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Quote from: hv_ on March 17, 2017, 08:08:37 AM

Quote from: pinkflower on March 17, 2017, 05:49:30 AM

Quote from: Xester on March 17, 2017, 03:43:09 AM

Quote from: cellard on March 14, 2017, 07:18:58 PM

This is great news. I was getting a bit worried a hard fork would actually happen, but looks like Jihan's little nerd dream to be the emperor of bitcoin will not happen. Sorry, Core wins another day, and now $3000 are actually possible in 2017.

If you what you are saying is true and bitcoins price will really reach 3000$ this year if Bitcoin Unlimited will be out of the picture then I will support the other group that is against BU. Well I just need to change my mindset since BU have cause the price of bitcoin to deflate and I dont like that thus I will support other means of solving bitcoin problems except for BU.

The same argument can be made against core too you know. The other side will blame them for not acting fast enough for having bigger blocks for BTC. We are all only arguing about it now but the real test will come if BTC will go down to under 1000 again and going lower.

It's very easy to finger point.

Who was and is actually in charge?

Who is 'still' in the driver seat and should care about consensus software = fits to all needs, no brainer features & quality, tested, bug-free, leaving no space for alternative bitcoin dev teams and even alt coins.

Explaining & convincing of features and their needs - marketing, selling ...

Deploying to majority.

Keeping things stable & running

Who you wanna blame for any failure ?

Did I blame anyone? Maybe English isnt your first language, so read and reread my post again until you get it.

Youre asking who is in charge? No one is. But the soft fork and the hard fork to BU depends on the miners now. According to the latest news, BU is hitting at 40% the last fee days.

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Here Fixed that for you. Cheesy

Segwit aka Deadwit is officially dead. Wink

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Quote from: bikbik2 on March 18, 2017, 12:31:47 AM

Quote from: cosmicblue on March 17, 2017, 05:45:14 PM

They have done something they were out to do with the bitcoin price tumbling very hard in the last 24 hours.
This was not seen from the BU attacks on bitcoin and it's technology the blockchain. Embarrassed

Such manipulations always occur on trade exchanges. The fact is that other currencies Under control and carry out unreasonable manipulation is very difficult, although this happens, and in the case of bitcoin, this is a deliberately planned fluctuation of the bitcoin rate, and large holders of bitcoins just so earn a difference in price.

I guess this is due to the glitched that happen the other day (price drop) and since BU is on the lead, FUD spread everywhere that the possibility of fork is inevitable thus making BTC price to plummet. This is all political agenda and I think neither BU or BC like this. But at the end they need to make sure they have the upper hand whenever the other is taking advantage resulting to this downward trend.

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Quote from: cosmicblue on March 17, 2017, 05:45:14 PM

They have done something they were out to do with the bitcoin price tumbling very hard in the last 24 hours.
This was not seen from the BU attacks on bitcoin and it's technology the blockchain. Embarrassed

Such manipulations always occur on trade exchanges. The fact is that other currencies Under control and carry out unreasonable manipulation is very difficult, although this happens, and in the case of bitcoin, this is a deliberately planned fluctuation of the bitcoin rate, and large holders of bitcoins just so earn a difference in price.

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They have done something they were set out to do with the bitcoin price tumbling very hard in the last 24 hours.
This was not seen from the BU attacks on bitcoin and it's technology the blockchain. Embarrassed

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Quote from: pinkflower on March 17, 2017, 05:49:30 AM

Quote from: Xester on March 17, 2017, 03:43:09 AM

Quote from: cellard on March 14, 2017, 07:18:58 PM

This is great news. I was getting a bit worried a hard fork would actually happen, but looks like Jihan's little nerd dream to be the emperor of bitcoin will not happen. Sorry, Core wins another day, and now $3000 are actually possible in 2017.

If you what you are saying is true and bitcoins price will really reach 3000$ this year if Bitcoin Unlimited will be out of the picture then I will support the other group that is against BU. Well I just need to change my mindset since BU have cause the price of bitcoin to deflate and I dont like that thus I will support other means of solving bitcoin problems except for BU.

