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Quote from: newwest on January 22, 2021, 05:10:31 AM

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This is an amazing story, this is a big brain play by Stefan. It required a lot of work and effort, filling out almost 2 million lottery tickets manually will take almost forever and even submitting them to different branches. Even if they were able to make only 82% of the combinations, this kind of odds is still risky. I wonder if this kind of plan will still work if a lottery prize accumulates very high.

Lucky enough for them they were able to make some profits out of it and not got wasted anything else not only efforts but money would have gone as they were still short of 18%. Fortune favours the brave what I can imagine form this situation and not sure if still people would try out all such things at present as well to win it.

I don't know how that works though.

Here in our country, we have this lottery where people guess which will be the combinations of numbers that appear. There are a lot of numbers and that also means there are a lot of possible combinations. For example, guessing 6 numbers would appear out of numbers 1-45, I am not good with math but as far as I know, using the formula of Combination that is like 8145060 possibilities and multiply that to the price of a ticket (P20) is like P162901200 or $3388108.75 with just a prize of P28 Million which is like $582359.40, that is a huge loss.

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This is an amazing story, this is a big brain play by Stefan. It required a lot of work and effort, filling out almost 2 million lottery tickets manually will take almost forever and even submitting them to different branches. Even if they were able to make only 82% of the combinations, this kind of odds is still risky. I wonder if this kind of plan will still work if a lottery prize accumulates very high.

Lucky enough for them they were able to make some profits out of it and not got wasted anything else not only efforts but money would have gone as they were still short of 18%. Fortune favours the brave what I can imagine form this situation and not sure if still people would try out all such things at present as well to win it.

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Yes,,, the favorite story repeated many times to us gamblers and an example where one guy learnt how to beat the house:) Probably a lot of other untold stories too (since when you tell them then people know how to fix the flaw).

These days almost impossible to do this type of thing I guess without a big capital.

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Imagine the sheer dedication of this group just to get £300k in profits. I'm pretty sure they are clever enough to discern which numbers are more likely to get picked and ended up ditching those that aren't really appealing to their algorithms or formulas. I've always wondered whether this can be done on legitimate lottery games and boy, I never knew someone already did it. But yeah, the how's and what's on their strategy--specifically the way they chose the non-probable combinations--may never be revealed, though it's a legendary feat nonetheless.

Would be surprised if someone does this today and actually wins something significant, way more than what their initial investment is.

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Quote from: acroman08 on January 21, 2021, 09:41:49 PM

sorry for asking again but is there any reason why these numbers are the least likely to be drawn? assuming that the lottery is fair shouldn't all the numbers have the same percentage of being picked?
it would be interesting if there is an article saying the reason why these numbers are the least likely to be drawn.

I guess they based it off on the previous results of the lottery, there's really no way to tell which numbers are going to be less likely picked than the rest.

Quote from: Distinctin on January 21, 2021, 07:24:46 PM

This method will not work now, betting on lottery is define as flashing your money in the toilet, that means you are just wasting your money when you are betting on lottery due to slim chances and there's no way we can exploit it. Gambling will always be popular as there are bettors who are willing to take the risk just to fulfill their dreams to win, but with the technology nowadays, it's easy for them to compute their chances and they'll not allow it to be exploited.

I agree their strategy won't work now but I think the difference is more on the set of rules than the technology since I remember some of the lottery winners manage to pull it off by taking advantage of the limited set of rules.

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I think I heard this before.

There is this Facebook page discussing amazing things and this is one of them. It is quite amazing and as far as I know, they are banned in a certain place because of what they are doing. Still, they generated a lot of profits that, based on the narration of the video, have a lot of investors at that time to fund that activity.

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Quote from: Darker45 on January 21, 2021, 11:46:48 PM

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I guess nobody was determined enough to create a syndicate to make it possible unlike the story in the OP.

^ Probably you are right. Unless if that syndicate can manipulate the result of the lotto result or have an inside job to manipulate the near possible result and only have a few combinations. The OP story will probably need more cash to set as a capital buying those tickets of all combinations, I dont know if you will miss in a draw and you had to lose already thousands of dollars.
We know how risky betting of the lottery, the chances are very slim, you dont have a guarantee to win even though jow many tickets you have if you dont have luck in your life.

