Topic: Buy the DIP, and HODL! - page 193. (Read 135440 times)

Buy Bitcoin and HODL It's like having a well rounded discussion that covers various strategies in purchasing bitcoin, not just focusing on one. Different perspectives and approaches can enrich the conversation and help everyone learn more about Bitcoin accumulation. It's all about finding the right path between different strategies to make the most out of your investments. Buy The DIP and HODL refers to a strategy in particular and in this thread other strategies like DCA are often mentioned. Buy Bitcoin and HODL every one seeing the thread will know specifically its bitcoin discussion not including other Altcoin, shitcoins, it's all about accumulating Bitcoin efficiently and effectively. Keeping the focus on buying Bitcoin and holding onto it for the long term, It's necessary to explore different approaches to make the most out of your Bitcoin.

Your opinion is valid, this thread have been a lot of help to lots of people on this forum not just newbies but also bitcoin enthusiasts benefit from the discussion held here. Accumulating bitcoin is not really very easy for people anymore especially since it price has increased over the years so alot of strategies have been into play and has helped people in their journey, buying the dip played it part well and now it will be even more helpful if other accumulation strategy are being discussed too as no accumulation strategy can be written off.



A while ago i saw “Buy Bitcoin and HODL!” and just now i am reading a different title. You are right it’s merely a title and whichever one you name it will not stop the discussion and the aim of the post, the most important thing is to keep accumulating and HODLing for as long as possible so nothing changed. Truly this topic have been of great help to the entire community and as long as bitcoin exists this thread will be great importance to people.

I actually don't know what the problem is with the change to be frank. It's merely a title. But because many people in the topic wanted the title before "Buy Bitcoin, and HODL", then I could change it back as easily as I changed it before. It's not as important as some of the more informative posts made by many of you in this topic. I truly hope many of you are HODLing, and will have enough Bitcoin savings for the rest of your lives once Bitcoin surges to six digits.

That your motion should not be granted and that motion should be put one side. Yes the Op created the thread and no one is disputing that fact, but don't forget that the thread was created for the public and because of that the community has a say when they feel that something is going in the direction that they don't like. If this thread remain the way it is and the people are losing interest in it do you think it will benefit anyone? The leaders of every organization, be it private or public are there to serve their community, if they bring any policy that the people think is not okay with them they will voice out their concerns and seek for redress. It is very obvious that majority of the active users of this thread are kicking against the change of name of the thread.

The Op has to look at the complaints of the users and act accordingly, provided that what the people are asking for doesn't go against the rules of the forum or goes against the principles of bitcoin investment. We just want to have a sense of belonging where our voices are heard. Even bitcoin belong to the masses and the masses use it the way they want, let us not feel as if we are in a centralized system were the leaders can just do things on their own without considering the feedback from their community.

Is good you change it to the previous title because is not just a title it represents a lot in our investment mindset because in as much as I accumulate on weekly bases but whenever I visit this thread only the name alone becomes a motivation to me because it keeps reminding me how important and consistent I need to be on my accumulation of Bitcoin to enable me have a sufficient amount of Bitcoin in the future which is the reason why I said this thread or rather title represent a lot in most people investment, perhaps that sometimes a title may not actually mean anything to most people but for some persons it means so much for them.

Yes it's commendable to continue with this title as it has created several awareness and has made it way if popularity in the forum and in the mind of investor and newbies I puzzle the first time I enter the forum after the renamed if the thread, it's by wisdom and regular participating of the forum made me understand it's actually the thread just as many has outline which I may not repeat allot of similar thread exist in forum which may contradict a newbie who is not too familiar in navigating the forum when several thread of similarities exist and Even been changed without any notice to the users, I said thank for the return of the formal name.

I'm so happy you changed the topic back to what it was before this thread will be more interesting and impactful especially to we the newbies, it was through the thread a lot of people choosed the strategy they are using in there Bitcoin accumulation and I believe without the DIP in this topic those discussion of different strategy won't come up.
I want to use this opportunity to thank everyone who has been participating very well in this thread and a special thanks to you Wind_FURY for creating such a wonderful topic has changed a lot of negative mindset and helped especially we the newbies and I will also love to thank JayJuanGee for all his wonderful contributions to this thread a lot of use the newbies always enjoy reading your write up it is so impactful.

I believe it was,

Re: Buy every dip!
Re: Buy every dip, and HODL!
Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL!


Then the latest, Re: Buy Bitcoin, and HODL!


OK, at first I told myself that why is changing the title of the topic so unpopular - it's merely a title. I felt there was some pressure towards me to change it back to "Buy the DIP, and HODL". But why would I be pressured if it's merely a title?

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Changed.