The same argument can be made against core too you know. The other side will blame them for not acting fast enough for having bigger blocks for BTC. We are all only arguing about it now but the real test will come if BTC will go down to under 1000 again and going lower.

yes a little fluctuation can be seen but i think it is just for the time being and nto a permanent down fall and very soon we will see the price of bitcoin trading above 1200 USD very soon.

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Quote from: pinkflower on March 17, 2017, 05:49:30 AM

Quote from: Xester on March 17, 2017, 03:43:09 AM

Quote from: cellard on March 14, 2017, 07:18:58 PM

This is great news. I was getting a bit worried a hard fork would actually happen, but looks like Jihan's little nerd dream to be the emperor of bitcoin will not happen. Sorry, Core wins another day, and now $3000 are actually possible in 2017.

If you what you are saying is true and bitcoins price will really reach 3000$ this year if Bitcoin Unlimited will be out of the picture then I will support the other group that is against BU. Well I just need to change my mindset since BU have cause the price of bitcoin to deflate and I dont like that thus I will support other means of solving bitcoin problems except for BU.

The same argument can be made against core too you know. The other side will blame them for not acting fast enough for having bigger blocks for BTC. We are all only arguing about it now but the real test will come if BTC will go down to under 1000 again and going lower.

It's very easy to finger point.

Who was and is actually in charge?

Who is 'still' in the driver seat and should care about consensus software = fits to all needs, no brainer features & quality, tested, bug-free, leaving no space for alternative bitcoin dev teams and even alt coins.

Explaining & convincing of features and their needs - marketing, selling ...

Deploying to majority.

Keeping things stable & running

Who you wanna blame for any failure ?

pinkflower

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Quote from: Xester on March 17, 2017, 03:43:09 AM

Quote from: cellard on March 14, 2017, 07:18:58 PM

This is great news. I was getting a bit worried a hard fork would actually happen, but looks like Jihan's little nerd dream to be the emperor of bitcoin will not happen. Sorry, Core wins another day, and now $3000 are actually possible in 2017.

If you what you are saying is true and bitcoins price will really reach 3000$ this year if Bitcoin Unlimited will be out of the picture then I will support the other group that is against BU. Well I just need to change my mindset since BU have cause the price of bitcoin to deflate and I dont like that thus I will support other means of solving bitcoin problems except for BU.

The same argument can be made against core too you know. The other side will blame them for not acting fast enough for having bigger blocks for BTC. We are all only arguing about it now but the real test will come if BTC will go down to under 1000 again and going lower.

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Quote from: cellard on March 14, 2017, 07:18:58 PM

This is great news. I was getting a bit worried a hard fork would actually happen, but looks like Jihan's little nerd dream to be the emperor of bitcoin will not happen. Sorry, Core wins another day, and now $3000 are actually possible in 2017.

If you what you are saying is true and bitcoins price will really reach 3000$ this year if Bitcoin Unlimited will be out of the picture then I will support the other group that is against BU. Well I just need to change my mindset since BU have cause the price of bitcoin to deflate and I dont like that thus I will support other means of solving bitcoin problems except for BU.

hv_

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Quote from: jbreher on March 17, 2017, 02:55:56 AM

Quote from: -ck on March 15, 2017, 07:32:30 PM

The fact that the number of BU nodes is unchanged in light of the above speaks volumes for the type of people running them...

Yes. It demonstrates that we realize that a sub-optimal implementation of the right principles are more valuable than even an unrealizably- ideal implementation of the wrong principles. For the former can asymptotically approach perfection, while the latter is doomed to forever head off in the wrong direction.

And there is no proper industrial change management process for open source projects / or bitcoin is just too young compared to Linux ... so its a monster bumpy road we are on obviously.

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BUcoin is on the downtrend, they can't get more signaling, it is beneficial for bitcoin, and hard fork will kill bitcoin.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on March 15, 2017, 11:22:15 PM

ideally we shouldnt have to "trust" any group of developers. This is supposed to be decentralized and trustless.

I think it also depends on the developers who took over the project. For if the develepor have often taken over about it and most of their success in building the project then I would believe it 100% and follow it. Because it's been proven. And if it is not found then it could be the main reference is at the time of marketing such products if it is indeed being 50% then they have a good level of project

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Quote from: -ck on March 15, 2017, 07:32:30 PM

The fact that the number of BU nodes is unchanged in light of the above speaks volumes for the type of people running them...

