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bitmar

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Quote from: Bogart on October 14, 2012, 03:39:43 PM

I suppose it is unclear. My bet statement includes the 13th, though CoinHoarder's does not.

Call it invalid?

Or we could make it fun and make a poll thread to decide.

Do not do it. there are too much fanatical BFL's followers Wink

before is before, before <13 not = <
It would be fair to cancel the bet because of unclear proof, and not sufficiently precise wording bet. But both sides must agree.

Bogart

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I suppose it is unclear. My bet statement includes the 13th, though CoinHoarder's does not.

Call it invalid?

Or we could make it fun and make a poll thread to decide.

bobitza

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One machine delivered.

squid

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It's the 14th... were any new pictures posted?

Kaliecious

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saturday was the 13th the last day of the week he said through the 13 so therfore 13th would be included

SLok

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Quote from: Bogart on October 06, 2012, 01:26:28 AM

Quote from: fuxianhui888 on October 05, 2012, 02:58:20 PM

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BFL_Office - 10-05-2012, 02:11 PM Reply
Because they're in transit. The announcement was made after our purchase. Once the machines are fully installed, we'll be happy to flood you with photos and assembly videos

let's see

Let's see indeed. If they were purchased on Wednesday the 3rd, they ought to be arriving around Monday the 8th if they ship from within the US. I can't imagine BFL waiting for slow international shipping. They are on a schedule after all.

I'll wager 5 BTC that no such photos show up any time next week (thru the 13th) that are not obvious fakes or highly questionable. Certainly none that provide a solid assurance that BFL is in fact in possession of and operating or setting up these machines for operation.

(Post in the thread if you wanna take the other side of this wager.)

Is "thru the 13th" not including the 13th itself? Sorry if it is not, english is not my mother tongue.

Bogart

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Quote from: MrTeal on October 14, 2012, 12:13:12 PM

Quote from: Bogart on October 06, 2012, 01:26:28 AM

Quote from: fuxianhui888 on October 05, 2012, 02:58:20 PM

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BFL_Office - 10-05-2012, 02:11 PM Reply
Because they're in transit. The announcement was made after our purchase. Once the machines are fully installed, we'll be happy to flood you with photos and assembly videos

let's see

Let's see indeed. If they were purchased on Wednesday the 3rd, they ought to be arriving around Monday the 8th if they ship from within the US. I can't imagine BFL waiting for slow international shipping. They are on a schedule after all.

I'll wager 5 BTC that no such photos show up any time next week (thru the 13th) that are not obvious fakes or highly questionable. Certainly none that provide a solid assurance that BFL is in fact in possession of and operating or setting up these machines for operation.

(Post in the thread if you wanna take the other side of this wager.)

If Bogart wants to be semantic, he could argue that the picture of what appears to be the oven in the back of a truck doesn't meet the criteria of his bet. BFL announced that once the machines were fully installed they would provide photos and assembly videos. Bogart bet that BFL wouldn't provide photos that
1) BFL was in possession of the machines, and
2) Operating or setting up the machines for operation.

I'd say 1) is satisfied, but 2) is questionable.

I wouldn't say Bogart won the bet, but I would say there's enough there that he could not pay without earning himself a scammer tag.

Hm... Also if you want to argue semantics, CoinHoarder said:

Quote from: CoinHoarder on October 06, 2012, 01:41:50 AM

To be clear, I am betting 5 BTC that BFL posts pictures of their new equipment before 10/13/2012.

Going by the post date on the blog, they were posted near the end of 10/13, not before 10/13.

What do you think CoinHoarder?

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Quote from: Bogart on October 06, 2012, 01:26:28 AM

Quote from: fuxianhui888 on October 05, 2012, 02:58:20 PM

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BFL_Office - 10-05-2012, 02:11 PM Reply
Because they're in transit. The announcement was made after our purchase. Once the machines are fully installed, we'll be happy to flood you with photos and assembly videos

let's see

Let's see indeed. If they were purchased on Wednesday the 3rd, they ought to be arriving around Monday the 8th if they ship from within the US. I can't imagine BFL waiting for slow international shipping. They are on a schedule after all.

I'll wager 5 BTC that no such photos show up any time next week (thru the 13th) that are not obvious fakes or highly questionable. Certainly none that provide a solid assurance that BFL is in fact in possession of and operating or setting up these machines for operation.

(Post in the thread if you wanna take the other side of this wager.)

