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March 19, 2024, 05:27:05 AM
Look at the market today compared to where it was last week it is down $10k it presents a perfect
opportunity to get some FIAT into Bitcoin during the dip. Dont wait to try and time the absolute bottom,
be thankful of the discount which is presented now

funny enough, those that could not buy last week because of excuses will not still buy now that Bitcoin price is down by $10k. It has never been about how well you time the market before buying, it is more about setting how you want to be buying on a regular bases and remaining with that strategy. Early this year, Bitcoin was at a serious dip and was down by at least $30k compared to the $72k it got to some days back and somany persons didn't buy and I guess they are still waiting for Bitcoin to drop back to $30k before buying.

This is one advantage of buying with the DCA methord. Even though you buy by January when Bitcoin was around   $40 and  February when it went too high to $62k and also at the new ATH when it went to $73k, if you continue with this trend foe the next ten years, you will still be in good profit because when you've finally taken the average at the end of the ten year interval, you will still be in profit because a new ATH would obviously emerge and the value of bitcoin at the time would have have double it curent worth possibly.
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March 19, 2024, 04:56:05 AM
Look at the market today compared to where it was last week it is down $10k it presents a perfect
opportunity to get some FIAT into Bitcoin during the dip. Dont wait to try and time the absolute bottom,
be thankful of the discount which is presented now.

It just goes to show that the Bitcoin market always presents corrections and dips for everyone and anyone
to divert more FIAT. DCA can be practiced anytime and can be doubled up when there is a dip.

Interestingly I have been told yesterday that the ETF's generally dont buy during a dip, they apply typical
traditional market sentiment to the Bitcoin market and would see the current dip as a "Major Crash",
Anyone else hear about that? I wonder do they fear that the market could fall even further?
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March 19, 2024, 04:46:11 AM
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The point is that DCA must not be applied by individuals with regular incomes, even those with incomes that are not regular can apply the DCA method.

That's right, I agree with that method. To start DCA it is not necessary to have a fixed income - if someone has an income only once in a while, if he is good at managing his finances, he can set aside a part of his income to be able to carry out DCA for some time. Even though this is quite difficult for some people, if the person is consistent and able to manage their finances well, it shouldn't be a problem for them.
Investing in DCA method will make our investment much easier if we have a fixed source of income. Because when we invest with any money but we have to hold it ie we have to deposit that money. Even if we want to but we can't withdraw that money because we have already invested in Bitcoin if we withdraw that investment money then our investment journey will not be successful. For this we need to have a separate source of income from which we can use money for our necessary expenses.And we need to make a plan so that we can invest a certain amount of money in bitcoins on a monthly basis.
DCA method creates many benefits for investment for those who are new or old in the market. DCA is a safe method especially for those who are new and less experienced in the investment sector. Even if the newbie doesn't understand the market continuity from the beginning, using only one coin like Bitcoin DCA method will not harm his investment journey. Investing in the DCA system can become a threat if one's personal needs and family needs are compromised. It is important to have an additional income stream to keep the DCA system going so that both personal life and investment streams continue.
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March 19, 2024, 01:35:44 AM
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The point is that DCA must not be applied by individuals with regular incomes, even those with incomes that are not regular can apply the DCA method.

That's right, I agree with that method. To start DCA it is not necessary to have a fixed income - if someone has an income only once in a while, if he is good at managing his finances, he can set aside a part of his income to be able to carry out DCA for some time. Even though this is quite difficult for some people, if the person is consistent and able to manage their finances well, it shouldn't be a problem for them.
Investing in DCA method will make our investment much easier if we have a fixed source of income. Because when we invest with any money but we have to hold it ie we have to deposit that money. Even if we want to but we can't withdraw that money because we have already invested in Bitcoin if we withdraw that investment money then our investment journey will not be successful. For this we need to have a separate source of income from which we can use money for our necessary expenses.And we need to make a plan so that we can invest a certain amount of money in bitcoins on a monthly basis.
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March 19, 2024, 01:06:01 AM
Many times some of the newbie's investor mistake Bitcoin investment to be like some form of scheme that offers big short terms profits regardless of how much the Bitcoin holding is, I guess a big bag holder can easily get a quick return but not someone that is setting aside just 10% to 20% of his monthly income into Bitcoin.
as much as we know that the quantity of our starched bitcoin determines how profitable our investment is, the decision to allocate up to 20% of our earnings or above is totally dependent on individual bases. There are people that are very stable financially and probably have double streams of income, they can decide to invest as high as 40% to 50% of thier monthly profit and if they can still do well in their business and personal life after allocating such portion of thier profit into Bitcoin investments, then making such decision will be to thier advantage. But for the context of this thread that brings together new investors that are still skeptical about a lot of things and might probably want to start off their DCA methord with an amount that's convenient for them, 10% isn't a bad start. old investors that can go as high as 40% because of thier level of belief and financial strength are still right on track. it's necessary we always create a balance between individuals level of knowledge and level of financial strength so everyone will stick with what applies well for them and not end up gambling with his investment.

The thing is to be flexible enough to know when you've grown past certain level and that's when the need to increase your quantity of starched Bitcoin becomes a necessity. For those that are already in the Bitcoin ecosystem for a while, no one needs to educate them regarding the relationship between the quantity of there starch Bitcoin and the amount of profit they intend to get out of their investment so putting in additional effort to increase the percentage allocation to our DCA routine is actually the right way to go.
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March 18, 2024, 10:13:23 PM
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The point is that DCA must not be applied by individuals with regular incomes, even those with incomes that are not regular can apply the DCA method.

That's right, I agree with that method. To start DCA it is not necessary to have a fixed income - if someone has an income only once in a while, if he is good at managing his finances, he can set aside a part of his income to be able to carry out DCA for some time. Even though this is quite difficult for some people, if the person is consistent and able to manage their finances well, it shouldn't be a problem for them.
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March 18, 2024, 09:18:49 PM
There seem to be decently good chances that BTC prices will reach $80k and even $100k prior to the halvening, yet at the same time, none of us know, and if we are not trading and if we are still accumulating BTC, then we might prefer that the BTC price does not go up as fast, so that we can buy more BTC... So yeah, guys have to choose how much BTC to buy and to continue to buy and the dilemma is not necessarily going to get any better because there might still continue to be logic to continue to buy, and some uncertainties regarding whether dips will continue to happen or to come down to the level of current prices at a later date.
well you're actually right, i don't actually want price of Bitcoin to go up fast, because I haven't gotten enough or good quantities yet. Because if bitcoin price began to increase fast it would be difficult to accumulate much quantity in your portfolio. Like  for instance some one with the DCAing amount of $50 weekly , when the price was still in the price range of $30k , such individual would be able to purchase 0.00166 BTC with his $50 weekly . But now the price around $60k and such individual purchase is weekly DCAing with that same price which is $50 he or she would be able to purchase 0.000833 BTC weekly and that how the quantity (of Bitcoin accumulating by that same user with that same amount ($50) ) would keep reducing as bitcoin price keep increasing make it inversely proportional.

