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And why are we not accused of scammers still? A lot of bitcointalker's have bought or cards already.

Actually you are accused for being scammer. Just look at your trust feedback: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3455716
Keep in mind that on this forum everybody is allowed to have his own opinion, whether you like it or not, and people are not easy to please, especially in relation with money.

The topic was accidentally locked by me, i asked the admin to unlock it for me and they just did.

I find that quite a weak excuse; you could have made a topic asking how to unlock your own topic, for example.

Nope, he is trolling read : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-mastercard-kyc-5392004
He assumed, he did not use our service. Otherwise, he wouldn't say that.

The topic was accidentally locked by me, i asked the admin to unlock it for me and they just did.

I find that quite a weak excuse; you could have made a topic asking how to unlock your own topic, for example.
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Se ou guys are assuming everything, do you research men. I asked the admin to reopen the topic, and they already did that for me.
legendary
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And why are we not accused of scammers still? A lot of bitcointalker's have bought or cards already.

Actually you are accused for being scammer. Just look at your trust feedback: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3455716
Keep in mind that on this forum everybody is allowed to have his own opinion, whether you like it or not, and people are not easy to please, especially in relation with money.

The topic was accidentally locked by me, i asked the admin to unlock it for me and they just did.

I find that quite a weak excuse; you could have made a topic asking how to unlock your own topic, for example.
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Weird making assumptions. First of all we never claimed to be live for years. See or announcement here:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-there-interested-in-a-virtual-visa-debit-card-opinion-asked-5388338
Second, those all are standard Mastercard text right from their promotion materials. I get the feeling that you 2 guys are paid by ezzocard, because we are much cheaper than them.

All i can say, is try our service you can start with less than 25USD. All cards are instantly issued, so there is not waiting time.

I don't know if it's lack of patience for getting on profit or something else, but:
1. Your tone is pretty much different (in a bad way) than in the initial topic before starting the business (LotusHedel and CriptoDebit.com are same person, right?)
2. You avoid certain answers which I find necessary for trust. The people here don't want to steal your business, they want to ensure they don't lose their money because Mastercard shuts down your business, for example.

All in all, I don't know if you want to scam or you just lack some "people skills", but for now this doesn't look great.
And making new topic every time you get unwanted discussion doesn't help, because they're considered duplicate and get reported/removed.

So if you want a proper long time business... it's you who have to improve.
As a pretty much long timer I am almost sure that those answers don't look like that because somebody would be paid by the competition.
If your business is legit, get somebody really good at PR, at least for a while, before you sink it. Just an advice.


Hi,

You right i was a little mean, but i was a bit busy and these accusations are just unfounded. You will hear it on this forum as well, as soon people are ready to let reviews behind.
The topic was accidentally locked by me, i asked the admin to unlock it for me and they just did.

And why are we not accused of scammers still? A lot of bitcointalker's have bought or cards already.

Best
legendary
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Funny thing happened in last few days.
This desperate CriptoDebiters locked one of their topics because they didn't like what I was writing about them, so they opened new duplicate ANN topic, and that is not allowed by bitcointalk forum rules.
I see now they also created a Russian ANN topic, like I expected and said they are probably located in Russia or some of the surrounding countries... but they say they used Google translate  Cheesy
I don't know if the claims for plagiarism are true, but this is one more accusations against them.

Archived CriptoDebit profile for future reference:

https://archive.ph/OBnx0
Biu Biu

Your tone is pretty much different (in a bad way) than in the initial topic before starting the business (LotusHedel and CriptoDebit.com are same person, right?)
That is a nice find, and I totally missed their alter ego LotusHedel.
He looks very passionate to sell 101 invisible cards.

You avoid certain answers which I find necessary for trust. The people here don't want to steal your business, they want to ensure they don't lose their money because Mastercard shuts down your business, for example.
Not only they are avoiding to answer legit questions, but they are not responding to messages in forum, or in telegram now, so only way of talking with them is on their temporary website with one man support team.

And making new topic every time you get unwanted discussion doesn't help, because they're considered duplicate and get reported/removed.
Reporting this duplicate spamming topics to moderators is very effective solution for this. Wink
legendary
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Weird making assumptions. First of all we never claimed to be live for years. See or announcement here:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-there-interested-in-a-virtual-visa-debit-card-opinion-asked-5388338
Second, those all are standard Mastercard text right from their promotion materials. I get the feeling that you 2 guys are paid by ezzocard, because we are much cheaper than them.

