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July 25, 2020, 02:52:27 PM
#93
Business  / private sector is dead

As a freelancer in 2 months i got 4 clients only ... in my area 4 clients it's like your biz is dead... no matter how much you try to do marketing/advertising it just does not work ...
I look at other peoples businesses same situation ...

High Tech,Web Development,Web design ,Mobile Development ,Marketing,Blockchain development,Dapps,Web Hosting is dead from what i see


I got friends taxi drivers same situation they are just sitting in the taxi and some day zero clients ,barber shops the same they are sitting around all day smoking ... anything that seems a "luxury good" people don't touch this days.

The only thing people are buying is basic necessities ... oh also food and cigarette prices went up again ...

It's a f nightmare ...those that have billions of USD under the mattress better start investing soon ,or that money will be good only as toilet paper ...

Economy i love it ...
People lost their jobs due to pandemic and they were forced to be inside their houses for very long time in some countries in that time people only spend their money to buy foods and groceries if they have any money left to spend.All other business and especially advertisement industry will take years to recovered from this so yes the economy is dead so it will be your decision whether you are going to stay like thins and blame other or go and get a job where you actually getting paid.
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July 25, 2020, 10:52:43 AM
#92
It is not totally dead. Business and private sectors are just ordered to be close for a while just to make necessary measures for the sake of the safety of the people not to create a big crowd most specially at big malls and public places so that the spread of the virus will be lessen or taken into control. The suggestion of the temporary closure has been done to make a way for the disinfection of the business establishments and to follow the rules and regulations of the government as well as the health care officials because in a big place where people work and get together can have a big potential to acquire virus.

With such safety measures, the businesses and private sectors are not tend to be dead just close. But after a couple of months, they are back again and alive to get operational but still on a prior notice to exhibit health protocols to assure the safety of everyone. Maybe there are businesses that from temporary closure turns out to be permanent closure because of some reasons. Most of those are small time businesses but for big businesses, it is quite impossible for those to die easily what more with the private sectors. The effect of the pandemic is really tragic not just on life but as well with the business but good thing business establishments are open now again even with minimal working capacity.
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July 25, 2020, 10:45:20 AM
#91
The Pandemic COVID-19 did damage everything, all businesses were destroyed. Even large companies experience substantial losses,
and very many home industries bankrupt. So it's no wonder the unemployment rate continues to grow, if we want to survive in an
economic crisis like now, it's better to choose a business that sells basic necessities. Because it has been proven for now many
people prioritize buying daily necessities.
The pandemic does not destroy everything, it's just that it changes the era of conditions in society that disrupt normal activities. Everyone in the world is tested with disasters will see the point of view going forward. When this continues, everyone must think, for things that survive the need for a day I hope everyone has an anticipated view of this because we don't know how long it will last. This crisis will continue before this pandemic disappears. It's really depressing.?
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July 25, 2020, 10:11:58 AM
#90
I remember now ...a Indian guy said to me : If i make 150 usd per month from "web design" i can provide for my hole family ...well in Europe with 150 usd you can't even go s...t sort of speaking ...

I see our traitors bringing cheap labor from Asia ... well anything does traitors are making i am never ever going to buy ...

What Asians are doing it's called dirty competition .... so in order to stop this madness i will vote nationalist parties from now on each time ... TARIFFS ,TARIFFS and more TARRIFS on Asian products /  high taxes on non EU labor and high taxes on anything people buy outside EU this is the solution

Be careful what you wish for there. High tariffs will surely increase domestic prices due to the higher production costs. That will reduce your purchasing power as a consumer. It will also reinforce barriers to market entry for startups since business investment will become more costly.

There's no denying that globalization has fucked over workers in many ways. I'm just not sure tariffs are the answer.

Countries are like parallel universes ...

In country A a cheap coffee costs 1.5 euros ...

In country B a cheap coffee costs 0.05 euros ...

Sure the avg Joe from country A will buy cheap coffee from a person that lives in country B ... he keeps more money in his pocket .Sounds great until he realizes he f'd up.


The avg Joe does not realize that his destroying his job , country , family etc by doing biz with country B  ....he is destroying the businesses from country A and the suppliers etc ...he makes his country more weak...

You should do biz with countries on your same level ... or if you buy something from country B make sure you don't F up your life...



 

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July 25, 2020, 09:10:08 AM
#89
I remember now ...a Indian guy said to me : If i make 150 usd per month from "web design" i can provide for my hole family ...well in Europe with 150 usd you can't even go s...t sort of speaking ...

I see our traitors bringing cheap labor from Asia ... well anything does traitors are making i am never ever going to buy ...

