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Quote from: teosanru on July 21, 2020, 06:51:33 AM

Quote from: spy100 on July 20, 2020, 11:47:27 AM

Business / private sector is dead

As a freelancer in 2 months i got 4 clients only ... in my area 4 clients it's like your biz is dead... no matter how much you try to do marketing/advertising it just does not work ...
I look at other peoples businesses same situation ...

High Tech,Web Development,Web design ,Mobile Development ,Marketing,Blockchain development,Dapps,Web Hosting is dead from what i see

I got friends taxi drivers same situation they are just sitting in the taxi and some day zero clients ,barber shops the same they are sitting around all day smoking ... anything that seems a "luxury good" people don't touch this days.

The only thing people are buying is basic necessities ... oh also food and cigarette prices went up again ...

It's a f nightmare ...those that have billions of USD under the mattress better start investing soon ,or that money will be good only as toilet paper ...

Economy i love it ...

I think the whole circle of Economy is devastated due to Covid. Everything ends up at the demands of consumers. Post Covid there has been almost negligible consumer demand in most of the sectors if people don't want things then there is no point of Technological developments and same is the case with marketing. But the problem is consumer demand is hampered due to increased unemployment which in turn has happened due to lack of demand. So someone just needs to rectify this circle for things to come back on rails otherwise we are going to face same thing for quite some time. Why would people develop apps/ Websites when there are barely any people ready to buy their products.

Exactly ... if other people fail we fail also ... like they depend on us we depend on them also ...

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I don't think this is true and to be honest businesses that have online products are the ones who are able to survive and keep most of their employees under their payroll. Companies or businesses where they have to sell their products on a physical location is something that are affected like supermarkets, department stores or or laundry shops as these businesses are affected with lack of people going to them. This is where the advantage for companies who either adapted digitally or naturally exists in a digital way as most of the people are now more active buying their stuff online and even do their work online. Companies who are affected on the other hand still has a chance to adapt for them to save their businesses.

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Many businesses are dead but some of them are still fighting and surviving, so don't lose hope mate. I saw many dead business as well but the owners are not giving up because they adopt the new normal and shift into another business. You might think that your business is not profitable anymore, then its better for you to look for alternatives or do more online business, in my country online business grows a lot especially during the lock down up to this day.

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Quote from: spy100 on July 20, 2020, 11:47:27 AM

Business / private sector is dead

As a freelancer in 2 months i got 4 clients only ... in my area 4 clients it's like your biz is dead... no matter how much you try to do marketing/advertising it just does not work ...
I look at other peoples businesses same situation ...

High Tech,Web Development,Web design ,Mobile Development ,Marketing,Blockchain development,Dapps,Web Hosting is dead from what i see

I got friends taxi drivers same situation they are just sitting in the taxi and some day zero clients ,barber shops the same they are sitting around all day smoking ... anything that seems a "luxury good" people don't touch this days.

The only thing people are buying is basic necessities ... oh also food and cigarette prices went up again ...

It's a f nightmare ...those that have billions of USD under the mattress better start investing soon ,or that money will be good only as toilet paper ...

Economy i love it ...

I think the whole circle of Economy is devastated due to Covid. Everything ends up at the demands of consumers. Post Covid there has been almost negligible consumer demand in most of the sectors if people don't want things then there is no point of Technological developments and same is the case with marketing. But the problem is consumer demand is hampered due to increased unemployment which in turn has happened due to lack of demand. So someone just needs to rectify this circle for things to come back on rails otherwise we are going to face same thing for quite some time. Why would people develop apps/ Websites when there are barely any people ready to buy their products.

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Quote from: Latviand on July 20, 2020, 11:09:14 PM

What if we don't follow the protocol of social distancing, staying at home, and using PPEs, do you think that it can minimize the cases of Covid-19?

You are correct but rather than dying of hunger and starvation I would prefer to take the risk because there are better ways if government implements then both the work and safety can be ensured.

Quote from: Latviand on July 20, 2020, 11:09:14 PM

If we don't sacrifice our businesses then this pandemic could lasts longer, also you will have the risk of getting the disease if your businesses be allowed to operate. We just need to cope up with this circumstances just for us to become safe from the virus. I know that businesses are really declining and we should focus on those businesses that will help us survive in this pandemic just like grocery stores, hospitals and stock market.

