BTW US Govt does NOT recognize anybody as Satoshi - page 2.

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Quote from: ðºÞæ on May 23, 2019, 01:44:26 AM

Moving signing coins is a trolls prove, it does not prove anything other that having possession on time of movement.
Satoshi can give Craig the coins he moves it, he gives the coins back, cheap troll is satisfies he has seen "prove".
Everyone lives happily thereafter.

Why would it be a trolls prove?
Only the real owner could move it and why would the real creator let the fake have it?
This is the only way that I think would solve this issue if Craig is the real creator he should just move it to prove that he is indeed the real one.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on May 23, 2019, 12:55:03 AM

it seems like the "hype" has died as they are now done pumping the shitcoin known as BSV but in case you missed it US copyright office made an official announcement saying they do not recognize anybody, specifically Craig Wright, as Satoshi Nakamoto despite what lots of clickbait news sites have been saying a day ago when the shitcoin pump began.

link: https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html

I won't believe anyone claiming to be Satoshi UNLESS he/she/they can move the coins in the wallet that received the Block 1000 reward.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1BW18n7MfpU35q4MTBSk8pse3XzQF8XvzT

Not even god or the devil can move these coins. Only the real Satoshi Nakamoto can. Cool

Let's call this the Block 1000 challenge Grin

This should be the litmus test for Craig Wright and we should never accept any explanation or any ground why he can't move those wallets. Of course, being a man of lies and many bad jokes, he will try to explain things away. In my opinion, Craig Wright is just manipulating the whole industry and the media (including the mainstream) for his own interest. And the more attention he got, the happier he is. At any rate, he can be the official entertainer of the whole cryptocurrency industry and since he is not demanding for us to pay him then let's let him do whatever he enjoys to do.

I totally agree. Only the true bitcoin creator can move these coins.
Anyone can claim to have created bitcoin.
Only the real Satoshi can move these coins.

Move these coins as proof and sign the message. Grin

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Quote from: ðºÞæ on May 23, 2019, 01:44:26 AM

Moving signing coins is a trolls prove, it does not prove anything other that having possession on time of movement.
Satoshi can give Craig the coins he moves it, he gives the coins back, cheap troll is satisfies he has seen "prove".
Everyone lives happily thereafter.

Do you really believe Craig would give it back to Satoshi? I read enough news and his interviews to know that CSW is a narcissist focused on making money at all cost and people like him will lie and deceive without remorse. If he had Satoshi's coins even for a minute he'd never give it back and spend it on making other people's live harder.
For starters he'd use the money to damage BCH. BTC is too strong but BCH would make a good target.

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Quote from: pushups44 on May 23, 2019, 01:54:29 AM

Quote from: BrewMaster on May 23, 2019, 12:55:03 AM

it seems like the "hype" has died as they are now done pumping the shitcoin known as BSV but in case you missed it US copyright office made an official announcement saying they do not recognize anybody, specifically Craig Wright, as Satoshi Nakamoto despite what lots of clickbait news sites have been saying a day ago when the shitcoin pump began.

link: https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html

Ultimately, for a coin to have sustained value it has to operate with integrity. Fooling the public with gimmicks such as the copyright registration above will only lead to temporary pumps that will be followed by dumps. Investors generally don't like liars.

A lot of times we have seen people come up and make false claims to being Satoshi, and time and time again we discover the truth that they are just doing so for attention and to their benefits, so at this point i blame it on the people for actually giving them the attention, so i hope that Craig gets sewed for false claiming in order to make and example from him so no other fools in future will think twice before lying publicly about being the creator of bitcoin.

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Craig is obviously making stories and just trying to make people believe that he's the real Satoshi which is obviously not true due to his inconsistency. As for me, it's better to ignore him. It's just a good thing that despite all the controversies that he made, Bsv was still able to rise continuously.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on May 23, 2019, 04:14:37 AM

Quote from: ðºÞæ on May 23, 2019, 01:21:54 AM

It only costs $55 to challenge it but it is a crime to do a false claim.

No. It cost $55 to file a claim (false or not). It's technically a crime to make a false claim but the maximum penality is $2500 and as far as anyone has determined so far, no one has ever been charged under it.

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The fact is this registration can legally be challenged, basically an open invitation.

Unfortunately this isn't true. If wright tries to take any action he would simply lose because he is an enormous scammer, but it would be his move so he simply won't do it.

Only the government can enforce the law against making a false registration, but presumably they won't because they haven't bothered before.

Fortunately, the copyright registration has absolutely no effect other than just helping wright defraud people. -- just like it had no effect when someone previously did it (if you search you'll see there is another one for bitcoin done by a prior scammer back in 2016). https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ronald-keala-kua-maria-claiming-to-be-satoshi-and-registering-trademark-4519202

1. the C.O dont investigate, it requires a opposing human to make a counter claim, and to take the counter claim to court to argue that craig is a scammer.

2. "if craig tries to take any action he would simply lose".. what if the game is not to take people to court and spend millions on lawyers for craig to win, but for craig to just send out dodgy C&D letters threatening court action and then making the recipient waste money. by which most C&D recipients just pay up the settlement fee just to make it go away
(standard patent troll scam..)
its like the encrypted harddrive viruses. 'pay up in 72 hours or else'
C&D: dont do X or we will take you to court, pay me $x now and you can continue

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Soon enough everyone is probably going to forget about this and Craig Wright will be satisfied with the profit of millions of dollars he made from pumping his BSV coin. That was surely his plan from the beginning and until now everything went smooth for him. I don't think anyone will try to suit him for false claims and if they do I'm sure his lawyers are ready for it even though I don't think the government would waste their time with this in the first place.