I lost a friend in the cold hands of death because he failed to take care of health. His mind is always investing in bitcoin with the little money he regularly gets from his workplace, making him forget that his body system needs to rest and to be taken care of.
That is a good point. We have to make sure that we invest into bitcoin with our time, energy and value in an amount that still allows us to experience our regular life, too, and yeah, to take care of our body and our mind as part of our routine (or our daily practices that have a decent diet, a sufficient amount of sleep and some exercise and/or other activities).
exactly, that why one have to invest according to his financial capability, without over doing it to an extent, of it affecting our regular life style . That why I always but this to Mind whenever any users mentioned that your bitcoin accummulation should be around the range of 4-10 years, I know it might be long but it would give one enough time to keep accumulating bitcoin without over doing it, limiting one self from his regular life style activities. Because alot of users at there lack a proper planning that would lead to them using alot of percentage of their income to accumulate more bitcoin limiting themselves from their regular life activities in order to meet a certain goal of accumulating bitcoin pretty fast without knowing it come with alot of causes . That most users here always advice to always Share your funds using percentage. Some percentage for accumulating bitcoin, while some for emergency funds (which should be an priority) allocating most of the percentage in your emergency funds.

The importance of healthy living can not be overemphasize, because nothing absolutely can be compared with our healthy living and it is part that leads to a happy and fulfilled life. In as much keeping up with our investment is important it is also essential in investing in our health as a case of necessity which it's enormous benefits are too numerous to mention in all ramifications of life let alone towards investment. Health is wealth and not prioritizing taking care of your health can lead to lack of that physical and mental abilities that is needed to grow your asset. A man who is saving up to build a mansion an and forgot to take care of his health may not live  to see the fulfilment of his dreams. It is best learning from other people mistakes.
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March 18, 2024, 08:52:06 PM
I am giving this advice because one health comes first and it should be taken care of. I lost a friend in the cold hands of death because he failed to take care of health. His mind is always investing in bitcoin with the little money he regularly gets from his workplace, making him forget that his body system needs to rest and to be taken care of.
Am sorry for your friend departure, but one thing I will like to say is that btc investment should not deprive anybody from taken good care of him or her self. You know people always misinterprete things and do things there own way , not knowing they are putting more problem to themselves.  Anybody who knows the concept of bitcoin Investment should have known buy now that Bitcoin investmet should be done in such a manner that It would not affect you physically, psychologically, emotional, health and otherwise. On several occasions when people tend to do there investmet plan by assuming to invest %50 or %40 of there investment @JJG always make reference of investing as low as %10 or %5 of there investment in other no to deprive themselves of there privacy and and family expenses or even touching there emergency fund. I believe if you friend was able to have participated in this thread or you changed his orientation on his investment strategy maybe he wouldn't have been death. What he lacks was Orientation on investment plan.

Thee is what they called self orientation. And this self orientation of an individual may end up misleading the person thinking it's the best life principle not knowing it is just a path way to quick ending. There was also a related story of someone who was working and saving money but not properly taken care of his body because he was saving money for an important thing, not knowing his life is more important than any other thing. But due to his ignorant of not taking proper care of him self, he had complications of malnutrition and lacks blood and other things which led to his total breakdown. He was forced to spend his entire savings to quick up his recovery in the hospital. After then he was alive but has no fund. So my advice to anyone is to take proper care of him/herself because if anything happens to you out of not talking proper care of yourself it might Leed to death or a serious problem that may eat up your entire bitcoin holding. There is an addage in my dialect which says" enwhe kuwa iri Dia ya onu kabu nka" meaning that monkey says the food he has in its mouth is not his own, a hunter may end his life at anytime but the one in his stomach is his own. So the good health we have is our health even as we HODL let's take care of ourselves.
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March 18, 2024, 05:54:13 PM
There seem to be decently good chances that BTC prices will reach $80k and even $100k prior to the halvening, yet at the same time, none of us know, and if we are not trading and if we are still accumulating BTC, then we might prefer that the BTC price does not go up as fast, so that we can buy more BTC... So yeah, guys have to choose how much BTC to buy and to continue to buy and the dilemma is not necessarily going to get any better because there might still continue to be logic to continue to buy, and some uncertainties regarding whether dips will continue to happen or to come down to the level of current prices at a later date.
well you're actually right, i don't actually want price of Bitcoin to go up fast, because I haven't gotten enough or good quantities yet. Because if bitcoin price began to increase fast it would be difficult to accumulate much quantity in your portfolio. Like  for instance some one with the DCAing amount of $50 weekly , when the price was still in the price range of $30k , such individual would be able to purchase 0.00166 BTC with his $50 weekly . But now the price around $60k and such individual purchase is weekly DCAing with that same price which is $50 he or she would be able to purchase 0.000833 BTC weekly and that how the quantity (of Bitcoin accumulating by that same user with that same amount ($50) ) would keep reducing as bitcoin price keep increasing make it inversely proportional.

I lost a friend in the cold hands of death because he failed to take care of health. His mind is always investing in bitcoin with the little money he regularly gets from his workplace, making him forget that his body system needs to rest and to be taken care of.
That is a good point. We have to make sure that we invest into bitcoin with our time, energy and value in an amount that still allows us to experience our regular life, too, and yeah, to take care of our body and our mind as part of our routine (or our daily practices that have a decent diet, a sufficient amount of sleep and some exercise and/or other activities).
exactly, that why one have to invest according to his financial capability, without over doing it to an extent, of it affecting our regular life style . That why I always but this to Mind whenever any users mentioned that your bitcoin accummulation should be around the range of 4-10 years, I know it might be long but it would give one enough time to keep accumulating bitcoin without over doing it, limiting one self from his regular life style activities. Because alot of users at there lack a proper planning that would lead to them using alot of percentage of their income to accumulate more bitcoin limiting themselves from their regular life activities in order to meet a certain goal of accumulating bitcoin pretty fast without knowing it come with alot of causes . That most users here always advice to always Share your funds using percentage. Some percentage for accumulating bitcoin, while some for emergency funds (which should be an priority) allocating most of the percentage in your emergency funds.
We all know that to get the best at Bitcoin an investor need to have a long term view in mind right from the beginning, because as early you start being aggressive in your Bitcoin investment the better and also because at that point the price of Bitcoin is low and that way you get in at an advantageous time that put you on profits, but also I guess the 10% allocation is too small to set the investors out to reach retirement stage and earlier time.