If Bogart wants to be semantic, he could argue that the picture of what appears to be the oven in the back of a truck doesn't meet the criteria of his bet. BFL announced that once the machines were fully installed they would provide photos and assembly videos. Bogart bet that BFL wouldn't provide photos that
1) BFL was in possession of the machines, and
2) Operating or setting up the machines for operation.

I'd say 1) is satisfied, but 2) is questionable.

I wouldn't say Bogart won the bet, but I would say there's enough there that he could not pay without earning himself a scammer tag.

bitmar

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Quote from: scrybe on October 14, 2012, 10:15:52 AM

Quote from: bitmar on October 14, 2012, 10:13:19 AM

Quote from: Kaliecious on October 14, 2012, 10:03:39 AM

look at the time it was posted, I think it was done to fuck with him. lol

I think so too, but I'm afraid followers of BFL sect

so I'm quietly Wink

I suggest to cancel a bet, because date of the photo is in BFL moderators hands.

Seriously? you think they would screw with the time stamps on forum posts over a 5BTC bet?

Tinfoil hat much?

This is not about 5BTC, it's about honor their client and honor their own... and for good PR

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Quote from: bitmar on October 14, 2012, 10:13:19 AM

Quote from: Kaliecious on October 14, 2012, 10:03:39 AM

look at the time it was posted, I think it was done to fuck with him. lol

I think so too, but I'm afraid followers of BFL sect

so I'm quietly Wink

I suggest to cancel a bet, because date of the photo is in BFL moderators hands.

Seriously? you think they would screw with the time stamps on forum posts over a 5BTC bet?

Tinfoil hat much?

bitmar

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Quote from: Kaliecious on October 14, 2012, 10:03:39 AM

look at the time it was posted, I think it was done to fuck with him. lol

I think so too, but I'm afraid followers of BFL sect

so I'm quietly Wink

I suggest to cancel a bet, because date of the photo is in BFL moderators hands.

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Quote from: bitmar on October 14, 2012, 09:09:58 AM

Quote from: SLok on October 14, 2012, 08:43:29 AM

Quote from: bitmar on October 13, 2012, 06:05:29 AM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on October 06, 2012, 01:41:50 AM

Quote from: Bogart on October 06, 2012, 01:26:28 AM

To be clear, I am betting 5 BTC that BFL posts pictures of their new equipment before 10/13/2012.

Today is 10/13/2012. BFL has not posted any new equipment photos. Was explained that the first picture is not fake, but what about photo 2 and 3?
Bogart, just won 5BTC.
@CoinHoarder - I hope you are an honorable man

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/entry.php/14-Taking-delivery-of-the-oven

LOL

no one has found this picture yesterday? The first comments are from 14/10/2012. Pity that they would not have published this photo on a forum yesterday... but it seems that the winning is reversed

I concur, nobody said Josh could not screw with us, it would seem that the bet did fall the other way.

Hey Inna, did you do that on purpose or just look down at the time and go "oh crap!?"

Kaliecious

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look at the time it was posted, I think it was done to fuck with him. lol

bitmar

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Quote from: SLok on October 14, 2012, 08:43:29 AM

Quote from: bitmar on October 13, 2012, 06:05:29 AM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on October 06, 2012, 01:41:50 AM

Quote from: Bogart on October 06, 2012, 01:26:28 AM

Quote from: fuxianhui888 on October 05, 2012, 02:58:20 PM

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BFL_Office - 10-05-2012, 02:11 PM Reply
Because they're in transit. The announcement was made after our purchase. Once the machines are fully installed, we'll be happy to flood you with photos and assembly videos

let's see

Let's see indeed. If they were purchased on Wednesday the 3rd, they ought to be arriving around Monday the 8th if they ship from within the US. I can't imagine BFL waiting for slow international shipping. They are on a schedule after all.

I'll wager 5 BTC that no such photos show up any time next week (thru the 13th) that are not obvious fakes or highly questionable. Certainly none that provide a solid assurance that BFL is in fact in possession of and operating or setting up these machines for operation.

(Post in the thread if you wanna take the other side of this wager.)

I accept your bet. Someone quote please.

To be clear, I am betting 5 BTC that BFL posts pictures of their new equipment before 10/13/2012.