What Asians are doing it's called dirty competition .... so in order to stop this madness i will vote nationalist parties from now on each time ... TARIFFS ,TARIFFS and more TARRIFS on Asian products /  high taxes on non EU labor and high taxes on anything people buy outside EU this is the solution

Be careful what you wish for there. High tariffs will surely increase domestic prices due to the higher production costs. That will reduce your purchasing power as a consumer. It will also reinforce barriers to market entry for startups since business investment will become more costly.

There's no denying that globalization has fucked over workers in many ways. I'm just not sure tariffs are the answer.
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July 25, 2020, 08:55:38 AM
#88
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everything is dead we will all die
You are Such a low skill kind of freelancer and business participant if you do not know such a rule as "waiting is better than losing". All now prefer to wait for the first calls of the economic growth and not going to push ahead bringing additional losses. If you don't understand that, I'm sorry. Don't start a panic in a place where they are already doing a great job without you.

it's not about low quality work... it's about where is the demand ? ...

Before i started freelancing again i was a lead developer  in a company , i created a bitcoin trading platform in php and after the backend for a mobile trading & loans platform for eth and eth tokens , nothing to do with skills ...

Here is the problem in freelancing... Indians took over the market with shit prices ... Now you the client will go to a indian do to fact he has lower prices then europeans or americans ... your going to get your project done ... but you will pay shit price and you will get shit quality ... after you will come to skilled european / american freelancers like me and ask us to fix your project ... we give you the real price and you start telling us that you know freelancers that charge cheaper ...

Now we the "low skilled" european/americans  freelancers tell you this : Go F yourself and your project ... if you want quality pay quality ,go  to your indians to fix it ...

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If you think that I said a stupid thing-then you do not really understand what I wanted to say, you need to be able to wait and catch the moment
I know a lot of people who complain about the Hindus saying they have taken up the entire web niche and do not give a way to others - but even more I know people who do not feel this. And you know why? Because those who complain about the Hindus are not very far from them in terms of the quality of their work and their code. Everyone who has at least once encountered the "legendary cheap Hindus" knows that it is better to pay an extra $ 10 / hour than then redo all their shit code. Think about it at your leisure, colleague. And good luck with your job!

This has nothing to do with quality .... it's about fair prices

In Europe living costs are 800-1000 euros / month minimum
In USA i think it costs even more

So how in the hell do western people expect to compete with asian prices when living costs in Asia are lower like 50-100 usd / month ...? If i copy someones work here i go to prison ,if a indian copies someones work nothing happens to him ...

I remember now ...a Indian guy said to me : If i make 150 usd per month from "web design" i can provide for my hole family ...well in Europe with 150 usd you can't even go s...t sort of speaking ...

I see our traitors bringing cheap labor from Asia ... well anything does traitors are making i am never ever going to buy ...

What Asians are doing it's called dirty competition .... so in order to stop this madness i will vote nationalist parties from now on each time ... TARIFFS ,TARIFFS and more TARRIFS on Asian products /  high taxes on non EU labor and high taxes on anything people buy outside EU this is the solution


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July 25, 2020, 08:17:52 AM
#87
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everything is dead we will all die
You are Such a low skill kind of freelancer and business participant if you do not know such a rule as "waiting is better than losing". All now prefer to wait for the first calls of the economic growth and not going to push ahead bringing additional losses. If you don't understand that, I'm sorry. Don't start a panic in a place where they are already doing a great job without you.

it's not about low quality work... it's about where is the demand ? ...

Before i started freelancing again i was a lead developer  in a company , i created a bitcoin trading platform in php and after the backend for a mobile trading & loans platform for eth and eth tokens , nothing to do with skills ...

Here is the problem in freelancing... Indians took over the market with shit prices ... Now you the client will go to a indian do to fact he has lower prices then europeans or americans ... your going to get your project done ... but you will pay shit price and you will get shit quality ... after you will come to skilled european / american freelancers like me and ask us to fix your project ... we give you the real price and you start telling us that you know freelancers that charge cheaper ...

Now we the "low skilled" european/americans  freelancers tell you this : Go F yourself and your project ... if you want quality pay quality ,go  to your indians to fix it ...