Many times some of the newbie's investor mistake Bitcoin investment to be like some form of scheme that offers big short terms profits regardless of how much the Bitcoin holding is, I guess a big bag holder can easily get a quick return but not someone that is setting aside just 10% to 20% of his monthly income into Bitcoin.
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March 18, 2024, 04:52:32 PM
There seem to be decently good chances that BTC prices will reach $80k and even $100k prior to the halvening, yet at the same time, none of us know, and if we are not trading and if we are still accumulating BTC, then we might prefer that the BTC price does not go up as fast, so that we can buy more BTC... So yeah, guys have to choose how much BTC to buy and to continue to buy and the dilemma is not necessarily going to get any better because there might still continue to be logic to continue to buy, and some uncertainties regarding whether dips will continue to happen or to come down to the level of current prices at a later date.
well you're actually right, i don't actually want price of Bitcoin to go up fast, because I haven't gotten enough or good quantities yet. Because if bitcoin price began to increase fast it would be difficult to accumulate much quantity in your portfolio. Like  for instance some one with the DCAing amount of $50 weekly , when the price was still in the price range of $30k , such individual would be able to purchase 0.00166 BTC with his $50 weekly . But now the price around $60k and such individual purchase is weekly DCAing with that same price which is $50 he or she would be able to purchase 0.000833 BTC weekly and that how the quantity (of Bitcoin accumulating by that same user with that same amount ($50) ) would keep reducing as bitcoin price keep increasing make it inversely proportional.

I lost a friend in the cold hands of death because he failed to take care of health. His mind is always investing in bitcoin with the little money he regularly gets from his workplace, making him forget that his body system needs to rest and to be taken care of.
That is a good point. We have to make sure that we invest into bitcoin with our time, energy and value in an amount that still allows us to experience our regular life, too, and yeah, to take care of our body and our mind as part of our routine (or our daily practices that have a decent diet, a sufficient amount of sleep and some exercise and/or other activities).
exactly, that why one have to invest according to his financial capability, without over doing it to an extent, of it affecting our regular life style . That why I always but this to Mind whenever any users mentioned that your bitcoin accummulation should be around the range of 4-10 years, I know it might be long but it would give one enough time to keep accumulating bitcoin without over doing it, limiting one self from his regular life style activities. Because alot of users at there lack a proper planning that would lead to them using alot of percentage of their income to accumulate more bitcoin limiting themselves from their regular life activities in order to meet a certain goal of accumulating bitcoin pretty fast without knowing it come with alot of causes . That most users here always advice to always Share your funds using percentage. Some percentage for accumulating bitcoin, while some for emergency funds (which should be an priority) allocating most of the percentage in your emergency funds.
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March 18, 2024, 03:42:59 PM
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Honestly, Apart from a four years halving pattern that might technically make a four years investment reasonable to some extent, I believe good and profitable investment should last up to the range of  eight years and above

Don't get me wrong, I am not even recommending that guys have such short investment time horizons as 4-10 years, and that is why I phrase my suggestion that getting into bitcoin should have a 4-10 year or longer time horizon, and the fact of the matter is that I consider 4 years to be minimum in terms of people who might have reasons that they might not be able to commit for longer, such as if they are elderly or have health conditions or they expect that they could start to have cashflow issues in and around that kind of a timeline.

I am just trying to be flexible in the way that I phrase these kinds of matters, yet guys who are brand new to investing, and if they are ONLY able to save/invest 10% of their income (and they have no other assets that they can move over into bitcoin), then they are likely going to have to plan to invest way longer than 10 years, and maybe 20-40 years - even though it is really hard to plan that far out, yet if someone is ONLY investing 10% of his income per year, then it is going to take 10 years for him to have had invested a whole year's of income into bitcoin, and sure it is possible that bitcoin way outperforms all other assets to increase the value of his investment, but he still has a problem of perhaps putting such small value into bitcoin in the early years that he is not really as advantaged by the BTC price going up, unless he can get more value in earlier and then he would be able to profit if BTC went shooting way up.

At the same time, I am not advocating overallocating to such a level (or front loading to such a level) that the person devolves into gambling, so the fact to the matter is that the guy is best off to invest as aggressively as he can without overdoing it and without engaging in leverage and figure out strategies to be aggressive, and so then let the investment work for him and the passage of time, and if he invests in reasonable ways, he might get lucky in such ways as to be able to cut back the reaching of a normal retirement (or fuck you status) in 30-40 years and to cut that down in half into something like 15-20 years.

Of course, a guy that comes to bitcoin with more resources, may well not have to wait so long as to get his bitcoin stash to work for him because he is able to lump sum, front load and reallocate from other assets, currencies and/or investments that he might have.... but guys still have to work with the cards that they have, and if they are real young, they are not necessarily disadvantaged, because a 50 year old guy might prefer to be somewhat broke and in his early 20s rather than being 50 years old - especially in terms of knowing about bitcoin as an investment and being able to see who bitcoin plays out in society, not only on a personal well being level but society wide over a lifetime.

and this is never to suggest that those that are working with a four to eight years plan based on thier budget and financial capabilities can't be in good profit but you know, making long term investment isn't all about taking out little profit whenever  you're on the positive side, you've got to be disciplined and futuristic enough to accumulate more within a long period of time which will increase the quantity of your starch at the end of your accumulation and go on to meeting your set out plan.

Yep.. not only the power of compounding, but the power of conviction and the power of continuing to put value into the investment, which likely triggers an additional 4-10 year investment timeline for any new cash that is injected into the investment... yet at some point there will start to be enough value in the stash that there will either be some satisfaction that there is enough bitcoin in there or that some other strategies, beyond just BTC accumulation becomes part of the goal... and there can be some irony that the number of bitcoin that is needed in the future is likely going to continue to be a lot less than the number of bitcoin that is needed to day to reach a similar level of prosperity and the creation of options.

Before even taking out your investment when you're in profit, it's also good to have a plan on ground regarding what your profit is going into or else you risk wasting your profit into something that's unprofitable and this is one obvious reason why you would need to set out a defined accumulation strategy which will be either the DCA strategy, the lump sum or a combination of the both and also make plan on what you're using your profit for at the end of your investment circle.

