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Quote from: dooglus on August 05, 2020, 12:17:33 PM

Quote from: xxjumperxx on August 03, 2020, 02:57:34 AM

How so?
I get a % share in the BR and based on this I receive my Interest..
How do I make less the more I invest?

Suppose that the bankroll before you invest is 5000 BTC, and that over the course of your investment players lose 50 BTC.

If you invest 0.01 BTC then you have 0.01 out of 5000.01 and earn 0.0001 BTC which is a 1% return.

If you invest 1 BTC then you have 1 out of 5001 and earn 0.009998 BTC which is a 0.9998% return.

If you invest 100 BTC then you have 100 out of 5100 and earn 0.98039216 BTC which is a 0.98039216% return.

If you invest 5000 BTC then you have 5000 out of 10000 and earn 25 BTC which is a 0.5% return.

The more you invest, the smaller your percentage return (assuming your investment doesn't entice new whales to play and lose).

I feel dumb that I never realized it worked like this.

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Quote from: dooglus on August 05, 2020, 12:17:33 PM

Quote from: xxjumperxx on August 03, 2020, 02:57:34 AM

How so?
I get a % share in the BR and based on this I receive my Interest..
How do I make less the more I invest?

Suppose that the bankroll before you invest is 5000 BTC, and that over the course of your investment players lose 50 BTC.

If you invest 0.01 BTC then you have 0.01 out of 5000.01 and earn 0.0001 BTC which is a 1% return.

If you invest 1 BTC then you have 1 out of 5001 and earn 0.009998 BTC which is a 0.9998% return.

If you invest 100 BTC then you have 100 out of 5100 and earn 0.98039216 BTC which is a 0.98039216% return.

If you invest 5000 BTC then you have 5000 out of 10000 and earn 25 BTC which is a 0.5% return.

The more you invest, the smaller your percentage return (assuming your investment doesn't entice new whales to play and lose).

Wow, thanks alot for explaining it like that, even I understood!
Very much appreciated and makes sense!

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Investors spending some or most of what they earn by participating in the bankroll by playing the game itself - is not a bad way to try to earn even more. No guarantees of-course they will ever win more but at least it softens the blow if they did since their original bankroll investment is still intact and can be withdrawn as and when needed.

@devans

Is it possible to share that information?

Quote from: malevolent on August 04, 2020, 11:05:33 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on August 04, 2020, 02:12:33 PM

Does anybody have statistics showing the ratio of game players that are also bankroll investors?

I don't remember this kind of information ever being publicly available, I think devans is the only person who could share such information.

I'd also be interested to know what % of bankroll investors are gamblers too. Especially if data took account of players who wagered at least a tenth of what they had invested.

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Quote from: xxjumperxx on August 03, 2020, 02:57:34 AM

How so?
I get a % share in the BR and based on this I receive my Interest..
How do I make less the more I invest?

Suppose that the bankroll before you invest is 5000 BTC, and that over the course of your investment players lose 50 BTC.

If you invest 0.01 BTC then you have 0.01 out of 5000.01 and earn 0.0001 BTC which is a 1% return.

If you invest 1 BTC then you have 1 out of 5001 and earn 0.009998 BTC which is a 0.9998% return.

If you invest 100 BTC then you have 100 out of 5100 and earn 0.98039216 BTC which is a 0.98039216% return.

If you invest 5000 BTC then you have 5000 out of 10000 and earn 25 BTC which is a 0.5% return.

The more you invest, the smaller your percentage return (assuming your investment doesn't entice new whales to play and lose).

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Quote from: malevolent on August 04, 2020, 11:05:33 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on August 04, 2020, 02:12:33 PM

Does anybody have statistics showing the ratio of game players that are also bankroll investors?

I don't remember this kind of information ever being publicly available, I think devans is the only person who could share such information.

I'd also be interested to know what % of bankroll investors are gamblers too. Especially if data took account of players who wagered at least a tenth of what they had invested.

And how could that even be tracked? Is an investor considered a gambler if they just tried the game once, or if they consistently play, or have wagered big amounts over time?

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 04, 2020, 02:12:33 PM

Does anybody have statistics showing the ratio of game players that are also bankroll investors?

I agree with malevolent, I dont think that data was ever made available.
I think Devans wants to not make too much info available about investors...

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 04, 2020, 02:12:33 PM

Does anybody have statistics showing the ratio of game players that are also bankroll investors?

