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April 21, 2018, 11:38:39 AM
For those here who are using HiveOS I recommend that you do a reinstall with the 0.5-45 Image and not just do an update.

https://hiveos.farm/install

0.5-45 IMAGE RELEASE 2018-04-19

    Logs are OFF by default
    Linux 4.13 kernel
    Installed ROCm with AMD driver to support Vega
    Configs partition is now NTFS
    Intel's E1000E updated network driver by default

0.5-45 2018-04-17

    NEW: cpuminer-opt
    ethminer 0.14 and 0.15 in the box, version can be selected in the wallet
    amdmeminfo updated

The image uses Linux 4.13 kernel and if you just do the update you will still be on the 4.10 kernel.

On thing I noticed is that on the Linux 4.13 "mpstat -P ALL" now reports the 32 cores on my 4x 8837's correctly whereas Linux 4.10 reported 40 cores with 2-dummy per processor. With 4.10 I couldn't do a custom XMR-Stak CPU configuration now with the Linux 4.13 kernel I can.
jr. member
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April 20, 2018, 09:58:11 AM
Try clearing the NVRAM by changing jumper position on the board. 

* Locate the 3-pin CMOS jumper (CLR CMOS) on the motherboard
* Remove the jumper plug from pins 1 and 2
* Place the jumper plug on pins 2 and 3 and wait approximately 5 seconds
* Replace the jumper plug on pins 1 and 2

Are you running both PSUs or did you remove one like I did?  Maybe try swapping PSU to the other bay or even have both PSUs installed and plugged in.

Another thing to try is resetting BIOS to defaults in the BIOS itself.

I'll do what I can to help you trouble shoot even though you won't take my phone calls!

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April 20, 2018, 09:53:54 AM
The Dell R815s that I got are running rock solid.

Hard to justify the price at this point, though, IMHO -- unless you get a sweet deal.

Well... I have to take that back a bit now.

My power flickered last night thus turning off all my hardware. Came in, turned all the Dells back on... started XMR-STAK on them all & walked off.

Noticed my pool hash-rate never returned to how it was... every one of my R815s is now ~400 H/S slower than they were before the power flickered (1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S).

I've tried re-booting and even re-compiling XMR-STAK... seems to be permanent ?!

Any ideas ?


Some servers have a bios setting for throttling in the event of a power failure. It's possible it got stuck in that state? Have you tried a full proper power shut down and restart?

I have not done a complete "hard" power off -- I will give that a shot.

Okay tried on two systems. One just a "shut down" then power back on. One with a "shut down" and unplug / replug the system. No effect on either system. Both still doing only 1600 H/S

Apparently this IS, in fact, a thing :

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1447342-dell-r820-slow-after-power-outages

So... that being said I'll have to work on them tomorrow when I have some time.

One of the responses in that thread... Seems like it'd be the fastest solution in your case.

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I did discover that if I shut the server all the way down, pull the plugs, wait 10-15 seconds, then plug it back in. After rebooting, it seems to be acting normal again. So what is it about pulling the power OR changing the performance profile that would fix whatever issue is happening?

So... I have tried on 5 systems so far to power off, unplug AC power, AND unplug the CMOS battery -- leave them unplugged long enough to clean out the system with some air. Re-assemble... and start mining. They are all STILL doing only 1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S before the power flicker.

I have now also tried this from the link :

" I have to go into the BIOS and switch the performance settings from Max Performance to something else, then back. After that, the server performs at lightning speed again. "

Tried on two systems so far -- zero effect.

So... I'm kind of stumped.
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April 20, 2018, 09:25:55 AM
The Dell R815s that I got are running rock solid.

Hard to justify the price at this point, though, IMHO -- unless you get a sweet deal.

Well... I have to take that back a bit now.

My power flickered last night thus turning off all my hardware. Came in, turned all the Dells back on... started XMR-STAK on them all & walked off.

Noticed my pool hash-rate never returned to how it was... every one of my R815s is now ~400 H/S slower than they were before the power flickered (1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S).

I've tried re-booting and even re-compiling XMR-STAK... seems to be permanent ?!

Any ideas ?


Some servers have a bios setting for throttling in the event of a power failure. It's possible it got stuck in that state? Have you tried a full proper power shut down and restart?

I have not done a complete "hard" power off -- I will give that a shot.