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Back in 2010-2015 i built over 300 websites and around 100-150 logos  and other graphic design projects ( satisfied custumers ) some of them you will see them in my old portfolio: https://www.coroflot.com/spy100/My-Portfolio
In 2015 i started working for a company as web developer then in 2018 i was promoted to lead developer until march 2020,i quit my job do to fact ceo wanted to cut salary to 33% out of 100% (excuse coronavirus) ...download stib p2p app to see eth platform
From march 2020 - present date i started freelancing again while i am looking for a job : 2020 portfolio you can see here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kjkjkj-5243944
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If you think that I said a stupid thing-then you do not really understand what I wanted to say, you need to be able to wait and catch the moment
I know a lot of people who complain about the Hindus saying they have taken up the entire web niche and do not give a way to others - but even more I know people who do not feel this. And you know why? Because those who complain about the Hindus are not very far from them in terms of the quality of their work and their code. Everyone who has at least once encountered the "legendary cheap Hindus" knows that it is better to pay an extra $ 10 / hour than then redo all their shit code. Think about it at your leisure, colleague. And good luck with your job!
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July 24, 2020, 07:41:18 PM
#86
The Pandemic COVID-19 did damage everything, all businesses were destroyed. Even large companies experience substantial losses,
and very many home industries bankrupt. So it's no wonder the unemployment rate continues to grow, if we want to survive in an
economic crisis like now, it's better to choose a business that sells basic necessities. Because it has been proven for now many
people prioritize buying daily necessities.
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July 24, 2020, 07:31:58 PM
#85
Business and private sector are not actually dead. They were just down for a while in accordance to the implementing community quarantine and health care guidelines to temporarily close down the business establishments to prevent the further spread of the virus that can be potentially transferred in a crowded place like work place that is why they are down for a while to give way on the planning on how to come up into the best way possible that workers can get back to work even at time of pandemic. Good thing that after a couple of months being closed, many businesses are now back to operation following the health guidelines and protocols being mandated by the healthcare professionals as well as the government to prevent the further infection brought by the virus.

But sadly, there were small businesses that turns out to close from temporary to permanent manner because owners cannot already afford to give its workers salary since they were also affected by the effect of pandemic bringing them to a financial crisis. But with regards to large businesses and corporation, they are still working and back in operation with minimal working capacity to still exhibit the social distancing required by the WHO and the government so that workers can now get back into their jobs while taking care of themselves not to get infected by the virus.
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July 24, 2020, 01:50:59 PM
#84
Some might be dead others are struggling to survive a very tight economy. The countries that can operate normally are probably those who are less affected. People loses jobs no income, abnormal businesses operations health sectors continuously counting infected people. what could we expect expect?
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July 24, 2020, 01:14:14 PM
#83
If you were referring to big businesses, they were actually not dead and it is somehow impossible to just happen that instant because owners of big businesses are really that rich people already. 

If you were referring to small businesses, well I think possibly some or most of them are dead due to the reason that owners did not come up on earning anything during quarantine and they were the ones that is directly affected on the temporary closing that turns out to be permanent because of the quarantine.

small and big business are in the same situation now so why call small business dead ? just because they earn small   ?  but they also know how to save and for sure they have a savings now that help them sustain thier livin

Small and big businesses are in the same situation, as we all are

However, it would be a mistake to equal them. Big businesses are big because they have many product lines, and their production capacities are often located in different places, sometimes in different countries or even parts of the world. If something goes wrong with one product or one place, they can always relocate and close that product. For small business, it is more often than not the end of the game. I'm actually curious why people would ever say that big businesses are as vulnerable as small ones
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July 24, 2020, 11:31:00 AM
#82
It is sad to hear your story... But I think there should be something you can do to earn some extra bucks for living, right? This pandemic really affects our current world and it changes our life significantly.

It is not that easy to find another job nowadays, most of the businesses are also struggling. But it is much more effective if someone will make his own business just for him to have an enough budget for his necessities during quarantine. You can't please someone to hire you that easy, you also need to do extra effort and consistency.

We had no choice but to deal with this crisis, that's why it feels like it is a survival of the fittest. You also need to follow those protocols to while working and dealing with outside environment for you to prevent those diseases to infect you.
business solutions that are safe are online businesses at home. It all depends we all look at the angle that occurs. even though we remain at home but produce. in the current era in the era of many people open business opportunities with home-based business and online transactions. In order to avoid the spread of corona is widespread. This business is run not just adults, teenagers also participate in online business at home. As long as we have the capital to run a business that will be developed...?
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July 24, 2020, 06:07:29 AM
#81
The life of businesses depend on the government's ability to manage their business sectors.

Majorities are relying with how the government will rule out and manage this sectors.

If they do not know what to do with all the problems at hand then they will surely have a problem.

Correct, the sectors are being affected much by problem and help coming from the
government is really in need.

If the government knows how to control the pandemic from spreading then that means that they can open businesses easily because they addressed the problem of atleast alleviating the chances of viral contraction.

If, that's the very important factor right now, how the government deal with strategic
to handle this virus and how they will
focus in order to survive and let the economy to still to move even the virus is still
existing.


This is just a matter of government competence in my opinion because look at New Zealand.

It's more on how they planned ahead of time and anticipate each movements,
the reliable the government the better economy.
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July 24, 2020, 04:07:27 AM
#80
The private sector, including business and commerce is not dying because the country's economy is being disrupted and everything is shutting down. They are closing down their companies due to lack of necessary funds, which is causing many people to become unemployed. Unable to pay workers due to non-import and export the situation is getting worse day by day due to the lack of proper action by the government commodity prices are rising if the government takes the right steps these will never be possible.