Well, there are likely stages to a lot of this, and there may well be stages after a guy starts to have enough BTC that he either shaves off some of his BTC to be able to diversify his wealth and/or his holdings, and there also might be stages in which a guy is able to greatly start to increase his consumption and/or to raise his standard of living.

No one can really say how to balance these trade offs between investing into bitcoin, investing in other things, and/or consumption. .and surely there can be kinds of consumptions that relate to basic needs and then there can be kinds of consumption that are more extravagant and showy.   And maybe some of the items cross over, such as the buying of more quality goods and services that may cost a lot more, but improve living comforts and even health... to buy better quality foods and maybe buy periods of relaxation, without necessarily having to worry about costs.  Sometimes it can also improve living standards to higher someone to help you with certain tasks, and that may help the other person out too, in order that the person can get paid.

Yeah, sometimes we might be confusing the definitions, and it seems that bitcoin has a bit of a pattern that justifies the consideration of the 4-year cycle, even if the cycle may well end up getting broken at some point... however, if we already have a pattern of a 4 -year cycle, then, it is likely helpful to at least attempt to recognize that such pattern has so far tended to play around the timeline of the halvening.
The bitcoin pattern will be changed based on the halves most of the time,many people holding from pump after the Corona time for the new halves at the 2024.With no surprise we get the new all time high of 73k in the bitcoin price which is more then the value of 68k which was the highest of all the time.

Having an ATH prior to the halvening is not a break in the 4-year cycle.

Yeah there is a lot of demand right now on bitcoin due to the new buy channels that are opened up through the ETFs, so that might contribute towards the price going higher than expected in a short period of time, yet at the same time, there can be all kinds of explanations for why the BTC price is going higher now, including theories that the earlier cycle was cut short due to a lot of the corruption in the space and also the China government's apparent battle with kicking miners out of their country.

This bull run was not end and still we have a hope in the bitcoin price for the consecutive pump in the 2024.So holding was the key to the good profit in the crypto currency trading.

Fuck crypto.  We are talking about bitcoin here.

Otherwise if you meant to say bitcoin but you slipped, then you need to start to think about these matters more clearly and say what you mean, because crypto does not mean anything hardly, unless you clarify what you are talking about in relation to bitcoin.

Otherwise, in regards to your other points about various consecutive pumps and ongoing reasons for bitcoin to pump in 2024, yes they seem to exist for a variety of reasons... and at least 1) pressures from the ETF sales and extra buying that will come through those channels, 2) the halvening, 3) ongoing debasement of the dollar and other fiat currencies and 4) perhaps some other reasons that might not be so clearly outlined in advance.. but just related to ongoing strengthening of the various bitcoin network effects (referring to the 7 outlined by Trace Mayer)

So yeah we do not necessarily need to plan out 10 years or more in order to be considered long term, but if we really consider what people might want to do with their investment into bitcoin, then we likely can see that they are wanting to make their lives better in the future.... so yeah.. I suppose that there could be such things as long term, medium term and short term trades, and so any one getting involved in bitcoin for less than 4 years could be trading within various periods of time, yet it would be difficult to classify them as an investor in bitcoin if they have a timeline that is shorter than 4 years.
This was the good one,So the trader should not worry about the minor fall,many had brought in the 68k pump.After that we had faced huge fall in the bitcoin market.Many a while the price doesn’t cross above the value of 32-34k.But many had the gift of the value with the double digits profit of the holding on the correction time.Still many trader claiming the bitcoin will reach the value of 100k as the next target in the 2024.It was essential for the trader to make some profit by just holding on the bull market of the cryptocurrency market.Don’t sell your assets at the panic of losing the high prices,the bull run not end yet.

If someone is investing for the longer term, then he is likely going to be investing at least a couple of cycles, unless he is able to lump sum in, and then he might have a different agenda.

But even a guy who might have lump sum invested (or front-loaded) his investment somewhere towards the top of the 2021 cycle, he still would have had been able to do fine as long as he held on to his original investment, and just continued to buy throughout the whole period, and we can look at various scenarios to point out how such a persistent and consistent guy would have had performed at this time, and perhaps the ones who might have had the worst time would be the ones who sold on the way down and might not have figured out when or if to get back in or if they just sat on their hands the whole time and they are just eager to sell right now or at a profit, and so it is difficult to have sympathy for those kinds of guys who bought high and lacked enough conviction to continue to buy during the 2022 and 2023 periods in which the BTC price was way below a lot of the 2021 prices.

Those kinds of guys (and whiners) exist, yet personally, I have little sympathy for them, and I have no reason to suggest that they were doing anything prudent in the way that they played their bitcoin investment without having enough conviction to keep buying through 2022 and 2023..

Regarding time horizon, everyone is going to have his own investment time horizon that might already have to do with how much of an investment that he had already built up prior to coming into bitcoin.  But anyone who is brand new to bitcoin and/or brand new to investing, should be able to come to bitcoin thinking about investing 4-10 years or more, and frequently it will take them 10 years or more just to get their financial and psychological shit together . .as well as building up their investment nestegg.. especially if they are new to investing.. so if they are new to investing they might have no (reasonable) abilities to front-load their investment (and so they are ONLY stuck with DCA and various more modest tactics of building their BTC investment and also building other solid elements around their own personal finances),

especially if they might ONLY be investing $100 per week or even $10 per week for some guys who might be getting started from poorer areas of the world.  so it could take a while to build an investment portfolio at that rate.  So the guy investing $10 per week would only have invested $520 after a year and $5,200 after 10 years, yet the guy investing $100 per week would have 10x that amount, and a lot of these numbers end up relating back to their own financial needs in terms of how much they need to build up in order to perhaps later be able to either live off of their BTC or to be able to otherwise profit from their BTC investment to have it supplement their needs at some later time down the road.

I didnt get that withdrawal rate point. Can you just elaborate it a bit for my understanding. Will be grateful.
BTC could fairly conservatively facilitate 6-10% per year or perhaps even more, as long as you are valuing your stash based on the bottom price (or the 200-WMA) rather than attempting to value your BTC based on top (or spot) prices that tend to be all over the place... even though when you sell, you will of course be selling based on then BTC spot prices.
Correct me if I am wrong. For this to be true, it is mandatory that you have carefully gathered your Bitcoin in DCA manner or in a way that your average price is low compared to spot value (0r 200 WMA) i.e. the value at which you want to sell.