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This story made be remember way back in college when a certain national state-sponsored lottery was not won for several consecutive weeks. The pot money ballooned to almost a billion in Philippine peso. It grew so huge that almost everybody is already betting, trying to grab a chance of that unbelievable wealth. Even wealthy politicians and celebrities are buying number combinations as well. Very long queues are noticed in every lottery ticketing outlet.

My statistics professor at that time made a computation. Even if you place a bet on all the number combinations, you would still end up profitable. But the problem was how to make it possible filling out millions and millions of lottery cards, each to be read by a machine, each to be issued a receipt, and so on. But it could have been won legally.

I guess nobody was determined enough to create a syndicate to make it possible unlike the story in the OP.

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If a syndicate does that with many people inside, they can win the lottery because they can combine them and buy tickets in huge numbers. Even if there are limitations for one person to buy the tickets, if the syndicate has many people, they will get the big number of the tickets, so they will have a chance to win. It is still worth it for them because the prizes are huge to win, but the house will not let them win many times as they will be suspicious that if they see the same person buy the tickets in a large amount of the tickets.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 21, 2021, 06:44:43 PM

Least likely numbers to be drawn, 1-2-3-4-5-6, 1-3-6-12-24-36, etc.

sorry for asking again but is there any reason why these numbers are the least likely to be drawn? assuming that the lottery is fair shouldn't all the numbers have the same percentage of being picked?
it would be interesting if there is an article saying the reason why these numbers are the least likely to be drawn.

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Least likely numbers to be drawn, 1-2-3-4-5-6, 1-3-6-12-24-36, etc.

There is no such thing in a fair lottery.

Assuming the lottery is not rigged, and every number has an exactly identical chance of being drawn as every other number, then any combination of digits is just as likely as any other combination of digits. 1-2-3-4-5-6 is just as likely as 6 seemingly "random" and unconnected numbers. There is no combination which is more or less likely to win.

I thought so too, that's why I was so confused when they said "least likely combination" and ask what they meant about it.

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A sure win in this strategy but that means that it is also not that easy to execute. As far as I know, there are a lot of regulations or limits when it comes to these lotteries. For example, having a limit to certain tickets an individual can buy. Some buyers of tickets even thought of this strategy as a cheat but for me, it is not a cheat the fact that you are just increasing your chances of winning.

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This method will not work now, betting on lottery is define as flashing your money in the toilet, that means you are just wasting your money when you are betting on lottery due to slim chances and there's no way we can exploit it. Gambling will always be popular as there are bettors who are willing to take the risk just to fulfill their dreams to win, but with the technology nowadays, it's easy for them to compute their chances and they'll not allow it to be exploited.

To my knowledge, Lottery is the type of gambling where it's the hardest way of winning.

You can gamble in your lifetime and yet no guarantee that you'll at least hit a win one time.

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Quote from: acroman08 on January 21, 2021, 06:26:02 PM

what does the "least likely combination" meant? do they mean the least likely to win or least likely to be picked by other lotto buyers?

although the story sounds good it is incredibly risky(at least for me) even if they got about 82% of the combination. I wonder if they did this again or if the lotto company(not sure what they are called) placed a rule or preventive measures to prevent this kind of thing happening again.

And if the winning combination is out of the picture from their selected combinations?
This is really high risk to take. One can't tell the "least likely combination" in a lotto.
This is pure chance or based on luck, so hard to predict the most likely combination here.
A tedious task to embark on. Will just work instead. At least that's for sure money at the end. Wink

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Quote from: aoluain on January 21, 2021, 06:44:43 PM

Least likely numbers to be drawn, 1-2-3-4-5-6, 1-3-6-12-24-36, etc.

There is no such thing in a fair lottery.

Assuming the lottery is not rigged, and every number has an exactly identical chance of being drawn as every other number, then any combinations of digits is just as likely as any other combination of digits. 1-2-3-4-5-6 is just as likely as 6 seemingly "random" and unconnected numbers. There is no combination which is more or less likely to win.