Yes everyone needs to contribute and actually if we all can just help poor people around us by giving them some money in these tough times like giving advance salaries to your workers would do a whole great for them because the worst situation is for the daily wages worker since they can't go out and work while also don't have the treasure to use in these times.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on July 20, 2020, 11:26:01 PM

No I do not believe that private sector businesses are dead. It just temporarily at hold or stop its operation due to covid19. There will come a time that the normal will be back right after vaccine for covid19 will be created. Foe now, the safety is the first and foremost to consider. There is no more valuable tha one's life. So we have to take care of it. Always remeber now to observe the minimum health protocol to avoid getting infected with the virus. Then stay at home to save lives.

Yes and actually being an online worker myself I do not feel there is too much problem for people in our field because online work is almost the same although there are less projects but always enough to keep working and keep earning.

My friends who could not move out are actually working from home and the companies have allowed them to work from their home. The most affected industry is the hospitality industry because the hotels are not being booked and there is no travel activity going on because no one wants to go anywhere now and rightly so. I hope they can recover from their situation quickly because even when the pandemic ends people will be hesitant to travel much.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2020, 10:14:04 PM

Yeah all evidence suggests it is somewhat mild as compared to the 1918/1919 spanish flu.

those death estimates were 20 to 50 million people. world population was 1.2 billion

The times were different

Spanish flu started right after World War I when millions of people had died or been killed, and human life didn't amount to much. Aside from that, the world was a pretty separated place back then, and no one cared if a few million people fell victim to some disease halfway across the world. How many of us really care if a million people die from hunger somewhere in Africa if that many people die there year in and year out?

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I don't want to say that the business/private sector is dead because I am sure that every owner of the business still trying to survive and think about how they can pass and save their company. They will search for the other way to survive in this pandemic by contacting their relation to making a new agreement.

I know that some home business is dying, and maybe I will tell some to you. Before the pandemic, that food company only serves the local people, and sometimes, the employee deliver the food to their place. But in the pandemic, the owner trying to figure out how they can survive, and finally, he got something different than what he did before. He tries to use Instagram and Facebook to promote his food list on his page, and he can send the food in the local area. If the customer has a different city, he can send the food by using another shipment service, and he guarantees that his food will still okay in the customer's hands.

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It's not totally dead like what you imagine, there is just a decline with some businesses brought by the virus. For now, we might see a decrease in clients and customers for some business or private sectors but since we are just starting to reopen amidst the pandemic that is why there are still no enough clients. People and businesses still need time to recover from their own losses.

As for other jobs you mentioned like taxi drivers, they will really experience this since it's still not advisable to go outside so there are not enough customers and it's expensive than other means of transportation. In barbershops, I think they are still getting customers since barber shops we're closed for months (and people want haircuts) it's just that they are afraid of going to public places and having close contact with other people since there is still a threat.

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No I do not believe that private sector businesses are dead. It just temporarily at hold or stop its operation due to covid19. There will come a time that the normal will be back right after vaccine for covid19 will be created. Foe now, the safety is the first and foremost to consider. There is no more valuable tha one's life. So we have to take care of it. Always remeber now to observe the minimum health protocol to avoid getting infected with the virus. Then stay at home to save lives.

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What if we don't follow the protocol of social distancing, staying at home, and using PPEs, do you think that it can minimize the cases of Covid-19?

If we don't sacrifice our businesses then this pandemic could lasts longer, also you will have the risk of getting the disease if your businesses be allowed to operate. We just need to cope up with this circumstances just for us to become safe from the virus. I know that businesses are really declining and we should focus on those businesses that will help us survive in this pandemic just like grocery stores, hospitals and stock market. This is the reality and we just need to endure this struggle and hardships especially those business owners who have nothing but to be bankrupt.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 20, 2020, 12:13:29 PM

Well first off what country are you even referring to? This is a global forum. Also, you're right, business is hurting all around there is no question about that. My own career has come under great fire of late, people aren't able to transact like normal in large part.

There is no specific places that encounters that because all of the places are in a global economic crisis.

Most of the people who are working just to have a food for his family are having a hard time due to slack businesses.

It is not a joke to have a business that is not that performing well due to lack of customers, but I hope that we overcome this struggle. Business sector is having a difficulty surviving itself especially that they are unable to operate and people are prohibited to go outside. This is just temporary, we need to face the reality that we are in a recession and we will overcome this soon. You should focus on your basic necessities and help those markets to have some profits.

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Yeah all evidence suggests it is somewhat mild as compared to the 1918/1919 spanish flu.

those death estimates were 20 to 50 million people. world population was 1.2 billion.

so we are around 7x as big . In order to match that we would need 140 to 350 million deaths.

we are 600000 to 1 million deaths. way way way way way less.

pretend second wave comes in oct - dec.

the second wave if bad could be 6 to 10 million dead world wide since the second wave of the spanish flu was 10x the first.

the third wave comes in feb- mar 2021 and it is over.

third wave is lower then first. say 400000 and the world is done.

with at the worst 7 million dead world wide.

