Here is a recently completed auction of the Essemtec reflow oven pictured.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESSEMTEC-RO300FC-REFLOW-OVEN-/320989507198?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abc772e7e
Is there any way BFL could prove they won the auction?
Topic: Butterfly Labs invests heavily in high speed production equipment - page 14. (Read 32321 times)
October 05, 2012, 11:55:21 AM
October 05, 2012, 08:27:03 AM
"BFL plan B"
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I admit that the ESSEMTEC one cheated me, I tought it be authentic.
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I admit that the ESSEMTEC one cheated me, I tought it be authentic.
Or BFL plan C - take the money and run away
They produce invisible ASIC using invisible production equipment. It is a pity that people do not pay invisible money.
October 05, 2012, 07:29:09 AM
What are they using a light microscope and fan ducting for?
I'm not sure if you're trolling or not but those are more crucial for assembly and inspection than the assembly machines...
I think it has already been pointed out that these picture are not actually at their facility though
October 05, 2012, 07:06:01 AM
"BFL plan B"
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I admit that the ESSEMTEC one cheated me, I tought it be authentic.
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I admit that the ESSEMTEC one cheated me, I tought it be authentic.
October 05, 2012, 06:55:24 AM
This image also can be found in http://images.google.com
Type MPMSPM
http://www.google.com/imgres?start=45&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=622&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=d_I7GM-4pfwnrM:&imgrefurl=http://www.caeonline.com/listing/product/157479/mpm-spm&docid=EAJ11E96oNqLdM&itg=1&imgurl=http://images.caeonline.com/im.php%253Fid%253D%252520207137&w=448&h=418&ei=DshuUL9jysW0BtGUgcAG&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=904&vpy=100&dur=6778&hovh=217&hovw=232&tx=32&ty=243&sig=111594285518178604383&page=3&tbnh=143&tbnw=164&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:45,i:250
Type MPMSPM
http://www.google.com/imgres?start=45&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=622&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=d_I7GM-4pfwnrM:&imgrefurl=http://www.caeonline.com/listing/product/157479/mpm-spm&docid=EAJ11E96oNqLdM&itg=1&imgurl=http://images.caeonline.com/im.php%253Fid%253D%252520207137&w=448&h=418&ei=DshuUL9jysW0BtGUgcAG&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=904&vpy=100&dur=6778&hovh=217&hovw=232&tx=32&ty=243&sig=111594285518178604383&page=3&tbnh=143&tbnw=164&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:45,i:250
October 05, 2012, 06:31:21 AM
Date taken this picture by: EXIF 2009:02:18 4:12:17 p.m.
October 05, 2012, 06:23:53 AM
Why a picture "$ (KGrHqV,! l0F! hHkmETFBQYJ, 63i0w ~ ~ 60_3.jpg" is downloaded from ebay?
This is not a photo taken by BFL just downloaded from ebay. It is easy to check, type in google "http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$"
$(KGrHqV,!l0F!h....... Its ebay file naming.
I found it yet : "Processed By eBay with ImageMagick, R1.1.1.M2b"
This is not a photo taken by BFL just downloaded from ebay. It is easy to check, type in google "http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$"
$(KGrHqV,!l0F!h....... Its ebay file naming.
I found it yet : "Processed By eBay with ImageMagick, R1.1.1.M2b"
October 05, 2012, 05:40:07 AM
+1
October 05, 2012, 05:18:28 AM
Got the newsletter in my inbox as well. Unfortunately, I wasn't impressed since all the images shown were examples and none from their facility. Even if they took some "in-the-works" shots.. it would be more reassuring than the current newsletter.
Indeed. Look at the pictures EXIF data:
- The first one is dated on 2009
- The third one says "Processed By eBay with ImageMagick, R1.1.1.M2b"
October 05, 2012, 01:30:22 AM
I hope they also bought some esd mats and wrist straps this time!
October 04, 2012, 11:45:09 PM
What are they using a light microscope and fan ducting for?
October 04, 2012, 11:39:14 PM
I got it 6 times!!!! 
October 04, 2012, 10:59:38 PM
Got the newsletter in my inbox as well. Unfortunately, I wasn't impressed since all the images shown were examples and none from their facility. Even if they took some "in-the-works" shots.. it would be more reassuring than the current newsletter.
October 04, 2012, 10:12:01 PM
So they can more quickly fill those government orders and 51% attack
October 04, 2012, 09:43:28 PM
noice!
October 04, 2012, 09:33:27 PM
Darn you beat me to it!
Yeah that one Reflow machine is roughly $30K from what I could find after a quick search.
No idea as to how much the pick and place or other machines are. Guessing at least as expensive.
Well that's good then as they should be able to pump out pieces much faster once they get up to training and speed in learning the new equipment.
Yeah that one Reflow machine is roughly $30K from what I could find after a quick search.
No idea as to how much the pick and place or other machines are. Guessing at least as expensive.
Well that's good then as they should be able to pump out pieces much faster once they get up to training and speed in learning the new equipment.
Reflow machines are just glorified ovens. (not really incredibly special IMHO).
Pick and place machines are much more complicated and typically a lot more expensive. But of course you pay heavily for performance of these machines (how many reels or strips of parts you can load into it, how many arms there are, how fast the arm moves, the precision of the placement, etc.)
October 04, 2012, 09:24:18 PM
Darn you beat me to it!
Yeah that one Reflow machine is roughly $30K from what I could find after a quick search.
No idea as to how much the pick and place or other machines are. Guessing at least as expensive.
Well that's good then as they should be able to pump out pieces much faster once they get up to training and speed in learning the new equipment.
Yeah that one Reflow machine is roughly $30K from what I could find after a quick search.
No idea as to how much the pick and place or other machines are. Guessing at least as expensive.
Well that's good then as they should be able to pump out pieces much faster once they get up to training and speed in learning the new equipment.
October 04, 2012, 09:11:34 PM
you got the newsletter too 
they sent it to me many times
Cool looking equipment tho! and posting it all with the cool pictures and all is a cool marketing "gimmick"
they sent it to me many times
Cool looking equipment tho! and posting it all with the cool pictures and all is a cool marketing "gimmick"
Yup, I got it three times. Per each email address that they had... lol
Very nice equipment. And VERY expensive.
October 04, 2012, 09:02:10 PM
you got the newsletter too
they sent it to me many times
Cool looking equipment tho! and posting it all with the cool pictures and all is a cool marketing "gimmick"
they sent it to me many times
Cool looking equipment tho! and posting it all with the cool pictures and all is a cool marketing "gimmick"
October 04, 2012, 08:55:38 PM
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