All i can say, is try our service you can start with less than 25USD. All cards are instantly issued, so there is not waiting time.

I don't know if it's lack of patience for getting on profit or something else, but:
1. Your tone is pretty much different (in a bad way) than in the initial topic before starting the business (LotusHedel and CriptoDebit.com are same person, right?)
2. You avoid certain answers which I find necessary for trust. The people here don't want to steal your business, they want to ensure they don't lose their money because Mastercard shuts down your business, for example.

All in all, I don't know if you want to scam or you just lack some "people skills", but for now this doesn't look great.
And making new topic every time you get unwanted discussion doesn't help, because they're considered duplicate and get reported/removed.

So if you want a proper long time business... it's you who have to improve.
As a pretty much long timer I am almost sure that those answers don't look like that because somebody would be paid by the competition.
If your business is legit, get somebody really good at PR, at least for a while, before you sink it. Just an advice.
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I accidentally noticed that your domain name is less than 2 weeks old

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  Updated Date: 2022-03-16T16:03:27Z
   Creation Date: 2022-03-11T19:24:24Z
   Registry Expiry Date: 2023-03-11T19:24:24Z

I would also like to quote @witcher_sense reply to your local topic, which appears to be copy from another site.

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We offer virtual prepaid Visa and Mastercard bank cards that allow you to pay for goods and services anonymously online. We work worldwide so you can purchase virtual prepaid cards from anywhere in the world and use them to pay online on any websites that accept Mastercard or Visa prepaid cards.

https://ezzocard.com/

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The Cripto Card is a real virtual Mastercard® Debit Card that can be used anonymously online anywhere where Mastercard® is accepted.

We work worldwide so you can purchase virtual debit cards from anywhere in the world and use them to pay online on any websites that accept Mastercard® cards.

You can read it here ---> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59692473


I think that if we dig deeper, we will find more, but this is enough to judge you as scammer, especially since you give illogical and contradictory responses.




Weird making assumptions. First of all we never claimed to be live for years. See or announcement here:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-there-interested-in-a-virtual-visa-debit-card-opinion-asked-5388338
Second, those all are standard Mastercard text right from their promotion materials. I get the feeling that you 2 guys are paid by ezzocard, because we are much cheaper than them.

All i can say, is try our service you can start with less than 25USD. All cards are instantly issued, so there is not waiting time.
legendary
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I accidentally noticed that your domain name is less than 2 weeks old

Quote
  Updated Date: 2022-03-16T16:03:27Z
   Creation Date: 2022-03-11T19:24:24Z
   Registry Expiry Date: 2023-03-11T19:24:24Z

I would also like to quote @witcher_sense reply to your local topic, which appears to be copy from another site.

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We offer virtual prepaid Visa and Mastercard bank cards that allow you to pay for goods and services anonymously online. We work worldwide so you can purchase virtual prepaid cards from anywhere in the world and use them to pay online on any websites that accept Mastercard or Visa prepaid cards.

https://ezzocard.com/

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The Cripto Card is a real virtual Mastercard® Debit Card that can be used anonymously online anywhere where Mastercard® is accepted.

We work worldwide so you can purchase virtual debit cards from anywhere in the world and use them to pay online on any websites that accept Mastercard® cards.

You can read it here ---> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59692473


I think that if we dig deeper, we will find more, but this is enough to judge you as scammer, especially since you give illogical and contradictory responses.

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If I understand correctly this is only VIRTUAL master cards (not physical plastic cards), and you can't use them on ATM as far as I know. unless they invent some virtual ATM's  Cheesy

Ah yes you are right, that was a total brainfart, we are talking here about virtual cards. Cheesy



We need more explanation and asnwering some questions from CriptoDebit.
Yep, many questions about how this actually works and about potential issues. I see that they have telegram contact so in case he doesn't answer here soon I'll try to contact him that way. In his other thread OP wrote that they are live for only couple of days with several dozens of cards issued so far so I would be very careful with this.

Hi Rikafip,

I forgot that we also have a post here in the exchange topic, I think I answered your questions in the other topic. If you have any more questions, let us know.