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Quote from: ðºÞæ on May 23, 2019, 01:21:54 AM

Without challenge expect Bitcoin © enforced over time.

How exactly would that copyright be enforced? Can you explain?

I think this is just another instance of Wright saying, "Look, I'm Satoshi!" A small subset of people will believe him without any further research, and that's all he needs.

He's obviously trying to pump BSV, but I strongly feel there's something else at play with all his fraudulent behavior. Maybe he's just mentally deranged.

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Quote from: Alpha0One1 on May 23, 2019, 01:31:08 AM

Quote from: BrewMaster on May 23, 2019, 12:55:03 AM

it seems like the "hype" has died as they are now done pumping the shitcoin known as BSV but in case you missed it US copyright office made an official announcement saying they do not recognize anybody, specifically Craig Wright, as Satoshi Nakamoto despite what lots of clickbait news sites have been saying a day ago when the shitcoin pump began.

link: https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html

I won't believe anyone claiming to be Satoshi UNLESS he/she/they can move the coins in the wallet that received the Block 1000 reward.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1BW18n7MfpU35q4MTBSk8pse3XzQF8XvzT

Not even god or the devil can move these coins. Only the real Satoshi Nakamoto can. Cool

Let's call this the Block 1000 challenge Grin

This should be the litmus test for Craig Wright and we should never accept any explanation or any ground why he can't move those wallets. Of course, being a man of lies and many bad jokes, he will try to explain things away. In my opinion, Craig Wright is just manipulating the whole industry and the media (including the mainstream) for his own interest. And the more attention he got, the happier he is. At any rate, he can be the official entertainer of the whole cryptocurrency industry and since he is not demanding for us to pay him then let's let him do whatever he enjoys to do.

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Quote from: ðºÞæ on May 23, 2019, 01:21:54 AM

It only costs $55 to challenge it but it is a crime to do a false claim.

No. It cost $55 to file a claim (false or not). It's technically a crime to make a false claim but the maximum penality is $2500 and as far as anyone has determined so far, no one has ever been charged under it.

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The fact is this registration can legally be challenged, basically an open invitation.

Unfortunately this isn't true. If wright tries to take any action he would simply lose because he is an enormous scammer, but it would be his move so he simply won't do it.

Only the government can enforce the law against making a false registration, but presumably they won't because they haven't bothered before.

Fortunately, the copyright registration has absolutely no effect other than just helping wright defraud people. -- just like it had no effect when someone previously did it (if you search you'll see there is another one for bitcoin done by a prior scammer back in 2016). https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ronald-keala-kua-maria-claiming-to-be-satoshi-and-registering-trademark-4519202

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Quote from: ðºÞæ on May 23, 2019, 01:21:54 AM

The fact is this registration can legally be challenged, basically an open invitation.

but who is going to do that?
people in this market are either enjoying his shenanigans because they have some profit in it (one way or another) or they don't even recognize the centralized authority to even intervene in decentralized bitcoin world.

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As for me, the pump of Bsv doesn't necessarily mean that crypto and the government agrees and supports Craig as he claims that he's Satoshi. He should actually pay for pretending and stealing the real Satoshi's identity. Satoshi has his own reason of keeping his identity in private and we should respect that.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on May 23, 2019, 12:55:03 AM

it seems like the "hype" has died as they are now done pumping the shitcoin known as BSV but in case you missed it US copyright office made an official announcement saying they do not recognize anybody, specifically Craig Wright, as Satoshi Nakamoto despite what lots of clickbait news sites have been saying a day ago when the shitcoin pump began.

link: https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html

Ultimately, for a coin to have sustained value it has to operate with integrity. Fooling the public with gimmicks such as the copyright registration above will only lead to temporary pumps that will be followed by dumps.

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Well, if it is true that it is a criminal offense to make false claims, then we will see Craig Wright going to jail soon. Wink

...Nooot!

Craig Wright will have to go to court and prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto and that is a very difficult task if you have no private keys for the Bitcoin addresses that were used by Satoshi Nakamoto when he still mined coins.

Will the courts and lawyers know how signed messages work in Bitcoin? Will they get Bitcoin experts to dispute his claims in court? Time will tell... Tongue

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Moving signing coins is a trolls prove, it does not prove anything other that having possession on time of movement.
Satoshi can give Craig the coins he moves it, he gives the coins back, cheap troll is satisfies he has seen "prove".
Everyone lives happily thereafter.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on May 23, 2019, 12:55:03 AM

it seems like the "hype" has died as they are now done pumping the shitcoin known as BSV but in case you missed it US copyright office made an official announcement saying they do not recognize anybody, specifically Craig Wright, as Satoshi Nakamoto despite what lots of clickbait news sites have been saying a day ago when the shitcoin pump began.

link: https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html

I won't believe anyone claiming to be Satoshi UNLESS he/she/they can move the coins in the wallet that received the Block 1000 reward.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1BW18n7MfpU35q4MTBSk8pse3XzQF8XvzT

Not even god or the devil can move these coins. Only the real Satoshi Nakamoto can. Cool

Let's call this the Block 1000 challenge Grin

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This does not prove that CSW is Satoshi.
"Disputes over the claims in a registration may be heard before federal courts, including disputes over authorship of a work."

It only costs $55 to challenge it but it is a crime to do a false claim.

The fact is this registration can legally be challenged, basically an open invitation.

Without challenge expect Bitcoin © enforced over time.

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it seems like the "hype" has died as they are now done pumping the shitcoin known as BSV but in case you missed it US copyright office made an official announcement saying they do not recognize anybody, specifically Craig Wright, as Satoshi Nakamoto despite what lots of clickbait news sites have been saying a day ago when the shitcoin pump began.

link: https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html

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