Okay tried on two systems. One just a "shut down" then power back on. One with a "shut down" and unplug / replug the system. No effect on either system. Both still doing only 1600 H/S

Apparently this IS, in fact, a thing :

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1447342-dell-r820-slow-after-power-outages

So... that being said I'll have to work on them tomorrow when I have some time.

One of the responses in that thread... Seems like it'd be the fastest solution in your case.

Quote
I did discover that if I shut the server all the way down, pull the plugs, wait 10-15 seconds, then plug it back in. After rebooting, it seems to be acting normal again. So what is it about pulling the power OR changing the performance profile that would fix whatever issue is happening?

So... I have tried on 5 systems so far to power off, unplug AC power, AND unplug the CMOS battery -- leave them unplugged long enough to clean out the system with some air. Re-assemble... and start mining. They are all STILL doing only 1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S before the power flicker.
jr. member
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April 19, 2018, 10:34:27 PM
Mine has the 6220s. Sounds like I need a processor upgrade...

I have a set of spare 6276s I will sell.  They will do ~950H/s.
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April 19, 2018, 08:31:29 PM
Mine has the 6220s. Sounds like I need a processor upgrade...
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April 19, 2018, 08:28:13 PM
So with Monero back up again I decided to fire up my DL385 and give it another try. Put new XMR-Stak on it, configged and fired up. Still getting 660hs. This is stock with no GPUs in it.

Has anyone out there achieved a better rate than this?

Cranking out 1050 on a pair of 6380s on a 385...
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April 19, 2018, 07:58:37 PM
So with Monero back up again I decided to fire up my DL385 and give it another try. Put new XMR-Stak on it, configged and fired up. Still getting 660hs. This is stock with no GPUs in it.

Has anyone out there achieved a better rate than this?
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April 19, 2018, 03:59:05 PM
That is a problem with the HP server series like the G7 which are a bit old so HiveOS maybe does not have the best support for them. I will also blame HP or any other old server like Dell as I have tested HiveOS with 12 RX 580 cards in ASUS B250 Pro Mining and they worked out of the box perfectly without problems with a great hashrate of 360 Mhs.

The strong Xeon processors are good to mine Bytecoin or Monero.

Actually HiveOS and the HP's work GREAT.  Currently have 2 running 9 cards each.

It's HiveOS and the Dell R815's that DOESN'T and that's just a NIC driver issue.

Guess i have to give HiveOS a second chance then Wink
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April 19, 2018, 03:54:00 PM
That is a problem with the HP server series like the G7 which are a bit old so HiveOS maybe does not have the best support for them. I will also blame HP or any other old server like Dell as I have tested HiveOS with 12 RX 580 cards in ASUS B250 Pro Mining and they worked out of the box perfectly without problems with a great hashrate of 360 Mhs.

The strong Xeon processors are good to mine Bytecoin or Monero.

Actually HiveOS and the HP's work GREAT.  Currently have 2 running 9 cards each.

It's HiveOS and the Dell R815's that DOESN'T and that's just a NIC driver issue.
legendary
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April 19, 2018, 02:18:45 PM
Under Linux, I have 6 Nvidia cards working.  Not sure what is up with the Proliant G7 series.  I have tried a DL360, DL380 and the DL580 and none of these will boot with more than 4 GPUs installed.  Windows will lock up at loading screen.

Slap a USB stick with HiveOS on it and 6 get recognized easily.

I have a ML350P G8 that has taken 6 GPUs in windows easily.  

Edit* Make that 9 1060s in one 580 in HiveOS.

I hit a wall at 9 cards on the 580 also, using SMOS. Spent countless hours getting 9 cards to work. In one way i love the HP servers, H/s on cryptonight is a bonus but as a gpu-mining platform they look good on paper but is in my experience not fun maintaining. Did anyone try to run Windows 10 on the 580 with success?

That is a problem with the HP server series like the G7 which are a bit old so HiveOS maybe does not have the best support for them. I will also blame HP or any other old server like Dell as I have tested HiveOS with 12 RX 580 cards in ASUS B250 Pro Mining and they worked out of the box perfectly without problems with a great hashrate of 360 Mhs.

The strong Xeon processors are good to mine Bytecoin or Monero.
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April 19, 2018, 02:07:35 PM
The Dell R815s that I got are running rock solid.

Hard to justify the price at this point, though, IMHO -- unless you get a sweet deal.

Well... I have to take that back a bit now.

