Topic: Bter.com froze 3129000 NXT and need you help to return to the owner (Read 4946 times)

I understand that You want to minimize loses, but he would not contact You and make this offer if he was not scared as fuck. There was lot of traces to him, he know that and You should hold on. Anyway I am glad for You.

and BTC can not be converted to USD ? hmm go figure you learn something new everyday lol

Check your facts. It was in BTC.

should this so called fair currency with superior distribution methods have a guy sitting on half a million usd playing banker ?
can you say centralized ? lol

seriously people get out of these shit coins like NXT etc

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Yes it's a publicity stunt, it has to be.

the whole thing doesn't make sense and is fishy as fuck.... BTER needs to give real information that can help track the hacker and threw him in jail, if the hack thing is all true because the whole thing doesn't make any sense to me...

hope your problem will be solved.

good luck

Yes this echos the Roger Ver's case.  Where almost no information is shared with the public,  the hacker allegedly turns themselves in for the bounty and nobody goes to jail and it's quietly swept under the rug.

It must be one of those bad publicity is still publicity, stunts (marketing technique).

If someone was a real hacker who got away stealing huge amounts then they wouldn't turn themselves in.  Almost nobody goes to jail over crypto currencies unless it's drug related like Charlie Shrem.

Agree, need Bitcoin to be 100% secure...

Hero members getting $500,000+ BTC stolen is the epitome example of why BTC will never go mainstream without 3rd parties handling security for the goods.  Sure, there will still be the option of "be your own banker", if you really want to, but the vast majority of people will be better off not doing so.  If anyone actually uses this stuff, they'll want something like a Coinbase crypto credit card that deducts funds and does off the block transactions from a 3rd party.

BTC is limited TPS-wise, so it's gonna go that direction regardless.  On the block transactions will just be for settling payments between larger institutions maybe.

Yesterday night (Greek timezone) I got an email from  the hacker.

I verified it is him.

He is willing to return a part of my BTC back (462BTC in 2 chunks - first in 24h and the next after 36 days) and MAYBE 1/2 or 1/3 of the 3M NXT Infrastructure Funds.

I insisted much on the later, as I feel terribly sorry for the loss - I will fill the remaining amount.

His conditions:

1) Publicly write that you have no claim to me (better in your topic) -
I HAVE NO FURTHER CLAIM FOR MORE THAN 462BTC AND THE PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS. BUT IF I DON'T GET THE REMAINING 231BTC AFTER 36 DAYS I WILL REOPEN THIS ISSUE!!
2) Will you write address where to send the BTC (better in your topic)
16NCirZABu9i56hKzfUjEvP44SdNeLRSN3
3) Close your topic on bitcointalk, NXT forum and other.
PLEASE CLOSE THIS TOPIC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNqFABM6M2A

uh oh its all coming apart,  i'll leave you guys to this..

sorry but i am not buying "i was hacked" 

lol..
Maybe he live in ego world and dont care about other things that happen beside himself.
Same example that you found a wallet in a street, dont take it because if you take it than you are robber lol, even you take it just for return it.
Am i wrong here??

btw, i support how the bter take action.

According to NXT dump party on BTER there were 3 mil of NXT sold for BTC:



Are these BTC also frozen or were they transfered to some other BTC adress already and if so, to which? This adress may be another clue.

Posting this kind of serious topics in BTT alt section is a free-call to trolls to come and post their stupid and harmful opinions.

Hope OP (bter admin) close this thread as soon as the issue is solved.

The thief lost the right to the coins when he transferred them to someone else's account (BTER). At that point there was a consensual, voluntary relationship between BTER and the thief, one which was entered into by false pretenses (the thief was not known as a thief). It is not a matter of legality but of simple ethics. The only concern might be that an account was "framed" for some reason -- but that's simple, too. Say the account holder notifies BTER with the claim that they are not the thief. Maybe, maybe not. But we know for sure whose coins they are, so send the funds back to Klee, and any preexisting funds should be left to the "maybe-thief".

As long as any preexisting funds in the account aren't withheld, there is no ethical dilemma. BTER is not stealing, they are removing consent from being party to abet an existing theft of property, now that they have proof of the theft.

This is the line in the sand I draw with blacklisting, and anything else, really. Voluntary interaction only. I can have a personal "blacklist" which I call a greylist, since using colors for lists is a thing. It's very short.

But most people in Bitcoin when discussing this train of thought, whether it's called redlisting or blacklisting or whatever, are referring to some sort of mandatory process that becomes an enforced part of Bitcoin or something, which removes the ability to consent from the mix. That , therefore, I cannot support.

Greylisting, my term for personal, voluntary lists -- tbh, I just named it now for this post, I can't lie -- is something everyone already has, anyway. You and you alone choose who you trade and interact with (and they as well), for myriad reasons. Maybe you just don't like their faces. You may be judged for public interactions and trades (or also for not interacting or trading), and treated accordingly. Thus people may greylist you for bad behavior, or prefer you over another otherwise equivalent trade partner for prior behavior they liked. Each individual may then also be judged and greylisted for their public greylists, and so on. Bottom line, it's all voluntary, including the private/public part.

This, as far as I know, is the only ethically- and logically-consistent manner to do such things.

uhh no..

the thief deserves to keep his coins.. it's a Free Market ..you can't call the police sorry

and how secure is NXT then ?

edit:
The guy running the NXT community funds probably wanted to cash some out... but
the exchange seen it and stopped him and created a forum account to give the coins back lol