Your way of framing the matter sounds strange to me because part of the idea of entering into a phase of sustainable withdraw is that you are measuring your overall BTC portfolio size and you are assessing the dollar value of it in terms of the 200-WMA so that you can figure out if you have enough to be able to start a withdrawal practice that mostly involves holding your BTC but shaving off small amounts periodically, whether you shave off monthly, quarterly, twice a year, annually or every couple of years.. or some other increment that makes sense. 

you value it based on the 200-WMA (which is the bottom price), yet of course, you are making any sales at spot price and maybe even selling way above the 200-WMA.  Your costs per BTC would not really be very relevant, even though presumptively,  you are selling in profits, but if you have enough BTC and you have a certain formula for selling, as I describe in my sustainable withdrawal thread, then you might not give any shits about whether you are in profits or not or how much you are in profits, but you already meet the criteria for being able to shave off in accordance with the parameters of how much you have an dhow much you expect it to continue to grow so that any amount that you are shaving off is likely going to not significantly impact the overall value of the investment.

We are getting too much off topic in going down this line anyhow.. because this thread is about accumulation rather than about selling... and I am more than open to discuss these ideas in my sustainable withdrawal thread, yet you might have to think it through a bit anyhow, because you have to get to a state of sufficiently accumulating in your quantity of BTC before it even starts to make sense to begin to employ various withdrawal and/or raking strategies.

From my fuck you status chart, you can see that the BTC's 200-WMA (or the bottom) has gone up by more than 20% per year, and there is no reason to believe that it won't continue to go up more than 20% per year, especially if averaged out, and also you can see with my fuck you status chart that the worst period for the 200-WMA rate of increase was between mid 2022 until late 2023 (which was 20% annually for that period).  So in theory, if you are measuring your BTC's value from the bottom price, then you could expect to withdraw based on that even up to 20% and it would still continue to sustain itself in terms of dollar values.. .and to be safe, you could withdraw at a lower rate such as 6% to 10% and still have a cushion, and since the 200-WMA is a lagging indicator, you can watch it to see if it is starting to get to lower values, otherwise you should be able to sustainably withdraw at way higher rates than you would have had been able to do under traditional investments.  You can see more of my sustainable withdraw discussions in my sustainable withdrawal thread, and some of the linked tools and threads.
You are right that from mid 2022 to late 2023 200-WMA is above Bitcoin price. Apart from that period, most of the time 200 WMA is below Bitcoin price.

You just described the direct opposite of what I said and what the BTC price shows.  The BTC spot price is almost never below the 200-WMA, except between mid-2022 and about October 2023, it spent quite a bit of time below the 200-WMA.. which largely shows that it was a bargain to be buying BTC during that period.

So we can safely assume that if we are taking 200-WMA is reference then most time its below Bitcoin price. With 200-WMA one can easily figure out how much room he has for withdrawal. 

If the BTC spot price starts getting close to the 200-WMA, then that will likely mean that the 200-WMA is not going to go up as fast and those might be periods to sell fewer BTC (if we are talking about sustainable withdrawal) and maybe even times to buy more BTC if we are in our BTC accumulation stages, and yeah it has tended to take a whole cycle before the BTC price gets back down to the 200-WMA.. and so right now we are more than 2x higher than the 200-WMA, but in 2021 we were 5-6x higher in early 2021 and around 3x higher in late 2021, and in late 2017 the BTC price had gotten around 14x higher than the 200-WMA.  You can see the numbers through the sustainable withdrawal tool and putting in various dates.

Of course, with my sustainable withdrawal tool (powered by bitmover), you can back test a variety of theories and timelines to see for yourself that you could have had engaged in pretty high withdrawal rates (even maximizing out the tool at 30%), and BTC still has held its dollar value.. especially over longer periods of time.   I recently discussed an example that goes back to June 1, 2019 in this post.
https://bitcoindata.science/withdrawal-strategy this is a great tool developed by bitmover. Just enter your Bitcoin stash size and you will get to know the authorized BTC withdrawal. I will play more with this tool more to get more info about its working.

Yeah.. play around with it.  There is a part that looks at the present, and you can also back test results with the simulator... so you want to attempt to get value out of the tool, then make sure you work the date of the simulator or even back test your stash size (or hypothetical stash size) in accordance with a dollar value that is based on the 200-WMA and not just looking at the BTC spot price.

Many Bitcoin investors struggle to understand the difference between short-term and long-term since it is not as obvious as it appears. In traditional investing, long-term is frequently defined as a few years, but in the world of cryptocurrency, this is not the case. One approach to figure out the differences is to consider the objectives of each form of investment. Short-term investing is typically about making immediate profits, but long-term investing is primarily about building wealth over time. As a result, each technique requires a distinct attitude.

There is no long term investing in cryptocurrencies.  Fuck shitcoins.  No one should even try to invest in them in the long term. 

Now if you meant to say bitcoin instead of using the term cryptocurrency, then why didn't you just say it?  Are you trying to sound smart by using a meaningless, vague and misleading term.  Hopefully none of us are investing in cryptocurrencies in the long term.  That would be retarded.

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I think bitcoin will go to 80k before the healing.  What is your opinion on this?

It is difficult to predict the short term, but of course, right now there are a lot of ongoing upwards pressures on the BTC price, due to a lot of the demand that is coming from the BTC spot ETFs and perhaps others who are also buying in relation to the data that is showing a lot of ongoing BTC buying happening through the BTC spot ETFs. 

There seem to be decently good chances that BTC prices will reach $80k and even $100k prior to the halvening, yet at the same time, none of us know, and if we are not trading and if we are still accumulating BTC, then we might prefer that the BTC price does not go up as fast, so that we can buy more BTC... So yeah, guys have to choose how much BTC to buy and to continue to buy and the dilemma is not necessarily going to get any better because there might still continue to be logic to continue to buy, and some uncertainties regarding whether dips will continue to happen or to come down to the level of current prices at a later date.

Why are you asking such question?  Are you planning to sell in the short term?  Have you already been accumulating BTC? You are pretty new to the forum (only here since late September 2023), so are you newly accumulating BTC or have you been buying BTC for a while prior to your forum registration?  Of course, many of us in this thread suggest that guys who do not have any BTC should start buying to at least have some to prepare for up, so hopefully you have some BTC rather than just watching the price continuing to go up.

I lost a friend in the cold hands of death because he failed to take care of health. His mind is always investing in bitcoin with the little money he regularly gets from his workplace, making him forget that his body system needs to rest and to be taken care of.

That is a good point. We have to make sure that we invest into bitcoin with our time, energy and value in an amount that still allows us to experience our regular life, too, and yeah, to take care of our body and our mind as part of our routine (or our daily practices that have a decent diet, a sufficient amount of sleep and some exercise and/or other activities).
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The point is that DCA must not be applied by individuals with regular incomes, even those with incomes that are not regular can apply the DCA method.
In a nutshell, have some savings for emergencies than keep applying a DCA strategy forgetting that situations can turn around making you forget other life importance matters to take care of your health by exercising, eating healthy, drinking enough water, having more rest and have a regular 3 months intervals of hospital checkup of the body system.

