You don't seem to be saying anything different than me in terms the unlikelihood that someone would buy a whole BTC at once, and even an aggressive DCA strategy in the ballpark of $100 per week is going to take 6 years just to invest up to $31k, so it may well not even be fast enough to get 1 BTC in 10 years at that $100 per week level of DCA...
But yeah there are some people who can be more aggressive than that.. but usually not regular folks.
Sometimes $100 a week is too heavy for the regular person and even more so if they live in a country that has lower wages compared to other countries.
You are not really making any point that I had not already made, including that frequently we are bouncing between ideas of $10 per week and $100 per week as mere guides for what normal people might be able to afford, and of course if you are ONLY making $300 to $500 per month, then you likely more on the $10 per week side of the scale rather than someone who might be making a couple thousand per month might be more able to afford $100 per week, but even if a person can afford whatever level that they choose to afford, they likely still need to make sure the rest of their cashflow is in place if they want to be somewhat aggressive in their savings/investment rate as compared to their budget, and yeah for someone making $300 to $500 per month, $10 per week might already be aggressive and might not even work if the person does not have a decently good handle on his/her cashflow including having an emergency fund.
The other point that I was making is that even if a person might be able to invest $100 per week (the higher end of the "normal person" range), it could still take such person 10 years or more to get towards the accumulation of 1 whole bitcoin, depending on what the BTC price does from here on out and in the next 10 years - which bitcoin's price in the coming 10 years surely is a bit of an unknown, even though many of us expect BTC prices to continue to go up and even to go up faster than the rate of inflation, which is part of the rational behind sound money and bitcoin serving as a good investment relative to other possible assets that might be considered as possible competitors or at least alternative possible investments.
Moreover, for those who are young and don't have a permanent job, of course they might not be too focused on investing $100 every week in Bitcoin. But time is not a problem in long-term investing because time passes so quickly and the $10 or $20 they invest regularly will not feel they can reach 1 BTC someday.
Well yeah, the odds do not seem to be very high that they will be able to reach a whole bitcoin in their lifetime at that rate, even in 40 to 50 years, but who knows, and who the fuck needs to reach a whole bitcoin anyhow? that was another one of my points regarding the supposed need to reach 1 bitcoin if someone might have a budget that is allowing ONLY less than the accumulation of less than $100 per week of bitcoin, and they still may well be able to profit stupendously from bitcoin from their mere investment into bitcoin, whatever happens to be their sustainable rate and even if they may or may not end up getting to fuck you status.. but surely the amount that is needed for fuck you status will also vary from region to region and person to person in terms of whether they feel that they need (in today's dollars) $200k (which is around $666 per month in passive income), $1million(which is around $3,333 per month in passive income), $2 million or some other amount (which is around $6,666 per month in passive income).
I think in long term investments we don't have to check price to stabilize our purchases, I mean the price today will be different in the next day. So buying regularly and not caring about the price will give you the perception of accumulating Bitcoin regardless of the current Bitcoin price. We only focus on 0.1 0.2 and so on until we reach 1 BTC in our last stage. 10 years or 20 years is quite a long time if you imagine it, but if we take it easy in investing, of course time will pass very quickly.
Frequently people, who invest/save, invest/save over 30, 40 or 50 years before the might stop working, but if Bitcoin is able to help them to short cut their working progress, then it has helped them to achieve meaningful goals, and sometimes actually being able to stop working is a pretty BIG achievement, even if someone might reach 60 years or older by the time it is achieved, so any years that are further shaved off of the need to work or even being able to choose types of work (more leisure work rather than difficult work) may well be considered as another kind of benefits that could come through bitcoin, even though surely not guaranteed to be able to accomplish such and/or not screwing it up somewhere along the way.
If we invest in crypto of course we will choose Bitcoin as the investment we choose because it is very leveraged that we can get profits from Bitcoin if we can collect it with the strategy we choose, choosing altcoins to invest of course we have to really know well about the altcoin that we choose because it is very difficult to make a profit.
Many investors still prefer alts instead of Bitcoin because of the possibility to gain huge in a short period (especially if you invest on the current hype like meme coins) that's what they thought. But not realizing that investing solely to Bitcoin is way safer and less risky. It might take time to gain but at least it's much wiser compared to investing in altcoins.
Therefore, buy Bitcoin and keep holding because it's the best choice.
From my readings and learning here, I have come to notice that altcoins are not particularly people option when it comes to an investment and this from an angle is true but many other people in the crypto space seem to think diversifying your portfolio during bull season is probably the best type of investment especially when some altcoins too tend to follow the upward trend of Bitcoin although I come to the understanding that in order to do this, it has to be in done in a short term investment because altcoins do tend to dump at any time but that doesn't remove the fact they are still possiblity of some investor getting some profits out of an investment in some altcoins although there's still the problem of actually knowing the right one to invest in, but I would like to know your take on this thought, sir JayJuanGee as you seem to be well inclined in field of economical statistics like investment in Bitcoin.
We have already talked quite a bit about this topic in this thread, and probably too much in this thread since first of all the topic of shitcoins is not on topic in this thread.
