Bull run / wishful think ? - page 6.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

Better not to be wishful because it will just stress you out.Just compare on whats last year hopes on the last quarter of 2018
which majority of people do think that the 2017 bull run would happen again on 2018 but we have seen that it isnt the case.
Lots of hopes being crushed but people doesnt still give up on thinking that there would be an another run and presuming on this year
will be included but same as yours i dont already have that wishful thinking.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

no, we are not talking about the end of the year. bull run comes because of what will happen next year. ethereum 2.0 and halving, these two things will trigger Bullrun. Big investors will definitely buy because they know they will rise.

Maybe this is different from what you imagine, but know this bullrun only for a few coins. so there is no other altcoin season, only for bitcoin and ethereum.

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A sign could be different for every person because the result varies and based on their research, as for me the sign to see the market has turned better is by looking at flow of money.
if we are hearing about a fresh money coming in into the market, that might be the time for cryptocurrency to turn better from its current situation.
and the bull run itself will happen after the market making a continued upward movement once the market turned better.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

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or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

Thing i see people speculating is the market cycle. Bull run will happen based on the previous behavior if the volatility, but people are just debating over in what phase we are on that market cycle, and they have been doing that since the ath now. I am using btc dominance as my signal as it really low near the top and i am assuming it's so high because we are near the bottom.

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Quote from: SamboNZ on October 17, 2019, 07:43:05 PM

Yeah, very wishful thinking when Bakkt has barely made any big volumes and I dont think that the bullrun might even happen very soon, It could possibly take another 3-4 years before it gets traction because regulations and restrictions are still being faced ATM.

The next trend will arrive very soon, i have seen the result of BAKKT and it brings us to the bottom place of bitcoin price. The bullrun can happen anytime, what is really needed by crypto to see bitcoin to get the next FOMO from the bitcoin halving and that's enough to bring bitcoin to the top or at least prevent the next drop that will be made by the trend itself.
It doesn't even need to take other years.

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In 2017 there were so many things promoting crypto. For instance ICOs alone brought so many people around the game. For the next bull run, we certainly need something to trigger it. Adoption is really getting slow, institutions are not moving in as we expected. Do the only thing to do is be optimistic that it will certainly, maybe sooner or later.

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The investor or the big whales buy bitcoin when the price is down deeper. They will not think twice about buying bitcoin because they believe that bitcoin prices will increase higher. So if they see bitcoin price can down deeper, they will place a large amount of money to buy bitcoin. They also believe bitcoin will reach the highest price, no matter if they need to wait for a long time. But they will sell some of bitcoin to make money first and save the rest of bitcoin for another day. The bull run will come, and that is the best time for them to sell all of bitcoin they have to make money.

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I am inclined to believe that the bullish rally this year has already been, this is an increase in the value of Bitcoin from 3K dollars to almost 15K. There Are less than three months until the end of the year and Bitcoin can not consolidate above 8500 dollars. Sentiment is mostly pessimistic and I think the price could fall by 2020.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

Bull runs do tend to happen around that time, it is a psychological effect that the end of the year has. The whales expect it, which is why they often make their move beforehand, thus starting the bull run. Psychology plays a big part in investing, which impacts the prices.

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Then what we call last 2017 bull run? A wishful think that happened? I think it's not. Investors and Traders have their indicators that can decide them when to buy or sell like economic issues and new in cryptos here. I know bullrun will happen again soon, it may take a longer time since many regulation and scam or failed projects ruined it's name that getting new investors are too hard to do now. But soon it can be resolve that can cause another bull run.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

well, i dont believe that . i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment. just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ? or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

Wishful thinking or not, I believe that the perceived bull run in 2020 can be a self-fulfilling prophecy as the market sentiment is agreeing with this projection. You see, market sentiment can be the force that can push any coin up or down. As far as Bitcoin is concerned, it would be easy to conclude that a growing number of people are looking at 2020 as the year when Bitcoin can go "to the moon" experiencing some good jump. We actually need this break otherwise there can be a wide negative reaction to Bitcoin. As to whales, it is within their own right as the owners of those Bitcoin to move, to sell, to buy more if they want to.

In other words, we don't have any business whatsoever trying to intervene and influence to do the opposite of what they think good for them. How would you feel if there will other people telling you on what to do, when to do things and trying to make you explain why you are doing it? That would be disgusting, in my opinion. Don't' worry though, I am not yet a whale and I am just a small shrimp in the water pond left by the rising tide.

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Quote from: inanilujimi on October 17, 2019, 09:30:26 PM

Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

bull run comes like the wind we don't know where and when it happened.
but that does not mean just wishful thinking.
I know there are still many whales asleep and we are just waiting for him to wake up from his sleep.