I feel you guys are reading much meaning into what doesn't matter, for those who has been engaging in this thread will have the basic knowledge on what the thread is talking about, we have been on the discussion about Bitcoin accumulation and we have induced some approaches like DCAing, Buying the Dip, when to lump sum and many more patterns. It's a general thread discussion all on how to accumulate Bitcoin easier, faster and more convenient, so using just one approach as the topic thread is not appropriate whereas other methods are still discussed in it. In everything we do, our primary goal for the thread is all about to Buy Bitcoin, and Hold.

@richbase you have made your point very clear which is quite understandable, but you also need to pay attention to what the op of this thread said in his statement earlier, he said that the reason he changed the topic of this thread to buy Bitcoin and hold was that, recently in this thread, it was made clear to him by we, the participants of this thread that the DCA accumulating strategy was way better than buying only the dip, so that's why he changed it to buy Bitcoin and hold.

But I really buy the idea of what @amicablecrypto said, he said that the dip needs to be part of the discussion, so it wouldn't be nice if it was taken out of the discussion entirely, and I also share the same sentiment with him, the floor of discussion should be open about buying the deep and buying through the DCA accumulating strategy, then it will be left for you as an individual to choose which one that suit you the most

You are right @Samlucky O, continuous change of the heading in the OP wasn't necessary at all but however, sometimes a thread can be moving away from it's original contents in the OP or from the topic of discussion then the OP can decide to change the topic as times goes depending if users making replies are starting to digress from the initial topic of the OP but in this regard, the numerous editing of the OP are all in line with the discussions in this thread even though it wasn't necessary, hence there is no cause for an alam inasmuch as our discussions here is not deviated from each changes made by the Original poster therefore i move the motion that the debate of OP changing the topic of discussion should be put to an abrupt end so that it doesn't distract people from making further discussions on the purpose in which this thread was created. My humble opinion

I was a bit confused when I want to check the buy the dip and hold thread, I discovered that the original name has changed, it took me some time to confirm that it's the actual thread. Sometimes before people should do something they should consider the effect of such before doing it. Apart from being confused of the original thread, the other one is that it can be misleeding by changing the content of the thread even if it looks almost thesame, but it can still be misleeding expecially when most places has the coment buy the dip and checking some place buy every dip and so on. I am also using this medium as a plead to wind fury that this thread has gone so far to be tampered with otherwise it will make people confused from the intended meaning which has started some months or years back. Let me show you the changes you have made in this thread over time@wind fury
Re: Buy every dip!
Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL!
Re: Buy every dip, and HODL!
Re: Buy Bitcoin, and HODL!
So you can take a look at it for yourself @wind fury, I just think you return this thread to buy the dip and HODl which has created a popularity and dominated in the forum and has captivated the minds of people here.

You are not alone buddy, I am also one of the people who just noticed the title change above, I just came back to the forum after a month of being busy to finish my main job. The title change above made it difficult for me to find the word "DIP" which is usually very easy for me to find, but this afternoon I really had to use my glasses to look at it in detail and make sure that I really didn't find the title "DIP and HODL".

There is actually no significant change in meaning in the matter of changing the title above, "Buy Bitcoin and HODL" remains a good suggestion or reminder, but I don't see other suggestions that could be more profitable in the context of the title, unlike when we read the original title in this thread, "Buy DIP, and HODL" which not only invites / advises us to buy but also reminds us to buy "during the decline" to increase the chances of profit.

I stick with my original comments.  I see no reason to change the title...... at least taking out the buy the dip part of it, since that is a contrasting idea.  Your earliest edition was merely buy the dip, and then you added HODL. later.. yet I also don't see much difference between buy the dip and buy every dip.. and the inclusion of the idea of HODL .. does not interfere with the overall sentiment, since there surely can be reasons to just reverting to HODL (which is don't sell, and maybe even don't buy more since you are running out of money).. so sometimes HODL does come into play whether we are talking about the BTC price going up or down or sideways, there can be various reasons for HODL to be triggered... including sometimes loss of confidence during extended sideways periods.

Also, even though DCA has been talked about a lot in this thread and also lump sum versus DCA, I don't consider those to be conflicting ideas or even needing to be stated in the thread topic, which you had already gotten correct with your wanting to push the idea of buying the dip.. especially in the beginning, and there is nothing wrong with having that idea continue to be contained in the motivation of the topic since so many folks are still going to be weighing what they should do.. should they buy BTC right now or should they buy on the dip (that may or may not end up happening)...   

You surely have argued quite convincingly in the past that there still could end up being times when buying the dip may well be better than DCA'ing, even though I continue to argue that buying the dip mostly becomes better when someone has already accumulated a decent amount of BTC (whether that be through lump sum, front-loading or just having a decent amount of time already in the market in which they might have accumulated a decent amount of BTC stash or even be in a position of over-accumulation compared to the rest of their finances and/or psychology).