I am giving this advice because one health comes first and it should be taken care of. I lost a friend in the cold hands of death because he failed to take care of health. His mind is always investing in bitcoin with the little money he regularly gets from his workplace, making him forget that his body system needs to rest and to be taken care of.
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March 18, 2024, 02:32:05 PM
In other words, there are some advantages, towards buying when the BTC price is going down rather than when it is going up.. but you cannot really affect those kinds of situations.  You have to play with the cards that you have, and figure out what you are going to do and how you are going to deal with the current dynamics as well as future dynamics that are not really known very well until after they happen.


Everyone must invest according to his own size, and its good that we well know our numbers so that we can make better decisions regarding to the best kind of strategy to implement and how we can plan our investment journey with DCA.

everyone loves buying from the dip cause they accumulate more for cheaper price, but as an investor we must also be well prepared for both market trends and learn to keep on accumulating no matter what, with proper planning and building up our funds we can also grow to better take advantage of those bear season well when we have well built reserves or have found a way to increase or source of income.

I myself prefer to see my bitcoin journey as a normal life experience and I'm trying to build a character around it, making it a lifestyle to think in terms of building up emergency funds, keeping floats and also reserves, this way I feel I am getting ready for any opportunity  I could savour on and since we are in a bull trend having such good dips might not always come by, so when ever of if we have any I could also take advantage of them to.

There are people just got hype up on the idea and think about its good to put everything they have because they are sure about the result on what they are doing. But they forget to settle up their prioritize especially their needs that's why if everything fucks up all their plans to hodl collapsed and worst they sell their bitcoins at losing price. That's why its really better to buy according to their capacity and they make sure that the amount they spent is the amount they can afford to save so that they don't struggle on their daily expenses and can think about more clear since they in control on their investment made.

Actually I total all my profit made every 15 days on my side hustle and I separate it for 50% for investment, 25% for my emergency funds and the other 25% is for my travel expenses. My earnings for my main job is for my bills,daily needs and insurance. For doing this consistently for years I can say I live a comfortable life and away from stress and debts.
Indeed, this problem always occurs to those who are just starting out. Especially beginners because they are not based on sufficient knowledge and do not look at their financial situation because this is the most important factor in the investment journey, especially for DCA.
However, this is a place for them to learn, understand and read about what they need in their strategy and also what they need to improve. Investing requires good funding so that everything runs well, and if finances do not support it then they should look for a side job or side income to support their strategy. The goal is to be able to meet their basic needs and also have emergency funds without having to sacrifice the investment they have built when they really need it, and this is a problem for those who end up selling at a loss. Investing is actually very easy, especially if you follow the DCA strategy because you don't have the ability to buy large amounts and hold them for the long term, and DCA is the best solution for those of us who have limited finances because with this we can buy regularly, either weekly or monthly. However, it must be supported by what I mentioned above, do it seriously and consistently so that in the future we can achieve good results.
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Yeah, sometimes we might be confusing the definitions, and it seems that bitcoin has a bit of a pattern that justifies the consideration of the 4-year cycle, even if the cycle may well end up getting broken at some point... however, if we already have a pattern of a 4 -year cycle, then, it is likely helpful to at least attempt to recognize that such pattern has so far tended to play around the timeline of the halvening.

your right Everyone's investment strategy is different, as you said, if we want to invest long-term in Bitcoin we need to understand its four year cycle, i.e. Halving.  By understanding this cycle, we can make long term investment and now the price of bitcoin is around 68k I remember two years ago when there was a correction in bitcoin then bitcoin went up to 15k if there  If we do some analysis and understand this cycle like you said, I think that was the biggest opportunity to invest in bitcoin. I think bitcoin will go to 80k before the healing.  What is your opinion on this?
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However in terms of short-term investment I agree with you that most people normally get confused or couldn't distinguish between short-term and long term investment because one of the things I realized is that most people or rather investors feels that holding Bitcoin for six or seven months is a long term holding without knowing that they are only doing there normally trading because like you said a long term holding could be refer as holding Bitcoin for ten or more than ten years.

Yeah, sometimes we might be confusing the definitions, and it seems that bitcoin has a bit of a pattern that justifies the consideration of the 4-year cycle, even if the cycle may well end up getting broken at some point... however, if we already have a pattern of a 4 -year cycle, then, it is likely helpful to at least attempt to recognize that such pattern has so far tended to play around the timeline of the halvening.

It's true that bitcoin has a certain degree of cyclicality, and much of that appears to be related to the halving. The fact that the reward for mining bitcoin gets cut in half every four years has a big impact on the market. Some say that the so-called "halving cycle" is responsible for some of the most extreme bull and bear markets.
Although the halving appears to be the most significant element responsible for some of the largest bull and bear markets, But there are still a few other factors that may influence the bitcoin price cycle.

For example, there's the idea of the "stock-to-flow" ratio, which is a measure of how scarce bitcoin is relative to how much is in circulation. This ratio tends to increase after the halving, which can have an impact on price. There's also the "bull market top" indicator, which is based on the idea that the price of bitcoin tends to peak about a year after the halving. These are just a few examples of other theories that try to explain the bitcoin price cycle.

[edited out]..Now if you are mixing your actions by buying and selling (in other words trading) then that is another story, but if you are strictly buying, then you have a dynamic that either your holdings are continuously going into less and less profits (in a bear market) or you have the dynamics that your holdings are increasingly in profits (in a bull market).
I highlighted a paragraph out, I've not been mixing strategies, I've been buying but I always thought we have been in the bear Market and I have also expressed myself in terms if us beign in the bear market but right now I feel my perspective of what a bear market or bull market is shattered, so I think it would be fair if I could explain more about it.

I already explained and probably overly explained, and so you need to think in longer timelines.  In essence, we have been in a bull market since November 2022, and I give little shits about what others say about the various corrections along the way.  The market does not change back and forth.

on the other hand, we could fairly assess that we might not have had realized that we were in a bull market until either mid-2023 or even as late as October 2023, but surely at some point, we would have or should have realized that we were in a bull market rather than a bear market since November 2022.

Bull market is that the price is generally trending up (even if there may well be short or long periods of corrections in between).

In other words, you cannot be flipping back and forth, and clearly even if we were in a correction in December 2023.. who gives any shits.. we were still obviously already in a bull market, even if there was a correction.