My power flickered last night thus turning off all my hardware. Came in, turned all the Dells back on... started XMR-STAK on them all & walked off.

Noticed my pool hash-rate never returned to how it was... every one of my R815s is now ~400 H/S slower than they were before the power flickered (1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S).

I've tried re-booting and even re-compiling XMR-STAK... seems to be permanent ?!

Any ideas ?

Im really shocked you have not invested in UPS for your systems man.. i ordered 25 x of the CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD, i got them refurbished off ebay, the guy only had 25 left, so i contacted him to ask if i could buy all 25 at a better rate and he sold them to me for $88 each, but at that time was spring time sales, so i was able to get 20% using the emailed spring code i had sitting in reserves. I have one of these 1500 units on every 6 and less GPU rig i have running right now...

I was about to pull the trigger before all the coins fell off a cliff in value, hah...

I am pricing out a full set of UPS units, though, through some distributors... since I'll need 100+ of them. Gonna just have to suck it up I suppose!

Try to source them refurbished or on ebay with bad batteries. I bought 3 from ebay that were server based UPS that just needed new batteries and i picked them up off amazon for a few dollars each, i even went to my local thrift stores and picked up a handful of them for a few dollars and half of them even worked, just needed fresh batteries. The ones i got from local thrift stores i built custom lithium batteries from 18650 cells, i have been collecting thousands of them over time because i was planning to build a DIY tesla powerwall with them along with build battery packs for my Catrike bicycle that i converted to electric assist, i get them free from thrift stores, hardware stores from the recycle bin just ask the store managers, and colleges. The most i got from thrift stores because when someone donates a laptio they cant resell it, so it gets scrapped and disassembled and they pay for someone to take the batteries away.

This is some of the batteries i got last month from going around and asking politely from many locations and picking up some from locations that told me they would place them to the side for me...


Here are some cells im still slowly testing out, i bought 4 tester/chargers units a while back that allows me to test 16 cells at a time, so its only time to test them, i put them on the test and forget about them really and come back when i remember about them, write the capacity on the side of the cell and move on, i store them in bins based on the capacity so my wall cells i assemble have the highest capacity cells. I have probably close to 40,000 cells assembled in my diy powerwall to date that ive never purchased...




"I have probably close to 40,000 cells assembled in my diy powerwall to date that ive never purchased... "

Thats seriously impressive man!
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April 18, 2018, 10:14:48 PM
The Dell R815s that I got are running rock solid.

Hard to justify the price at this point, though, IMHO -- unless you get a sweet deal.

Well... I have to take that back a bit now.

My power flickered last night thus turning off all my hardware. Came in, turned all the Dells back on... started XMR-STAK on them all & walked off.

Noticed my pool hash-rate never returned to how it was... every one of my R815s is now ~400 H/S slower than they were before the power flickered (1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S).

I've tried re-booting and even re-compiling XMR-STAK... seems to be permanent ?!

Any ideas ?

Im really shocked you have not invested in UPS for your systems man.. i ordered 25 x of the CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD, i got them refurbished off ebay, the guy only had 25 left, so i contacted him to ask if i could buy all 25 at a better rate and he sold them to me for $88 each, but at that time was spring time sales, so i was able to get 20% using the emailed spring code i had sitting in reserves. I have one of these 1500 units on every 6 and less GPU rig i have running right now...

I was about to pull the trigger before all the coins fell off a cliff in value, hah...

I am pricing out a full set of UPS units, though, through some distributors... since I'll need 100+ of them. Gonna just have to suck it up I suppose!

Try to source them refurbished or on ebay with bad batteries. I bought 3 from ebay that were server based UPS that just needed new batteries and i picked them up off amazon for a few dollars each, i even went to my local thrift stores and picked up a handful of them for a few dollars and half of them even worked, just needed fresh batteries. The ones i got from local thrift stores i built custom lithium batteries from 18650 cells, i have been collecting thousands of them over time because i was planning to build a DIY tesla powerwall with them along with build battery packs for my Catrike bicycle that i converted to electric assist, i get them free from thrift stores, hardware stores from the recycle bin just ask the store managers, and colleges. The most i got from thrift stores because when someone donates a laptio they cant resell it, so it gets scrapped and disassembled and they pay for someone to take the batteries away.

This is some of the batteries i got last month from going around and asking politely from many locations and picking up some from locations that told me they would place them to the side for me...


