05, 2012, 07:28:59 PM
#4
Dividend failed! Cry
sr. member
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Merit: 250
December 05, 2012, 01:48:51 PM
#3
Extra bonus is good! ...most good! Grin
sr. member
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December 05, 2012, 12:31:42 PM
#2
Dear shareholders

Extra bonus issued after the sale of some new shares.
0.12 BTC issued as extra bonus dividend.

0.00923077 BTC per share

Regards, Neotrix
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