I noticed that most of the time funds are actually there but people don't give any priority anymore and postpone a few months. Same for the layoffs, business is not all bad yet and doesn't require such drastic measures. But the companies still layoff a large portion of their employee. I believe its more about the outlook of the future than the actual current state. As long as we have these high corona numbers and there is no normalisation in sight, companies will be reluctant to hire and invest again. Which kind of makes everything worse.
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July 23, 2020, 11:21:38 PM
#79
The life of businesses depend on the government's ability to manage their business sectors. If they do not know what to do with all the problems at hand then they will surely have a problem. If the government knows how to control the pandemic from spreading then that means that they can open businesses easily because they addressed the problem of atleast alleviating the chances of viral contraction. This is just a matter of government competence in my opinion because look at New Zealand.
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July 23, 2020, 12:06:08 PM
#78
Though the economy is slowly recovering because of the less restriction for business and establishments, there are businesses (e.g restaurants and bars) who chose to permanently close due to losses of not getting profit anymore because of the pandemic. Lack of customers are the reason, as I can see here the most affected are the drivers of public transportation since there's a limit for passengers which means less income.
Choosing to permanently shut down hotels might be a decision they had to make out of desperation or maybe they have loans on the hotel itself which is not possible to manage and they have to close it.

But if only they could have managed a little longer, the conditions are now getting back to healthy once again and very soon the market would be back and there might be even more movement and demand since people are frustrated being locked into their house and would rush to hotels, malls, etc once they see there is no fear and restrictions being applied.
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July 23, 2020, 11:43:58 AM
#77
Business  / private sector is dead

As a freelancer in 2 months i got 4 clients only ... in my area 4 clients it's like your biz is dead... no matter how much you try to do marketing/advertising it just does not work ...
I look at other peoples businesses same situation ...
This is a complex problem. Naturally, if the freelance experienced a little order. This is basically because the interests of the community are more focused on primary needs. Your work is good because it is a service. but the customer you have helped has not been able to get the expected profit. So that makes your orders little.
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July 23, 2020, 10:37:11 AM
#76
Depends on where you live. Or maybe dead is an extreme word. Things were pretty difficult for medium scale businesses in the beginning though, but it seems to have returned to normal where I live after reasonable amount of business/social activities resumed. I guess cities and big towns are mostly affected where lockdown are still in place around the world?
I agree with the fact that every country differs and while some have been able to restore normality or close to that but there are still countries that are suffering and I cannot deny the fact that the private sector is really dead right now because there are no jobs and the ones who are holding onto their jobs are lucky or just hardworking because it's not easy to cling on your job in such times with the payroll being cut and the work hours being increased in general.

As an online freelancer and part time worker I know it is not easy to get the same amount of projects as it was earlier because really no one wants to invest in any project and hence there is a low right now in the market in terms of investment, jobs and new projects.
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July 23, 2020, 05:46:56 AM
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Depends on where you live. Or maybe dead is an extreme word. Things were pretty difficult for medium scale businesses in the beginning though, but it seems to have returned to normal where I live after reasonable amount of business/social activities resumed. I guess cities and big towns are mostly affected where lockdown are still in place around the world?

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July 23, 2020, 05:04:12 AM
#74
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everything is dead we will all die
You are Such a low skill kind of freelancer and business participant if you do not know such a rule as "waiting is better than losing". All now prefer to wait for the first calls of the economic growth and not going to push ahead bringing additional losses. If you don't understand that, I'm sorry. Don't start a panic in a place where they are already doing a great job without you.

it's not about low quality work... it's about where is the demand ? ...

Before i started freelancing again i was a lead developer  in a company , i created a bitcoin trading platform in php and after the backend for a mobile trading & loans platform for eth and eth tokens , nothing to do with skills ...

Here is the problem in freelancing... Indians took over the market with shit prices ... Now you the client will go to a indian do to fact he has lower prices then europeans or americans ... your going to get your project done ... but you will pay shit price and you will get shit quality ... after you will come to skilled european / american freelancers like me and ask us to fix your project ... we give you the real price and you start telling us that you know freelancers that charge cheaper ...

Now we the "low skilled" european/americans  freelancers tell you this : Go F yourself and your project ... if you want quality pay quality ,go  to your indians to fix it ...

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Back in 2010-2015 i built over 300 websites and around 100-150 logos  and other graphic design projects ( satisfied custumers ) some of them you will see them in my old portfolio: https://www.coroflot.com/spy100/My-Portfolio
In 2015 i started working for a company as web developer then in 2018 i was promoted to lead developer until march 2020,i quit my job do to fact ceo wanted to cut salary to 33% out of 100% (excuse coronavirus) ...download stib p2p app to see eth platform
From march 2020 - present date i started freelancing again while i am looking for a job : 2020 portfolio you can see here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kjkjkj-5243944
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