People frequently get confused by the short-term and/or overly obsess about the short term.. and especially if you already stated that you are planning to invest for a whole cycle, then there seems to be almost no reason to be getting worked up about various short term moves.  

Of course, any of us still wants to try to minimize his cost per BTC, but there is ONLY so much that we are able to do about those kinds of things, especially if we are new to bitcoin and still building our stash...

As I already mentioned, if you have been buying since December (or even in the past 16 months) the value of your holdings are generally in profits, and I am not even proclaiming that you are not faced with any dilemma, since when BTC is in this kind of bull market, there may well be a lot of advantages to front loading and investing as much as possible earlier rather than stringing out purchases, but at the same time, if you are new to bitcoin (and/or investing), you may well not have much if any choice based on how much (or the lack) that you have in your own finances to be able to dedicate to BTC purchases.

In other words, there are some advantages, towards buying when the BTC price is going down rather than when it is going up.. but you cannot really affect those kinds of situations
.  You have to play with the cards that you have, and figure out what you are going to do and how you are going to deal with the current dynamics as well as future dynamics that are not really known very well until after they happen.

Of course like I already mentioned on my previous post there is an advantage of buying when the Bitcoin price is lower but we shouldn't draw all our focus or target on buying Bitcoin only when the price is going down because the probability of Bitcoin dipping the way they expected may not be certain, however if they most go for dip it will surely depend on there investment portfolio if they wish to still utilize the opportunity if Bitcoin is going down, perhaps they could channel some of there funds on Lump sum while they continue investing on the normal price of the Bitcoin.
One of the worse mistakes most Bitcoin investors make is trying to time the market, rather than going ahead to buy, they decide to wait for when they believe to be the right time, which is when the price of Bitcoin drops, then they go ahead to buy. This is an approach for novice investors. Honestly, when I first began my Bitcoin journey, the idea and approach I began with was to wait for the price of Bitcoin to drop to a certain level then I go ahead to buy and wait for the price to go up again so I can take out my profits and then wait for another dip which I saw as an opportunity to invest.
But along the line, when I learned about DCA approach, I realized at that point that I wasn't really investing in Bitcoin, but Gambling with my money all these while, because I was chasing after the short-term gain that Bitcoin has to offer which was/is in no sense compared to the long-term benefits associated with Bitcoin investment.
And ever since I started using the DCA technique, I've not only observed that it's a more better and safer approach but I also noticed that DCA has helped to eliminate the mental stress associated with trading and now my investment isn't affected by sudden market fluctuations.


You are absolutely correct; six or seven months is still considered short-term when it comes to Bitcoin investing. Many individuals believe that holding Bitcoin for a few months is a long-term investment, however this is not the case. Due to the volatility of the cryptocurrency market, even a year or two can be considered short-term. However, if you hold Bitcoin for a decade or more, you will be able to weather the market's ups and downs and reap the benefits of long-term investment.

Many Bitcoin investors struggle to understand the difference between short-term and long-term since it is not as obvious as it appears. In traditional investing, long-term is frequently defined as a few years, but in the world of cryptocurrency, this is not the case. One approach to figure out the differences is to consider the objectives of each form of investment. Short-term investing is typically about making immediate profits, but long-term investing is primarily about building wealth over time. As a result, each technique requires a distinct attitude.

In other words, there are some advantages, towards buying when the BTC price is going down rather than when it is going up.. but you cannot really affect those kinds of situations.  You have to play with the cards that you have, and figure out what you are going to do and how you are going to deal with the current dynamics as well as future dynamics that are not really known very well until after they happen.

everyone loves buying from the dip cause they accumulate more for cheaper price, but as an investor we must also be well prepared for both market trends and learn to keep on accumulating no matter what, with proper planning and building up our funds we can also grow to better take advantage of those bear season well when we have well built reserves or have found a way to increase or source of income.

You have a good point there. Even though buying the dip can appear to be a good strategy towards accumulating Bitcoin, we still shouldn't be adamant about the fact that timing the market or waiting for a dip before you buy Bitcoin is only a good strategy if your goals towards Bitcoin investment are short-term, when used for long-term goals, buying the dip wouldn't be as helpful as it appears to look, it would only end up looking like an over hyped or over exaggerated strategy due to its ineffectiveness.

Considering and having a diverse range of strategies as well as a solid financial foundation could be be even more effective when focusing on the long-term. Also, having multiple sources of incomes can also be a huge help, especially during a bear market. Also having an emergency fund would also appear to be really helpful because it will help you avoid the temptations of running to your investment whenever you have financial needs or an emergency.



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March 18, 2024, 12:13:52 PM
I didnt get that withdrawal rate point. Can you just elaborate it a bit for my understanding. Will be grateful.
BTC could fairly conservatively facilitate 6-10% per year or perhaps even more, as long as you are valuing your stash based on the bottom price (or the 200-WMA) rather than attempting to value your BTC based on top (or spot) prices that tend to be all over the place... even though when you sell, you will of course be selling based on then BTC spot prices.

Correct me if I am wrong. For this to be true, it is mandatory that you have carefully gathered your Bitcoin in DCA manner or in a way that your average price is low compared to spot value (0r 200 WMA) i.e. the value at which you want to sell.

From my fuck you status chart, you can see that the BTC's 200-WMA (or the bottom) has gone up by more than 20% per year, and there is no reason to believe that it won't continue to go up more than 20% per year, especially if averaged out, and also you can see with my fuck you status chart that the worst period for the 200-WMA rate of increase was between mid 2022 until late 2023 (which was 20% annually for that period).  So in theory, if you are measuring your BTC's value from the bottom price, then you could expect to withdraw based on that even up to 20% and it would still continue to sustain itself in terms of dollar values.. .and to be safe, you could withdraw at a lower rate such as 6% to 10% and still have a cushion, and since the 200-WMA is a lagging indicator, you can watch it to see if it is starting to get to lower values, otherwise you should be able to sustainably withdraw at way higher rates than you would have had been able to do under traditional investments.  You can see more of my sustainable withdraw discussions in my sustainable withdrawal thread, and some of the linked tools and threads.

You are right that from mid 2022 to late 2023 200-WMA is above Bitcoin price. Apart from that period, most of the time 200 WMA is below Bitcoin price. So we can safely assume that if we are taking 200-WMA is reference then most time its below Bitcoin price. With 200-WMA one can easily figure out how much room he has for withdrawal. 

