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December 21, 2018, 04:46:17 PM
#72
Opinions on Recent Market Upswing

Bull Run




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Dead Cat Bouncing




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Bitcoin had recover for just 2 days i guess.Though i don't usually look at the coinmarket capitalization recently that was $3200 and suddenly became $3800 as of this moment.I think theres nothing impossible in cryptocurrency most specifically  bitcoin.A good sign for its recovery,maybe bull run was about to start.
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December 21, 2018, 03:37:28 PM
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The idea was that a stock had become valueless for whatever reason. It was dead and the business was likely to become insolvent. However as the price fell to almost nothing it suddenly received new buying interest because it was so cheap that it was now a good long-shot bet. This inflow of cash caused the already dead cat to go up a bit before a final collapse.

That's right and I also understood a dead cat bounce as a short bull correction after the first selloff. The price almost manages to come back to the top and then goes back down much slower. It can be seen in December 2013 and January 2018 when Bitcoin lost 45% of value and retraced back to only a 10% loss from the top.

This event that we're watching now is nothing but a small correction. 15% moves in Bitcoin are happening many times each year.
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December 21, 2018, 03:18:10 PM
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A "dead cat ounce" can only be determined after a STOCK has collapsed to zero.  Cats don't bounce back to life. It is a dip or correction or fall, but not a dead cat bounce.

That's not the conventional definition. A "dead cat bounce" just means a temporary recovery before a downtrend continues. I'm not sure what you call a stock that's collapsed to zero. The closest thing I can think of is a speculative bubble asset, like with tulip mania. "Dead cat bounce" doesn't imply that though.

Hmm. That's not how I learned it as a stock trader. The idea was that a stock had become valueless for whatever reason. It was dead and the business was likely to become insolvent. However as the price fell to almost nothing it suddenly received new buying interest because it was so cheap that it was now a good long-shot bet. This inflow of cash caused the already dead cat to go up a bit before a final collapse.
A lot of people confuse stock trading with bitcoin trading. But these are very different assets. Stocks NEED to make money. The money keeps a business going and it will totally fail without capitol. Bitcoin does not need your money and works fine if the price is $0.01
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December 21, 2018, 02:39:08 PM
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Unfortunately, Dead Cat Bounce seems more likely when we look at this point. But the crypto money market has always tended to move unexpectedly. I hope we see the Bull Run.
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December 21, 2018, 02:34:43 PM
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Well I hope that it is the start of the bull run ,
There are so many people who are saying that we would have a bull run before this year ends and I hope this is the start.
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December 21, 2018, 02:31:00 PM
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Easy. Dead cat bounce. Classic. No question.

totally not.not classic.not at all
dead cat bounce is when some asset dropped value almost to nothing
and then shows some signs of life , twitching, bitcoin is far from being done
even to consider it is ridiculous- just compare the 2018 and 2017 price levels
steady growth, no technical difficulties or code problems either
as for the bottom, it does look like 3100 ish was it, but it doesn't mean that the market cannot reverse now
and we are dominated by the bulls, not at all
but it does seem like the new ASICs and difficulty adjustments will keep the price stable 3400-4500$ corridor
again, if some holder decides to sell several millions worth of coins it could trigger another panic sell
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December 21, 2018, 01:59:31 PM
#66
If Bitcoin will hit the 4,500 mark before Christmas this is indeed a bull run we are waiting for.
But if the BTC value goes back to 3,800 USD and we are caught in trap again and we should wait for the 2019 kindness to cryptocurrency.
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December 21, 2018, 01:49:29 PM
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Coins back in the red,

Looks like the cat is headed back to earth.
and our bulls turn out to be pussies.    Wink



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December 21, 2018, 12:58:41 PM
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The shitcoins btc cash and sv are way up compared to the bitcoin bounce - so what do we take from that?

aren't they still engaged in their war of attrition? it looks like bitmain and the craig wright camp are pumping more money in. both sides probably recognized the market would be receptive to a pump after bitcoin recovered. i'm noticing a lot of alt/BTC charts are looking bottom-ish for the same reason.
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December 21, 2018, 12:29:41 PM
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Who cares if this is a dead cat bounce anyway if you are long? Back in 2014 as in 2018, the whole year was filled with dead cat bounces. Anyone lucky enough to be fooled by one or more and holding till today is doing just fine.