Best,
CriptoDebit.com
legendary
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If I understand correctly this is only VIRTUAL master cards (not physical plastic cards), and you can't use them on ATM as far as I know. unless they invent some virtual ATM's  Cheesy

Ah yes you are right, that was a total brainfart, we are talking here about virtual cards. Cheesy



We need more explanation and asnwering some questions from CriptoDebit.
Yep, many questions about how this actually works and about potential issues. I see that they have telegram contact so in case he doesn't answer here soon I'll try to contact him that way. In his other thread OP wrote that they are live for only couple of days with several dozens of cards issued so far so I would be very careful with this.
legendary
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They do mentioned on their website that for PayPal, Sepa and Wire transfers you will have to go through KYC verification so I guess KYC-less withdraw  works only via ATM, if its available as I see no mention of that.
If I understand correctly this is only VIRTUAL master cards (not physical plastic cards), and you can't use them on ATM as far as I know. unless they invent some virtual ATM's  Cheesy
When I said transaction fees I meant to say fees that are paid for online purchases, for purchasing goods are services.
We need more explanation and asnwering some questions from CriptoDebit.
legendary
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3. Of course, Mastercard knows about this program, otherwise we wouldn't be able to issue these cards. We are licensed issuers. (There are prepaid cards you can buy for cash, we just use crypto)
Can you please point me that program in which Mastercard offers debit cards without KYC requirement? It would be also good if you can provide some proof about licensed issuer. AFAIK, it's possible to get prepaid cards without documents or verification but you explicitly said on the website that your cards are not prepaid but legit debit cards. Or you consider them debit as user has to have account on your website, from which funds are spent?


I don't know how it's possible for this virtual card to work without KYC or sending any personal information, but withdrawing money from card using with Sepa, Wire Transfer and PayPal will still require KYC verification.
They do mention on their website that for PayPal, Sepa and Wire transfers you will have to go through KYC verification so I guess KYC-less withdraw  works only via ATM, if its available as I see no mention of that

This card service sounds very promising until you check the fees but I guess that's the price you have to pay if you want anonymity while using debit card. That is, if what they are claiming is true and this things works as advertised.
legendary
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I don't know how it's possible for this virtual card to work without KYC or sending any personal information, but withdrawing money from card using with Sepa, Wire Transfer and PayPal will still require KYC verification.
I think that 15% to 20% + $5 withdrawal fees are a bit higher, so I would never use it for this but only for online payments.
5% funding fee with cryptocurrency is fine, but I think it could be lower when we compare that with other crypto cards (but they need KYC).
If I understand it correctly it seems that you are accepting Lightning Network payments along with regular Bitcoin.
Do you charge any other hidden or transaction fees?

PS
I would like to see some special discount promotion or free cards for bitcointalk forum members and testing this cards.

   

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According to your website ---> https://www.criptodebit.com/:

Shop everywhere Mastercard cards are accepted, including: eBay, Airbnb, Walmart, Etsy, Amazon, Doordash, Facebook, PayPal.

Can you prove and guarantee that the card will work on all these sites without problems?
Can I customize the card with a specific name? Or does it come ready-made with other usernames.
Not asking for identity verification is against the financial system. What will you do if Visa or MasterCard discovers that you are issuing cards without identity verification?
Will you refund the money if the cards do not work in the above sites?
What is your policy with data? privacy?

Hi, thank you for your interest. Let me answer your questions.

1. Yes, we can guarantee that our cards are accepted wherever Mastercard is accepted. We can guarantee that because we are the only service that provides OTP (3d secure) verification.
2. Yes when you buy a card you can enter any alias or name on the card you want.
3. Of course, Mastercard knows about this program, otherwise we wouldn't be able to issue these cards. We are licensed issuers. (There are prepaid cards you can buy for cash, we just use crypto)
4. Absolutely !
5. Our up-to-date privacy policy can be found on: https://criptodebit.com/privacy-policy.html

I hope I answered all your questions, let me know if you have any other questions !
legendary
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According to your website ---> https://www.criptodebit.com/:

Shop everywhere Mastercard cards are accepted, including: eBay, Airbnb, Walmart, Etsy, Amazon, Doordash, Facebook, PayPal.

Can you prove and guarantee that the card will work on all these sites without problems?
Can I customize the card with a specific name? Or does it come ready-made with other usernames.
Not asking for identity verification is against the financial system. What will you do if Visa or MasterCard discovers that you are issuing cards without identity verification?
Will you refund the money if the cards do not work in the above sites?
What is your policy with data? privacy?
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There are not 1 scam accusations against us. These 2 users gave us negative feedback  without ever using our platform.
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