Of course, with my sustainable withdrawal tool (powered by bitmover), you can back test a variety of theories and timelines to see for yourself that you could have had engaged in pretty high withdrawal rates (even maximizing out the tool at 30%), and BTC still has held its dollar value.. especially over longer periods of time.   I recently discussed an example that goes back to June 1, 2019 in this post.

https://bitcoindata.science/withdrawal-strategy this is a great tool developed by bitmover. Just enter your Bitcoin stash size and you will get to know the authorized BTC withdrawal. I will play more with this tool more to get more info about its working.
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March 18, 2024, 11:45:03 AM
This was the good one,So the trader should not worry about the minor fall,many had brought in the 68k pump.After that we had faced huge fall in the bitcoin market.Many a while the price doesn’t cross above the value of 32-34k.But many had the gift of the value with the double digits profit of the holding on the correction time.Still many trader claiming the bitcoin will reach the value of 100k as the next target in the 2024.It was essential for the trader to make some profit by just holding on the bull market of the cryptocurrency market.Don’t sell your assets at the panic of losing the high prices,the bull run not end yet.
I think investors or holders would have been more better to use , because traders are those that normally buy or trade with their Bitcoin for short-term profit , either with spot or the use of leverages so using trader in the place of long-term holding just somehow.  But still you are right we should not be bothered of such minor dip as an long-term holders. Is actually a good time to keep the DCAing going while is still early, so if it by any chances dip further there's reason we have a strategy called "buying the dip " .

But now some traders would be panicky because they have no aim towards long term holding, and  am pretty sure alot have sold theirs in loss due to not wanting their money to get stock, while some emotions are being put to test, while those who are holding for long with the belief that Bitcoin would keep growing as time goes , so such minor dip won't concerned them . But the that would be of most concern to them is how to accumulate more bitcoin in their portfolio.
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March 18, 2024, 11:37:12 AM
This was the good one,So the trader should not worry about the minor fall,many had brought in the 68k pump.After that we had faced huge fall in the bitcoin market.Many a while the price doesn’t cross above the value of 32-34k.But many had the gift of the value with the double digits profit of the holding on the correction time.Still many trader claiming the bitcoin will reach the value of 100k as the next target in the 2024.It was essential for the trader to make some profit by just holding on the bull market of the cryptocurrency market.Don’t sell your assets at the panic of losing the high prices,the bull run not end yet.
You are misunderstanding trading with investing. For one to be able to keep his investment for up to 4-10yrs and above with increasing his bitcoin portfolio size regularly through DCA mixed with lump sum, or buy at the dip is known as hodli, and that means investment. This is because you are not after short-term profit,  but rather you are allowing your investment to grow over a long period of time so that it can be profitable due to the capital and profit generating new profits.

When someone buys bitcoin and plan to sell whenever there is a price higher than his entry point, or too soon because of little profit, he is a trader. That person will not benefit from the compounding value of bitcoin which is the highest of all profits, and that is why it is advised to invest in bitcoin, grow your investment through DCA regularly, amd hodli for a long period of time so that you can be proud of yourself for sacrificing and building your bitcoin investment, because bitcoin price increases with time-line, and it is the size of your bitcoin portfolio that determines your profit.
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The bitcoin pattern will be changed based on the halves most of the time,many people holding from pump after the Corona time for the new halves at the 2024.With no surprise we get the new all time high of 73k in the bitcoin price which is more then the value of 68k which was the highest of all the time.This bull run was not end and still we have a hope in the bitcoin price for the consecutive pump in the 2024.So holding was the key to the good profit in the crypto currency trading.

Before and after halving, the price pattern of Bitcoin usually changes as the statistics of the past years say so.In this situation, many investors seem to be giving more importance to holding Bitcoin. If we focus on a news a few days ago, El Salvador's President Nayib Bukele has transferred to his country's Bitcoin Wallet in Cold Storage.
Even Bukele announced to buy 1 bitcoin every day ... we can imagine that he is going to DCA strategy and want to holding. There are many investors around the world who do not want to lose valuable resources like Bitcoin, so I think all investors will be more careful about this valuable wealth.
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March 18, 2024, 11:01:31 AM
Furthermore, your forum registration date is coming upon 5 years, so maybe you are getting close to 5 years of investing into BTC.?
Chapter 1.
Well to the point of old times, I saved some Bitcoin(meaning USD not full Bitcoin) and traded on the Binance platform and won some trade then my balance was around $3k. badly said that my Binance account was lost with $2500+USD in BTC pair.  I can not recovery this account.
Chapter 2.
Since I got married, we have been very separated as a family. Our family refused to accept us because of our love marriage. I now spend the BTC I earn to meet my family's needs, where I can't save a bit even if I want to. But I want to save a bit if possible consistently.

Well.. too bad about chapter 1, and the reality of the matter is that the dollar and BTC is different.  So yeah, you may well have your local currency, so you may well feel some value in holding dollars, but the dollar is still inferior to holding actual BTC, but you still have to be able to hold it .. and of course, I frequently recommend a timeline of 4-10 years or longer in order to be an investor, otherwise you are merely trading in BTC rather than investing, which is your choice.

Regarding your Chapter 2.  If you do not have any disposable income, then you are not in a position to buy BTC, so that is too bad for you if you know about the value of BTC but you are still not able to set aside some of your value to invest into bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer - and your family's life may well be in a better state down the road if you were to be able to follow some kind of an investment plan rather than spending everything that you earn  as soon as you get it.. even if you are ONLY able to invest $10 per week or so.. it is better than nothing.. but again your decision in regards to your own situation in regards if you are actually able to accomplish any such investment based on your own circumstances.. and I would think that if you are a member of this forum (who is actively participating) then at least you have some knowledge about bitcoin.. which puts you at some advantages over members of the regular population.

I know that I have some mistakes and it is very difficult for me to correct them and reorganizing the investment plan is a big challenge for me now. But still I have to do it because I think about my future because if I don't plan and invest in the future I will surely suffer and will not be able to profit very well. I don't know how far I will succeed in my efforts but I will try to eventually accumulate some bitcoins and it will last for 4 to 10 years.

Is good to see that you have change your narrative on Bitcoin investment and decided to venture into it, so is a very good move you did because in terms of investment Bitcoin is actually the best for me and not because of any possible profits I could get on a short-term but because of what the future install for Bitcoin if we hold for a Long term. And also I believe that there is more than enough time for you to amend your mistake you feel you made during your investment, perhaps that's why they said that no time is wrong in terms of Bitcoin investment so you can actually utilize the time now and mend your investment, also if you are having a challenge on investment pattern you can check previous post here were they explain different types of investment strategies which is DCA and Lump Sum, so you could choose the one that will be more suitable for you.
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