In my opinion panic sellers do care, if they assume it's a dead cat they'll once again rush to sell and such short sells shall effect the market. It seems to me op has not observed well, cause this short term rally may lead the start of a bull run, all the factors point towards it. I have said it before I'll say it again these are affordable levels to buy, we will very soon hear of the approval of Bakkt and Nasdaq Bitcoins futures is already announced. Hence going ahead in 2019, we shall see more upside movements from current levels.
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December 21, 2018, 12:25:30 PM
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Who cares if this is a dead cat bounce anyway if you are long? Back in 2014 as in 2018, the whole year was filled with dead cat bounces. Anyone lucky enough to be fooled by one or more and holding till today is doing just fine.

Yeah it always happen in a market as volatile as this. Though i'd say what's happening right now is neither a desd cat bounce or a bull run. I wouldn't give much fuss about this since it's not that significant yet. Not a month ago this current value would already cause panic.
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December 21, 2018, 12:09:27 PM
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Who cares if this is a dead cat bounce anyway if you are long? Back in 2014 as in 2018, the whole year was filled with dead cat bounces. Anyone lucky enough to be fooled by one or more and holding till today is doing just fine.
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December 21, 2018, 11:54:55 AM
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Opinions on Recent Market Upswing

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I think it is bull run and not the other way.  When bitcoin when down below $3300 last week Friday many of us were saying that bitcoin will not rise to $4000 before end of this year but we can see that this week a lone bitcoin has move significantly and adding almost $800 in just a week is very significant.  Traders that invested last week Friday are now in good profits because of the current bullish trend.  I believe that if we actually want to makes money in 2019 , we should invest now because though we would be having some corrections along the way I think it will be more of bullish than bearish.
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December 21, 2018, 11:08:42 AM
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Bull Run or Dead Cat Bouncing ?

What is happening now is a correction. Bitcoin price was decreasing sharply for whole month. So it was expected sooner or latter to correct. If we reached bottom few days ago that is another story.
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December 21, 2018, 10:51:27 AM
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Dead cat bouncing, no doubt.


I would say neither.
This small increase still isn't the sign of bull run, this is too early to say. But that doesn't mean Bitcoin is dead or that will die.
Anyway, current small growth is encouraging trend but it remains to see if this will last and how far this will take us because there is still possibility for price to bounce back again. To my opinion nothing big will happen before the next year so we have to stay patient.
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December 20, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
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Dead cat bouncing, no doubt.
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December 20, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
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Bull run started I think and it is still good to us because in the year 2019 only we need is a little push to other investor to go back again and to those who are willing to invest to the bitcoin. Next year we expect the more and better price than today.
We hope so but we can't neglect also that dumps happen along the way. The uptrend prices we saw is somewhat an encouraging to the investors and bring back their trust. Adding more capital will give huge help in the market and to help its recovery. We just give a weeks or a month to see if this trend will continue.
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December 20, 2018, 07:15:27 PM
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The shitcoins btc cash and sv are way up compared to the bitcoin bounce - so what do we take from that?
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December 20, 2018, 07:06:12 PM
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personally i use the mining cost/market dynamic numbers to help find the bottomline support which has been a good guide for years of knowing the bottom.

i assume it doesn't work too well since miners follow price. cheaper coins = lower profitability = unprofitable miners shut down. more profitable miners don't necessarily take their place either---that's why we just had 3 consecutive downward difficulty retargets totalling 32% of the hashrate.

a couple months ago, you were saying $6000 was the bottom because of mining costs!
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December 20, 2018, 06:45:21 PM
#53
People thinking this is the start of a bull run to $100k are funny. Just a couple weeks ago we had stable $6ks for months, and you are wondering what a literal overnight free fall to $3ks followed by a move to $4k is. C'mon, we will see $2ks or less before the next bull starts (if it starts).
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