I am not just talking about the present, but the idea of buy the dip was included in the thread historically, so the last more than 5 years of the threads existence, so not having the idea of "buy the dip" in the title may way contribute towards confusion in terms of the discussion points and/or emphases in many of the earlier posts that might well have had been weighing the idea of buying the dip with other possible actions that might be considered.. whether that might be, DCA, lump sum, front-loading and/or HODLing... hopefully not selling, even though some members would bring up selling too.. so those members were clearly seeming to deviate into off-topicness.. especially if they were proposing selling BTC as a potential means to accumulate more BTC.


That is part of the problem of changing the title. rather than just leaving it. .since I had mentioned earlier that the idea of "buying the dip" surely is an evergreen one that really does not need to change, since the idea always is part of the considerations of anyone who might be considering accumulating bitcoin or accumulating more bitcoin.

Already this thread would have been locked before now but due to the fact that newbies bump into this thread almost on daily basis makes it so difficult to lock this thread because they can't be denied the knowledge they wish to know in this thread and for the fact that @ JayJuanGee is also open to responding to discussions in this thread also makes it more lively and interesting because if not that he has been very active in this thread, who knows it would have died a natural death just like some other threads did, let's just thank @ JayJuanGee for his devotion in attending to this thread even though some discussions may look like a repetition but since it is a very voluminous thread, not every one can easily get the information they needed to know from previous replies and if am not mistaken this is one of the oldest active thread in the Speculation section after the  Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion that was created by @infofront in April 2013.
                          And just like you said the discussions of various methods and strategies of investing in Bitcoin cannot really stop since majority of us are still accumulating Bitcoins. I think the heading of this thread should be a thing of debate anymore whether it is 'buy the DIP and HODL' or just buy Bitcoin and HODL as the most important thing is not only about following discussion here but also being practical about it as that is the only way we all can grow together is our Bitcoin investment journey.

I prefer the topic in this manner it's more suitable to discuss, the shift in the topic narrows down from a specific tactic to a more general approach in bitcoin investment, buying bitcoin and hodl is more straight forward  on buying Bitcoin specifically (rather than other cryptocurrencies). "Buy the Dip and HODL" generally refers to the strategy of purchasing bitcoin in its price dips or declines, and then holding onto it for the long term. On the other hand, "Buy Bitcoin" encompasses all the strategies for acquiring Bitcoin, while So Buy Bitcoin is like the big umbrella term covering all methods of acquiring Bitcoin e.g DCA, buy during dip, lump sum/ front-loading while Buy the Dip is a more targeted approach within that umbrella, emphasizing the strategy of buying during price dips specifically. Most time in our discussion we do refer to other strategies also it's better that the topic changes from Buy the Dip and HODL to Buy Bitcoin and HODL that makes sense, It's great to have a broader umbrella topic that can encompass all the different strategies for buying Bitcoin. This way we can dive into various approaches and tactics within Bitcoin investments. It provides a more comprehensive view of the strategies available for acquiring and holding onto Bitcoin for long-term growth.

Initially, I supported Wind_FURY when he changed the name of this thread from buy the dip and hodl to buy bitcoin and hodl because it got to a point where some people were mostly concerned about buying the dip, even when they didn't have enough money to buy the dip, which could make some newbies think it is better to accumulate bitcoin in a dip. But as time went on, I noticed the conversation in this thread had reduced since the name of the thread was changed. The discussion of buying the dip contributed a lot to the growth of this thread and the knowledge that was shared in this thread. A lot of people have gained knowledge and know the strategy to apply in some situations to seize the opportunity if a dip happens. I agree with you that the name of this thread should be changed to buy the dip and hodl if it's possible.

Like I said Buying "Every Dip" should be a choice and decision of the buyer and not mandatory to buy Every DIP.
Besides, we shouldn't be debating too much about the topics as we're  deviating from the purpose  of the thread itself.. not to mention that we are going [off]. The balls are in the court of OP but I don't think it will be a good idea changing topics all the time

Buying Every dip and hodl?, To me sounds like we are only encouraging the buying of Bitcoin only when there is a dip. Then what has been the purpose of those strategies that've been discussed so far under this thread?. Just like you said, newbies might think, waiting to buy every dip is a smart strategy that the majority do. Even though Dip is a good thing to acquire more units of Bitcoin at a good price, but we should still understand that dips does not happen at all time. There are times when the entire market condition changes, and we begin to experience upward movements, then do we have to sit and wait for the next dip?. Except the op would want to keep changing the topic based on current happenings.

I guess its not important to discuss about title change since it will not change anything nor contribute to the learnings of people. What's important in this thread is the discussion of people about their HODL plans also the methods and other suggestion that can help people to learn a lot of things about investment on bitcoin.

The current title of the thread is fine and I don't also see the need of changing it since maybe it will just confuse the readers especially if you name it Buy every dip and Hodl since newbies might think about that they should wait for the dip to accumulate since this is wrong thinking to do.

But if that's what majority wants then let it be, since we all know majority votes always win.