Yes. It demonstrates that we realize that a sub-optimal implementation of the right principles are more valuable than even an unrealizably- ideal implementation of the wrong principles. For the former can asymptotically approach perfection, while the latter is doomed to forever head off in the wrong direction.

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Doesn't mean you read that you will believed on that sometimes the closer we look the lesser we see don't depends on the article sometimes they just want to make money the ads they trying to fool people many people want to believed that bitcoin is already dead or it will not take last long people now are being confused if they will continue to use this currency or just wait for another one to came up.

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Quote from: chopstick on March 16, 2017, 10:56:56 AM

No, it was just recently started being used by Core supporters.

As recently as Jan 2014...

Quote from: Holliday on January 10, 2014, 05:34:17 PM

If the miners (attempt to) do something which the holders disagree with, they will quickly find themselves mining worthless coins. The economic majority holds the actual power.

Quote from: chopstick on March 16, 2017, 10:56:56 AM

They're grasping at straws and you know it, lol

Someone is certainly grasping.

Quote from: chopstick on March 16, 2017, 10:56:56 AM

The "economic majority" are forced to use 1mb blocks, against their will, for now. doesn't mean they want to, or that most people are even remotely aware what the difference would be

I was forced to install Bitcoin Core. <----- Things that happen only in the mind of a BUtcoiner.

Reality check:

https://coin.dance/nodes/share

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Quote from: BillyBobZorton on March 16, 2017, 11:01:57 AM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on March 15, 2017, 11:22:15 PM

ideally we shouldnt have to "trust" any group of developers. This is supposed to be decentralized and trustless.

There's no need to trust when the code is open source. Just look at the code of Core, then look at what BU offers, you'll see how BU is objectively shit and can't get anything done without relying on Core's hard work.

ETH, DASH, ... is even more shit. But ?

Open your eyes - hard work is not all you might need...

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on March 15, 2017, 11:22:15 PM

ideally we shouldnt have to "trust" any group of developers. This is supposed to be decentralized and trustless.

There's no need to trust when the code is open source. Just look at the code of Core, then look at what BU offers, you'll see how BU is objectively shit and can't get anything done without relying on Core's hard work.

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Quote from: cr1776 on March 16, 2017, 10:52:52 AM

Quote from: chopstick on March 15, 2017, 03:08:15 PM

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This supposed "economic majority" is just another Ridiculous term invented recently to help push through Kore's propaganda.

The reality is that people want a blocksize increase. Some people have swallowed Kore's propaganda and think a blocksize increase is "too dangerous,"

You can't quantify any support in real, actual, tangible numbers based in fact.

Which means your "economic majority" is just more hot air.

"Economic majority" is a term that has been in use for quite a long time. Making up "facts" that it was created "recently" doesn't help the BU case.

Even a cursory search shows it in use in 2012:
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see, e.g. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1154809
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/3945/how-could-the-bitcoin-protocol-be-changed-has-this-ever-occurred#comment4983_3948

)

No, it was just recently started being used by Core supporters.

They're grasping at straws and you know it, lol

The "economic majority" are forced to use 1mb blocks, against their will, for now. doesn't mean they want to, or that most people are even remotely aware what the difference would be

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Quote from: chopstick on March 15, 2017, 03:08:15 PM

...

This supposed "economic majority" is just another Ridiculous term invented recently to help push through Kore's propaganda.

The reality is that people want a blocksize increase. Some people have swallowed Kore's propaganda and think a blocksize increase is "too dangerous,"

You can't quantify any support in real, actual, tangible numbers based in fact.

Which means your "economic majority" is just more hot air.

"Economic majority" is a term that has been in use for quite a long time. Making up "facts" that it was created "recently" doesn't help the BU case.

Even a cursory search shows it in use in 2012:
(
see, e.g. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1154809
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/3945/how-could-the-bitcoin-protocol-be-changed-has-this-ever-occurred#comment4983_3948

)

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Quote from: Paashaas on March 15, 2017, 10:48:15 PM

Welcome on my ignore list, FUDsters like you are a disgrace for Bitcoin.

You can't argue any of one of my points, you can't prove anything wrong. So you just put me on ignore. Brilliant.

Ignorance, it's all you people have.

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