Here are some cells im still slowly testing out, i bought 4 tester/chargers units a while back that allows me to test 16 cells at a time, so its only time to test them, i put them on the test and forget about them really and come back when i remember about them, write the capacity on the side of the cell and move on, i store them in bins based on the capacity so my wall cells i assemble have the highest capacity cells. I have probably close to 40,000 cells assembled in my diy powerwall to date that ive never purchased...


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April 18, 2018, 07:28:36 PM
The Dells seem to be exhibiting the same trait as when you leave the cover off and they throttle.

I just had two power outages and multiple flickers the last few weeks and I haven't encountered the throttling yet.  I would totally remove power from them for a minute and if that doesn't do it, pull the cmos battery w/ the power out and wait a minute.  That SHOULD do it but you'll have to reconfigure the BIOS to your liking.

I am going to build a 30kwh battery backup system.  I just want enough juice to run everything for an hour.

In regards to 4 GPUs on the 580s, I'll give Windows another shot just for luls but honestly, Hive is so superior and easy it's really not even worth it.  They've been rock solid since I've got them going.
legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
April 18, 2018, 06:07:05 PM

i just hope the temps stay managable for me, since i spent a few k redoing this system multiple times, mostly on pumps failing (sigh)... my current pump that has lasted the longest is a simple submerged utility pump rated for 100% duty cycle at 80% load i picked up off local hardware store...



i have geothermal heating/cooling in my house. uses 2000 feet (4x500 foot loops) of pex buried 5 feet down in the back yard and its connected to a 3.5 ton heat pump. system is around 6 years old

the ground loop is driven by two of these pumps in series:

https://www.pexuniverse.com/grundfos-up26-99f-circulator-pump-52722355

but mine say 230v not 120v. but thats the model UR 26 99F

they dont run 24/7 year round but in super cold weather (say like -15F at night to 15F in the day)  the system runs 24/7 for days, switching between high and low power modes.

maybe look into something like that? they look like they are continuous duty but maybe write them and see if its 24/7/365 rated?
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April 18, 2018, 06:04:07 PM
Imminent Hard Fork and Network Attack
Intense Coin experienced an attack to its blockchain on April 15, 2018. In this post we will describe the attack, the implications and our plan for resolution.

https://intensecoin.com/2018/04/16/imminent-hard-fork-and-network-attack

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What happened (simple)?

An attacker was able to achieve the majority of hashrate on the Intense Coin network and thus be responsible for all or most of the blocks being added to the chain. This is commonly described as a “51% attack”. As the attacker controlled the majority of the hashrate, they stopped allowing transactions to be included in new blocks. Most significantly, the attacker manipulated timestamps of the blocks to exploit a weakness in the difficulty calculation algorithm of the coin. This manipulation allowed the attacker to find about 8 days worth of blocks in several hours.

I know that some people here were mining this coin so I posted this.
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April 18, 2018, 02:17:59 PM
So I've got 4 GPUs going on an R815.  I started out to run 6 but HiveOS doesn't load a network driver for the R815.  Instead of scratching my head on how to figure that out, I simply threw in a pcie network card which stole a slot.  The riser I threw the network card in has two slots.  The second slot wouldn't accept a GPU.  I said screw it and settled for four at the moment.  Later on I'll see if I can get a 4 to 1 riser to work.  I have not had success with the 4 to 1's in the 580s but I have in the 360s and 380s.

USB WiFi may be an option.

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It took me four solid days to deploy a few more vegas and reconfigure all my gpu rigs which were all HP Proliant boxes.  What a royal pain but it was necessary due to the hodge podge manner in which my little army grew over the last 100 days.  

Need to come to grips with Power play tables for the vegas as they are a pain to restart when necessary.

I have given up on Power play tables and just use the Adrenalin 18.3.4 driver and Wattman with these settings for my Vega 56's:

------------------------------------------------

Core:
P6: 1397 MHz, 950 mv, Min State
P7: 1427 MHz, 1000 mv, Max State

Mem:
P3: 935 MHz Min/Max State, 900 mv

Fan: Min: 3000 RPM, Target: 4900

Temp: Max: 70, Target 60

Power Limit 0

1935 H/s Using 135 Watts

------------------------------------------------

My Vega 56's are PowerColor branded and 935 MHz was the highest I could run at. You may be able to squeeze out the extra 10 MHz and run at 945 MHz

I am using Cast_XMR as I have found that it produces very high stable Hashes. It is also very well maintained. A new version was just released yesterday.

http://www.gandalph3000.com
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April 18, 2018, 01:42:51 PM
The Dell R815s that I got are running rock solid.