I don't remember this kind of information ever being publicly available, I think devans is the only person who could share such information.

I'd also be interested to know what % of bankroll investors are gamblers too. Especially if data took account of players who wagered at least a tenth of what they had invested.

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Does anybody have statistics showing the ratio of game players that are also bankroll investors?

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Quote from: darewaller on August 04, 2020, 09:11:02 AM

This is the reason why I am asking what the lower end investors are thinking, does it worth it because it makes a decent amount, or is it too little to care when you are investing such a small amount, because if it is just too little to care,

There is a saying " The house always win " so although there could be some variances, if you plan to put your money on this site for a long period of time then it might be worth it.

Quote from: darewaller on August 04, 2020, 09:11:02 AM

I could risk it on something else that would be riskier but higher earning instead.

Sure you could gamble it on this site and double it within few seconds of playing if you are lucky to hit x2 multiplier straight away. That being said, investing on a gambling site is nothing more like gambling in particular. The difference is that instead of playing against the house with house edge, you are getting advantage with those house edge

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Quote from: Timetwister on August 02, 2020, 11:47:01 PM

You get a proportional amount of the profits, it doesn't matter if you invest $1 or $1,000,000. Actually your returns are lower the more you invest (but you have to invest a lot for this to be relevant).

Yes, you get proportional but I just wanted to learn from small time investors that how much they have made and what they were thinking about it.

When you make 10% in few months that is 10 bucks if you invested 100 dollars, that is 10 million dollars if you invested 100m, obviously I doubt anyone would ever invest 100 million Cheesy

that is too much, but I just wanted to show you the difference how much it could be when we are talking about same amount of % earned but from different amounts.

This is the reason why I am asking what the lower end investors are thinking, does it worth it because it makes a decent amount, or is it too little to care when you are investing such a small amount, because if it is just too little to care, I could risk it on something else that would be riskier but higher earning instead.

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Quote from: MFahad on August 01, 2020, 06:00:08 AM

Who so ever put all his money in gambling is responsible for his loss. People think that they could become millionaire in a day are totally wrong, if they go all in , 90% of the time they will lose. Its the greed which cause people to lose what they already have. Sad

I think when gamblers lose more money than they can afford to lose, they become desperate, they try every single method they can to get some money out, they hope that places will give them hush money as well and they just spit bs like this all the time.

I have seen so many people who have tried to do the same. Hell I am not going to lie, I did something similar back in the day when it was satoshidice and way early days (there wasn't any off-chain dice to give you an idea) but it was due to misunderstanding, they explained to be what the problem was and we figured it out and they sent me my money back, no loss no profit just money back and we came to an agreement, but if I didn't, I would have probably lost all that money.

So, if you say there are drug deals and so forth and make stuff up, you will get nothing, but if you believe you are right, it doesn't hurt to get their attention somehow.

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Quote from: Timetwister on August 02, 2020, 11:47:01 PM

You get a proportional amount of the profits, it doesn't matter if you invest $1 or $1,000,000. Actually your returns are lower the more you invest (but you have to invest a lot for this to be relevant).

How so?
I get a % share in the BR and based on this I receive my Interest..
How do I make less the more I invest?

The Dillution fee is the same (%wise) and my return is also...

Edit: wow look at this round.
The amount of people on 3x and the sums. Shocked

https://www.bustabit.com/game/3523990

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Quote from: darewaller on August 02, 2020, 11:54:45 AM

Anyone have a small investment here? I know that big investors are already here and there is a huge bankroll to invest in but I wanted to know if there are anyone who have invested under 250 dollars that could help me out with numbers. I do not have too much money to invest but I so want to do it yet looking at the huge number invested I feel like even if I invest, my investment would be so small that I wouldn't make any return at all.

I feel like you need a lot of money to start investing and see actual returns. If anyone invested like 100 bucks let's say and have been invested for the past 6 months for example, could you tell me what the return was like? That way I could calculate my own, obviously past doesn't mean it will be like that in the future but could make me understand a bit better.

You get a proportional amount of the profits, it doesn't matter if you invest $1 or $1,000,000. Actually your returns are lower the more you invest (but you have to invest a lot for this to be relevant).

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Quote from: darewaller on August 02, 2020, 11:54:45 AM

Anyone have a small investment here? I know that big investors are already here and there is a huge bankroll to invest in but I wanted to know if there are anyone who have invested under 250 dollars that could help me out with numbers. I do not have too much money to invest but I so want to do it yet looking at the huge number invested I feel like even if I invest, my investment would be so small that I wouldn't make any return at all.