Yes, that is right. You can never tell in a lottery.
Because that's lottery. Every number has equal chance to be picked at.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 21, 2021, 06:44:43 PM

Least likely numbers to be drawn, 1-2-3-4-5-6, 1-3-6-12-24-36, etc.

There is no such thing in a fair lottery.

Assuming the lottery is not rigged, and every number has an exactly identical chance of being drawn as every other number, then any combination of digits is just as likely as any other combination of digits. 1-2-3-4-5-6 is just as likely as 6 seemingly "random" and unconnected numbers. There is no combination which is more or less likely to win.

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Quote from: boyptc on January 21, 2021, 05:23:22 PM

I've never thought that actually this kind of strategy in my fantasy has ever existed. But doing the strategy will really cost them money at first and it's a big syndicate back then having that amount because inflation wasn't yet a big deal by that time.

Do you think this time that a group of people will remake this strategy? for me, I don't think that there will be.

No it cannot be done again, the Lotto company increased the amount of numbers,
so the amount of combinations increase!

First it was a 6 numbers out of 36, then they expanded to 39, now it is 47!

Quote from: acroman08 on January 21, 2021, 06:26:02 PM

what does the "least likely combination" meant? do they mean the least likely to win or least likely to be picked by other lotto buyers?

although the story sounds good it is incredibly risky(at least for me) even if they got about 82% of the combination. I wonder if they did this again or if the lotto company(not sure what they are called) placed a rule or preventive measures to prevent this kind of thing happening again.

Least likely numbers to be drawn, 1-2-3-4-5-6, 1-3-6-12-24-36, etc. Stefan was very good
with numbers, he was/is a businessman, I actually cannot find any information about him.

Quote from: Botnake on January 21, 2021, 06:34:48 PM

I don't get the logic, how can one win the lottery if they buy all the combinations when there's a house a huge house edge.

What about those bettors who have already buy the tickets?

I think this is crazy, maybe it worked in the past but I think in the recent days it will not anymore work and I also I believe no one is doing this experiment anymore, or have even tried.

At the time the normal jackpot would not have been so high, at the time the jackpot
was not won for the previous 2 draws so the jackpot was multiplied. They were unfortunate
because they only got £588,000 share of the jackpot, but they got alot of the rewards for
matching 4 and 5 numbers.

It wouldnt work now.

They were lucky !

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I don't get the logic, how can one win the lottery if they buy all the combinations when there's a house a huge house edge.

What about those bettors who have already buy the tickets?

I think this is crazy, maybe it worked in the past but I think in the recent days it will not anymore work and I also I believe no one is doing this experiment anymore, or have even tried.

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what does the "least likely combination" meant? do they mean the least likely to win or least likely to be picked by other lotto buyers?

although the story sounds good it is incredibly risky(at least for me) even if they got about 82% of the combination. I wonder if they did this again or if the lotto company(not sure what they are called) placed a rule or preventive measures to prevent this kind of thing happening again.

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I've never thought that actually this kind of strategy in my fantasy has ever existed. But doing the strategy will really cost them money at first and it's a big syndicate back then having that amount because inflation wasn't yet a big deal by that time.

Do you think this time that a group of people will remake this strategy? for me, I don't think that there will be.

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Apologies guys, i totally forgot to attach the news article, I have it listed at
the bottom of the OP and here >
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/how-a-secret-syndicate-managed-to-buy-the-lotto-35981173.html

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Quote from: Lanatsa on January 21, 2021, 03:07:57 PM

You should at least put up some source link about this topic and I do made out some search and I found which things you've bee talking into.

https://thehustle.co/the-man-who-won-the-lottery-14-times . Man who had able to win lottery for how many times, they do all buy all the possible

lottery combinations and making lottery wins into business.If we do read up the article it would really be explaining everything.

There is already a thread which the topic is this. Man won 12 times in lottery and who had been talking about Stefan mandel.You are right that OP should put up some source links for him to avoid some problems later on about this forums rules about copy pasting article contents without posting up the source because you would end up on having that copy-pasting.
So better be aware or else you would get banned.Back on topic on hitting those lotto combinations then its actually possible but the question is that this do really need big capital where it means that you do need lots of
people that would be funding you up on buying all possible combinations on that lottery game.

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