I have studied many county totals in New Jersey and in New York.

The worst township in all of New Jersey had 900 catch it with 150 die.

This is Manchester In Ocean county New Jersey. It is a senior. citizen area with 45000 people average age is 68 years old.

Most info show higher death rates for 80 plus. 20x the death rate then 1 to 50.

I toss the numbers up to show worst cases.

It sucks till April 2021
6-8 million die world wide.

Personally

My guess is 1-2 million die world wide and it ends in Feb- March.

But business will pick up as it adjusts to the mess caused by the pandemic.

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You know the reason why things turned out like this right? Therefore, it's not making sense to say that businesses are done.

The world will slowly back again on track or should I say, it's now in process. Trust the process.

Cheer up. There are more people who experience even worst than you. It's not the end of the day.

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Quote from: spy100 on July 20, 2020, 12:25:00 PM

It does not matter what country ...the same situation is global

Yes, it matters a lot which country you're talking about because where I'm at (the US), I'm not seeing things nearly as bleak as you're describing. We've been hit pretty hard by the forced shutdowns, but things are slowly getting back to normal with stores reopening--and I'm seeing parking lots at least halfway filled with cars at some of my local shopping plazas.

I can understand it's probably pretty bad where you are, but this whole situation isn't going to last forever. In the US we've already got people protesting the use of face masks and some of them even think this pandemic is just a political move. In any case, people aren't going to stand for the economy being shut down for an extended length of time, mark my words.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 20, 2020, 06:39:08 PM

I can't say that the business sector is dead "TOTALLY" but maybe I could say that most of them are either dead temporarily or permanently.

Temporarily on hiatus is how I'd describe the situation for a lot of businesses. I don't think the COVID-19 outbreak actually killed many of them outright.

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Most Private Sector Businesses are not generating PROFIT.

I actually understand your point. If you are pertaining to the downfall of country's economy because of this pandemic situation. Business are also down, private sectors are just started to get back on track and to earn like before. Online businesses in our area are more likely to be most considered at the moment like this. Freelance jobs are also highly favored by most of the people in our country because most of us here in our country lost the job.

Having a less client like you said, means that other clients needs to survive too. Maybe they are also suffering from this situation, you have to be broadminded. Be optimistic, mate. If you are down being a freelancer with just few clients. Find other job. Having few clients is better than nothing.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 20, 2020, 06:39:08 PM

I can't say that the business sector is dead "TOTALLY" but maybe I could say that most of them are either dead temporarily or permanently.

The effect of the the virus right now is global so for sure this is a global issue. Most of the businesses already are being forced to closed because of the pandemic especially those small and medium business owners. I would disagree though with your clients as your basis that the business sector is dead. Maybe you aren't good enough to be picked by clients. I see some freelancers that I know that have many clients still.

Maybe next time, be specific not generalized because not all of these are experiencing the same way. Yes maybe most of them are but still there are businesses that are still operating until now.

Private sector is not dead at all. If they are, there will be necessities that we will not avail. Maybe they are not in full operations but I guess most of them are still struggling because of this pandemic. But one way or another, they need to exist as there are some services that people need.

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Sad truth. That's what I saw anywhere here in my beloved country. Other industries are extremely dead now, and I felt the pain of the people struggling to survive amidst of this Pandemic. We seem to be very helpless, if we belong to work on those unnecessary industry. Because at this strange time, people are only spending on their essential needs. We just hope it will be over soonest, so all of the people from different sectors and industries will have to revive their business again and so the economy will.

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I can't say that the business sector is dead "TOTALLY" but maybe I could say that most of them are either dead temporarily or permanently.

The effect of the the virus right now is global so for sure this is a global issue. Most of the businesses already are being forced to closed because of the pandemic especially those small and medium business owners. I would disagree though with your clients as your basis that the business sector is dead. Maybe you aren't good enough to be picked by clients. I see some freelancers that I know that have many clients still.

Maybe next time, be specific not generalized because not all of these are experiencing the same way. Yes maybe most of them are but still there are businesses that are still operating until now.

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I think not actually dead, maybe we are on the same country so I understand what you are saying. Yes it's true many are affected because of this pandemic, but you should not say all private sectors are dead because there are still people continue and even progress despite the pandemic because of their strategy on how to survive. Many are also trying online jobs and online selling that are in demand today.

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