Hard to justify the price at this point, though, IMHO -- unless you get a sweet deal.

Well... I have to take that back a bit now.

My power flickered last night thus turning off all my hardware. Came in, turned all the Dells back on... started XMR-STAK on them all & walked off.

Noticed my pool hash-rate never returned to how it was... every one of my R815s is now ~400 H/S slower than they were before the power flickered (1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S).

I've tried re-booting and even re-compiling XMR-STAK... seems to be permanent ?!

Any ideas ?

Im really shocked you have not invested in UPS for your systems man.. i ordered 25 x of the CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD, i got them refurbished off ebay, the guy only had 25 left, so i contacted him to ask if i could buy all 25 at a better rate and he sold them to me for $88 each, but at that time was spring time sales, so i was able to get 20% using the emailed spring code i had sitting in reserves. I have one of these 1500 units on every 6 and less GPU rig i have running right now...

I was about to pull the trigger before all the coins fell off a cliff in value, hah...

I am pricing out a full set of UPS units, though, through some distributors... since I'll need 100+ of them. Gonna just have to suck it up I suppose!

Check ebay for UPS that would match your input power. You might be able to get a UPS large enough to place it before your distribution panel. I've seen them floating around in the 50kW->100kW range. You also don't really need a UPS, just the auto voltage regulator that most UPS have built in. With the AVR it should keep voltage constant until there is no more power and go to 0 completely preventing over voltage and under voltage situations.


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April 18, 2018, 01:41:13 PM
The Dell R815s that I got are running rock solid.

Hard to justify the price at this point, though, IMHO -- unless you get a sweet deal.

Well... I have to take that back a bit now.

My power flickered last night thus turning off all my hardware. Came in, turned all the Dells back on... started XMR-STAK on them all & walked off.

Noticed my pool hash-rate never returned to how it was... every one of my R815s is now ~400 H/S slower than they were before the power flickered (1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S).

I've tried re-booting and even re-compiling XMR-STAK... seems to be permanent ?!

Any ideas ?


Some servers have a bios setting for throttling in the event of a power failure. It's possible it got stuck in that state? Have you tried a full proper power shut down and restart?

I have not done a complete "hard" power off -- I will give that a shot.

Okay tried on two systems. One just a "shut down" then power back on. One with a "shut down" and unplug / replug the system. No effect on either system. Both still doing only 1600 H/S

Apparently this IS, in fact, a thing :

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1447342-dell-r820-slow-after-power-outages

So... that being said I'll have to work on them tomorrow when I have some time.

One of the responses in that thread... Seems like it'd be the fastest solution in your case.

Quote
I did discover that if I shut the server all the way down, pull the plugs, wait 10-15 seconds, then plug it back in. After rebooting, it seems to be acting normal again. So what is it about pulling the power OR changing the performance profile that would fix whatever issue is happening?

hero member
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April 18, 2018, 01:35:16 PM
The Dell R815s that I got are running rock solid.

Hard to justify the price at this point, though, IMHO -- unless you get a sweet deal.

Well... I have to take that back a bit now.

My power flickered last night thus turning off all my hardware. Came in, turned all the Dells back on... started XMR-STAK on them all & walked off.

Noticed my pool hash-rate never returned to how it was... every one of my R815s is now ~400 H/S slower than they were before the power flickered (1600 H/S vs. 2000 H/S).

I've tried re-booting and even re-compiling XMR-STAK... seems to be permanent ?!

Any ideas ?

Im really shocked you have not invested in UPS for your systems man.. i ordered 25 x of the CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD, i got them refurbished off ebay, the guy only had 25 left, so i contacted him to ask if i could buy all 25 at a better rate and he sold them to me for $88 each, but at that time was spring time sales, so i was able to get 20% using the emailed spring code i had sitting in reserves. I have one of these 1500 units on every 6 and less GPU rig i have running right now...

I was about to pull the trigger before all the coins fell off a cliff in value, hah...

I am pricing out a full set of UPS units, though, through some distributors... since I'll need 100+ of them. Gonna just have to suck it up I suppose!
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