Another thing that I frequently say is don't be fucking around with shitcoins. Get your bitcoin investment plan and practice in place first, and then if for some reason you are a gambling fuck and cannot resist wasting your time, money and energies in shitcoins, then hopefully you are not so dumb as to invest any more than 10% of your total crypto portfolio (meaning bitcoin is at least 90% of that) on shitcoins.
Regarding your point about correlation, yeah of course, shitcoins are correlated to bitcoin, so why are you going to waste your time adding extra risk when they are already correlated to bitcoin.. the reason is that you are either a greedy fuck or that you do not sufficiently understand bitcoin.
In the end, do what you want. No one is going to stop you from wasting, time, energy and money to fuck around with shitcoins, but hopefully you at least have enough will power to stop at no more than 10% of your total crypto size, and yeah of course you are going to feel that it is not enough because there are thousands of worthless shitcoins that make it appear that they are worthy of investment for one reason or another.. but largely just bullshit... even if some of them may well have short periods of outperforming bitcoin and sometimes their outperformance of bitcoin might last a long time, but I doubt that the possibility that they might be able to outperform bitcoin is a strong enough reason to waste time, money and energy ojn them... especially if you actually account for both upside potentials and dowside risks.
Again, do what you like. And the mere fact that you are asking about them, in this thread, while presuming that you are asking something important, shows that you are either likely already distracted or that you are trolling the thread with disingenuine off-topic bullshit.
Although I don't to think am ready to take such risk with having an investment in some shitcoins as some do call it here and I believe my planning to holding my coins would solely be related to Bitcoin only, but for now that the finance isn't there am not in any hurry to make an investment as I have also learnt that one should actually invest what they know won't affect their activities with money concerning their basic needs, so am drafting a good plan to my DCA STRATEGY as soon as possible since the market is looking friendly, I believe I don't need to wait for the DIP to comes because there's no certainty on when that will occur again so starting now isn't actually a bad idea right?.
From this part of your post, it appears you understand not to fuck around with shitcoins, but you are still wondering about it. I would think that if you invest in bitcoin for 3-5 years or longer, and you get your shit together in regards to your bitcoin strategy, then you will likely be in a better to reassess the extent to which you might want to add shitcoins to your investment portfolio... and probably even if you spent several years investing into bitcoin and you do decide to add some shitcoins,. you will likely come to realize to keep your investment into shitcoins down to a pretty small amount, otherwise you may well end up either drawing from your bitcoin investment, diluting your bitcoin investment and/or finding that there are quite a few ways to be creative with your bitcoin without having to devolve into fucking around with shitcoins.
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A well detailed explanation you have done well JJG. But on the other side of the spectrum there are people that were early adopters with no financial wealth or level of education and got bitcoin for less than $0.1. But most of them sold at $1 because it surely can't go higher than that and some were lucky to sell during the previous bull run. Those people lost a loot by selling. I can totally understand that those persons lack the knowledge and advantages of holding long. Everybody has their own experiences which might influence their life one way or the other.
Of course, there are going to be quite a few examples of people who got into bitcoin early and sold way too many too soon, and so I am not sure exactly what we can learn from them, except maybe to try NOT to make similar kinds of mistakes (especially if we can recognize the mistakes). Frequently, there are going to be ways that we actually have to apply our learnings in very concrete kinds of action ways and even go through some of the waves of the cycle in order to feel some of the compelling aspects of employing various strategies through such waves, whether it might be some variation of ongoing buying, or maybe some shaving off of some BTC holdings at various points (hopefully not selling all of them), and if we try to learn from our mistakes, we also likely will learn about ourselves, including seeing that sometimes we might have tendencies to make similar kinds of mistakes over and over, and we might not exactly know how to resolve our own mistakes without actually employing actions and various kinds of ongoing reflections regarding what we did and what were the effects of our actions.
IMO you financial wealth and formal education is not really important to an investor. I see it as plus and something that could be achieved as time goes by.
Experience does tend to be a good teacher, but sometimes formal education does help us to learn how to learn... and sometimes we might not even realize that some of the things that we had not been learning through formal education might have been a result of our not figuring out how to try to put some of the training into action or to figure out its relevance in our lives and/or in connection with some topic that might be of interest to us.
For those who like to focus on long-term investment patterns, I don't think there is a need to focus on discount prices in the short term except to continue buying at discount prices for more profits in the future. Because investors who apply long-term investment patterns more often hold Bitcoin for the long term than people who focus on the short term.
Long term investment in Bitcoin would require you buy lowered or cheeper and hodl for a long term which may Spam across years in some cases before you take profit, and that's why discount prices can't be over looked regardless of the timing. Discounting is good for both long and short term as either ways still turns out profitable able except the short term is below months then space of days or weeks sometime wouldn't be effective enough to yield good profits.
Frequently we are going to need several cycles in something like bitcoin in order to hopefully experience the exponential aspects of the compounding effects, and sure some folks might be completely happy with 50% profits or even 3x to 5x profits, but sometimes with a bit of patience the 3x to 5x may well end up turning into 20x or more.. but those kinds of compoundings do not necessarily happen within one cycle and may take several cycles to play out.