Bull run will come at anytime so it can't be predictable, But whales are never sleep in crypto market. Because sudden pump and dump will happen at anytime so they are all active all the time. Once it will growing automatically market will jump and still all are invest in crypto may be few whales and big investors are active in market.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 07:18:18 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on October 17, 2019, 04:29:45 PM

Mass selling usually happens so you should expect that it will come. About the year end bull run, I think that impression already built because of the 2017 bull run. It came to pass before the end of the year so basically the pattern and idea started with that.

The last bull run it could be the last time that we've saw bitcoin hit $13,000 but afterwards it moved down. It's okay to be wishful about the bull run but it won't change the result if it will come again or not.

well, i agree with that , since after it, no more bull run comes.

It's true and the price plunged down to $8,000 and there's a threat that it can go lower again up to $5,000. But, I'm not worrying at all because the next bull run has to get ready and it needs to step down a bit to open a new high.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 17, 2019, 11:02:36 PM

Bull run will eventually happened, however, we need to have some kind of catalyst, that so far we haven't seen or heard as of yet. But when it come though, no one can really stop it from happening just like we have seen in 2017.

I have also that on my mind that it can be the same as 2017 or more than that. Base on the movement that it's showing today, it's stabilizing and this pattern is likely the same like it was going out of $3k level.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

bull run comes like the wind we don't know where and when it happened.
but that does not mean just wishful thinking.
I know there are still many whales asleep and we are just waiting for him to wake up from his sleep.

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Bull run will eventually happened, however, we need to have some kind of catalyst, that so far we haven't seen or heard as of yet. But when it come though, no one can really stop it from happening just like we have seen in 2017.

Maybe the only catalyst is the bitcoin halving in 2020, but it is like months from now. So if I'm in your shoes, just keep holding and wait till your wishful thinking become a reality. And I'm sure that you are not the only one who's dreaming like that, every one does.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

I personally think that the alt market will continue to recovery from losses earlier on within the year.

However, the crypto market overall I'm not as long on. I think that due to how hard Bakkt flopped and how there is extremely strong resistance at around the $10k level, there is a lack of bullish momentum for at least until the end of this year for total market cap to increase drastically.

Individual alts can still rally relative to BTC, like what DOGE is doing right now. But in terms of fiat returns, I doubt that there will be anything major.

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Yeah, very wishful thinking when Bakkt has barely made any big volumes and I dont think that the bullrun might even happen very soon, It could possibly take another 3-4 years before it gets traction because regulations and restrictions are still being faced ATM.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?

Investors are smart and intelligent, but I would agree that there are also irrational buyers here in crypto, specially newbies who thought that they can get rich very quickly.

Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

I wouldn't say that this is a wishful thinking, what can you say when the price suddenly shoots up to $20,000 in 2017? Eventually we will get there and even more, just a matter of time. Everything here is timing, market works in cycle so you have to wait for it to happen at the right moment and see new all time high again for the altcoin market.

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Quote from: sunsilk on October 17, 2019, 04:29:45 PM

Mass selling usually happens so you should expect that it will come. About the year end bull run, I think that impression already built because of the 2017 bull run. It came to pass before the end of the year so basically the pattern and idea started with that.

The last bull run it could be the last time that we've saw bitcoin hit $13,000 but afterwards it moved down. It's okay to be wishful about the bull run but it won't change the result if it will come again or not.

well, i agree with that , since after it, no more bull run comes.

Quote from: Bitcoinjheta on October 17, 2019, 05:02:33 PM

Nobody knows when it will happen again the bull run only good news and bad news we can gathered a good basis of mass selling and buying with regards in tracking of charts daily. This is a common strategy used by most successful holders and investors before it happen the bull run.

yes, that why i asking, because i cant imagine that came suddenly, at least some good news can be,hmm.. u know like a special signal,before that really came.
so the point, its came from speculation and prediction.

Quote from: cryptonx on October 17, 2019, 06:10:44 PM

remember, history repeat itself my friend
maybe you think this is just no more than wishfull think
but, i'm sure next year after bitcoin halving, a huge demands will coming to crypto world again mate, and will push the price of bitcoin and other good alts increase
just like the past mate

well, so it's totally because speculation and prediction ,
based on previous btc halving it can be a reference for making speculations and predictions.
but i dont think it will be make some good affect to alts, i just think,it make btc more dominant on market.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 17, 2019, 01:45:42 PM

well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

remember, history repeat itself my friend
maybe you think this is just no more than wishfull think
but, i'm sure next year after bitcoin halving, a huge demands will coming to crypto world again mate, and will push the price of bitcoin and other good alts increase
just like the past mate

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