Today is 10/13/2012. BFL has not posted any new equipment photos. Was explained that the first picture is not fake, but what about photo 2 and 3?
Bogart, just won 5BTC.
@CoinHoarder - I hope you are an honorable man

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/entry.php/14-Taking-delivery-of-the-oven

LOL

no one has found this picture yesterday? The first comments are from 14/10/2012. Pity that they would not have published this photo on a forum yesterday... but it seems that the winning is reversed

SLok

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Quote from: bitmar on October 13, 2012, 06:05:29 AM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on October 06, 2012, 01:41:50 AM

Quote from: Bogart on October 06, 2012, 01:26:28 AM

Quote from: fuxianhui888 on October 05, 2012, 02:58:20 PM

Quote

BFL_Office - 10-05-2012, 02:11 PM Reply
Because they're in transit. The announcement was made after our purchase. Once the machines are fully installed, we'll be happy to flood you with photos and assembly videos

let's see

Let's see indeed. If they were purchased on Wednesday the 3rd, they ought to be arriving around Monday the 8th if they ship from within the US. I can't imagine BFL waiting for slow international shipping. They are on a schedule after all.

I'll wager 5 BTC that no such photos show up any time next week (thru the 13th) that are not obvious fakes or highly questionable. Certainly none that provide a solid assurance that BFL is in fact in possession of and operating or setting up these machines for operation.

(Post in the thread if you wanna take the other side of this wager.)

I accept your bet. Someone quote please.

To be clear, I am betting 5 BTC that BFL posts pictures of their new equipment before 10/13/2012.

Today is 10/13/2012. BFL has not posted any new equipment photos. Was explained that the first picture is not fake, but what about photo 2 and 3?
Bogart, just won 5BTC.
@CoinHoarder - I hope you are an honorable man

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/entry.php/14-Taking-delivery-of-the-oven

bitmar

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Trust in business can cost you a lot of money, fortunately in this case only 5BTC.

Bogart

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Quote from: bitmar on October 13, 2012, 06:05:29 AM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on October 06, 2012, 01:41:50 AM

Quote from: Bogart on October 06, 2012, 01:26:28 AM

Quote from: fuxianhui888 on October 05, 2012, 02:58:20 PM

Quote

BFL_Office - 10-05-2012, 02:11 PM Reply
Because they're in transit. The announcement was made after our purchase. Once the machines are fully installed, we'll be happy to flood you with photos and assembly videos

let's see

Let's see indeed. If they were purchased on Wednesday the 3rd, they ought to be arriving around Monday the 8th if they ship from within the US. I can't imagine BFL waiting for slow international shipping. They are on a schedule after all.

I'll wager 5 BTC that no such photos show up any time next week (thru the 13th) that are not obvious fakes or highly questionable. Certainly none that provide a solid assurance that BFL is in fact in possession of and operating or setting up these machines for operation.

(Post in the thread if you wanna take the other side of this wager.)

I accept your bet. Someone quote please.

To be clear, I am betting 5 BTC that BFL posts pictures of their new equipment before 10/13/2012.

Today is 10/13/2012. BFL has not posted any new equipment photos. Was explained that the first picture is not fake, but what about photo 2 and 3?
Bogart, just won 5BTC.
@CoinHoarder - I hope you are an honorable man

Looks that way.

My signature address will be fine.

Better luck next time.

Unacceptable

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If you haven't PRE-ORDERED any ASIC's from anyone,you pretty much missed the boarding party.

Not to say that you missed the boat though Grin

But thats your choice Wink

Hard to believe that someone with over 2000 posts here is that scared though....................

AndrewBUD

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I will see how things pan out.. I am not preordering anything... If that means I am SOL well so be it.

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Quote from: AndrewBUD on October 13, 2012, 09:49:31 AM

Quote from: crazyates on October 13, 2012, 09:45:02 AM

Quote from: AndrewBUD on October 13, 2012, 09:35:38 AM

Quote from: dust on October 05, 2012, 11:55:21 AM

Here is a recently completed auction of the Essemtec reflow oven pictured.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESSEMTEC-RO300FC-REFLOW-OVEN-/320989507198?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abc772e7e

Is there any way BFL could prove they won the auction?

This is crazy... These things are supposed to ship in few weeks and their just bidding on equipment?

They said the first batch was too large for them to produce, even with this hardware. The initial batch will be manufactured at the same plant as as the current Singles, and shipped in a large batch. This hardware is for after they're all caught up, so they can make a unit and ship it within days of ordering.

Is that something similar to what happened with the FPGA's?

I don't think BFL ever even attempted to manufacture the current Singles.

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