I feel like you need a lot of money to start investing and see actual returns. If anyone invested like 100 bucks let's say and have been invested for the past 6 months for example, could you tell me what the return was like? That way I could calculate my own, obviously past doesn't mean it will be like that in the future but could make me understand a bit better.

Even if your Investment is small to start off, you still receive a %share in the Bankroll... Yes the amount will be lower but the %of win/loss will still be the same. I started off small and increased it over time when I had spare money. I dont regret it one bit.

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Anyone have a small investment here? I know that big investors are already here and there is a huge bankroll to invest in but I wanted to know if there are anyone who have invested under 250 dollars that could help me out with numbers. I do not have too much money to invest but I so want to do it yet looking at the huge number invested I feel like even if I invest, my investment would be so small that I wouldn't make any return at all.

I feel like you need a lot of money to start investing and see actual returns. If anyone invested like 100 bucks let's say and have been invested for the past 6 months for example, could you tell me what the return was like? That way I could calculate my own, obviously past doesn't mean it will be like that in the future but could make me understand a bit better.

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Quote from: Lakai01 on August 02, 2020, 02:10:52 AM

This is exactly the reason why there are quite simple animations. These are much better suited for fast consecutive games, e.g. through scripts. In my opinion this site is more for players who want to play as much automated games as possible and not for people who play 1-2 games every now and then.

There are many alternatives on the market of crypto-casinos if you want to play nicely animated, varied games (Tower.Bet for example). However, there are only a few sites that target hardcore gamers and even offer direct script support

Yes only few sites such as this are offering a script support, well honestly even though that this site has a simple animation they're entertaining and addictive. I'm really looking into gameplay rather than the animations and aesthetics.

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Quote from: bonjouros on August 01, 2020, 08:24:14 AM

Actually pretty exciting and addictive even though I may say that the animation of the crash game is a little bit simple unlike other crash game I've played before but due to their animation the betting and round takes a bit longer.

This is exactly the reason why there are quite simple animations. These are much better suited for fast consecutive games, e.g. through scripts. In my opinion this site is more for players who want to play as much automated games as possible and not for people who play 1-2 games every now and then.

There are many alternatives on the market of crypto-casinos if you want to play nicely animated, varied games (Tower.Bet for example). However, there are only a few sites that target hardcore gamers and even offer direct script support

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 01, 2020, 08:00:48 AM

Nice to read a review about the signing up process at Bustabit. How did you find the game play?

Quote from: bonjouros on August 01, 2020, 02:53:17 AM

Tried to register and test your site good thing that I like it is the script editor where in you can create your own script to make an automated bet with built in script.
Good thing about it is I can edit it and make a customization from it through good user interface and not on that complicated typing script although you can use it as well.

Actually pretty exciting and addictive even though I may say that the animation of the crash game is a little bit simple unlike other crash game I've played before but due to their animation the betting and round takes a bit longer.

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Nice to read a review about the signing up process at Bustabit. How did you find the game play?

Quote from: bonjouros on August 01, 2020, 02:53:17 AM

Tried to register and test your site good thing that I like it is the script editor where in you can create your own script to make an automated bet with built in script.
Good thing about it is I can edit it and make a customization from it through good user interface and not on that complicated typing script although you can use it as well.

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Quote from: MFahad on July 31, 2020, 11:01:41 PM

Probably he has lost a lot of money and now he is showing his reaction. Such things wont change the result of the game and neither they will bring back the lost money on the gambling site. Better he should forget this and move on.

That was also the first thing that came to my mind when I read the accusation.
But if you take a closer look at your trust rating from JollyGood, including the reference that is given there ... This was not the first time he attacked the casinos of Daniel/RHavar with such false accusations.
Personally I find it a great pity, of course. The false accusation of a single user is of course not harmful to business, but it just doesn't have to be.

Provably this is revenge from the site where he lose his money so better not to take him seriously since we cannot trust those people act like that, Maybe for others who think about earning big money or want to become instant millionaire they should think more deeper since gambling is game of chance and intended for entertainment, they should put that in their minds so that they will not put their life on it and put all their money on it.

Who so ever put all his money in gambling is responsible for his loss. People think that they could become millionaire in a day are totally wrong, if they go all in , 90% of the time they will lose. Its the greed which cause people to lose what they already have. Sad

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