During TSLA earnings call (not sure if transcript is available yet) Musk said that CT may launch "hopefully" next year and one of the main issues is pricing.
So much for a $40k tonka truck.
Topic: ~ Buying a TESLA CYBERTRUCK with BITCOIN ~ - page 15. (Read 7475 times)
^ I hope everyone that preordered ahead of me goes elsewhere. I think most who preordered realize the innovation of the exoskeleton and would laugh at any comparison to an F-150. Personally, I don’t even want an F-150 and wouldn’t trade the car I have now for it as there’s no real innovation there, but I’ll wait another 2 years for the Cybertruck if I have to. I think it’s tough for many people to realize innovation before it’s demonstrated to them, which is why there are still people who don’t realize this will be the greatest civilian vehicle ever produced.
I am thinking that when they announced it, it was the only thing for a vehicle like that.
Now that there are many more electric pickups on the market and coming to the market it has to be better.
This has always been the issue with vehicles that are announced way ahead of time, by the time they get into production, years later it's no longer the latest and greatest since so much time has passed.
And, with something like this, and this is just my opinion, we don't know the real number of reservations. They just asked for $100 down, that really is throwaway money for a lot of people. With something like the F-150 being available in the next few months and the GM in a little over a year it puts Tesla in a hard position. Outside of the looks, which most people who are buying a pickup for work really don't care about, it's just another tool. And I think there are a lot of people who are missing that. I can point to 2 people who wanted one, because they wanted an electric pickup. They don't need the range, they don't care about the looks, it's a TOOL to get their ladders and saws and wood and pipes from point a to point b. For the most part even a 100 mile range is overkill. They don't need 3000lb of cargo 1/2 ton or 1 ton is more then enough. And so on. So when it was the only game in town they got a lot of hype and reservations. Now they might be seeing those numbers shrink as people go elsewhere.
Personally, and I think I am the only person on the planet who thinks this, I would love it if Hyundai made an electric Santa Cruz. Would sell my car and get one tomorrow.
Because that is what I need, a small electric pickup. I don't need larger. I need smaller. But, I do believe that I am a VERY small segment of the population.
-Dave
Now that there are many more electric pickups on the market and coming to the market it has to be better.
This has always been the issue with vehicles that are announced way ahead of time, by the time they get into production, years later it's no longer the latest and greatest since so much time has passed.
And, with something like this, and this is just my opinion, we don't know the real number of reservations. They just asked for $100 down, that really is throwaway money for a lot of people. With something like the F-150 being available in the next few months and the GM in a little over a year it puts Tesla in a hard position. Outside of the looks, which most people who are buying a pickup for work really don't care about, it's just another tool. And I think there are a lot of people who are missing that. I can point to 2 people who wanted one, because they wanted an electric pickup. They don't need the range, they don't care about the looks, it's a TOOL to get their ladders and saws and wood and pipes from point a to point b. For the most part even a 100 mile range is overkill. They don't need 3000lb of cargo 1/2 ton or 1 ton is more then enough. And so on. So when it was the only game in town they got a lot of hype and reservations. Now they might be seeing those numbers shrink as people go elsewhere.
Personally, and I think I am the only person on the planet who thinks this, I would love it if Hyundai made an electric Santa Cruz. Would sell my car and get one tomorrow.
Because that is what I need, a small electric pickup. I don't need larger. I need smaller. But, I do believe that I am a VERY small segment of the population.
-Dave
With the mess that is our current supply chain, grocery stores can’t even keep items on the shelf. I can only imagine the difficulties and delays that is costing companies like Tesla. I wouldn’t be surprised if we had to wait for a new president that has a clue to fix the mess at the ports before things can even start making their way back to normal. Until then, we wait for this monster of a vehicle to be produced and enjoy the leaks.
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Tesla wants to make changes to the Cybertruck's features and functions in order to make what the source called a 'more compelling' product.
Yeah that's PR bullshit... they got (allegedly) so many preorders that it must be already very compelling, just make it and sell it, and count the billions pouring in.
Except they can't, can they.
Telsa delays production of Cybertruck to 2023: source
https://news.yahoo.com/telsa-delays-production-cybertruck-2023-051515648.html
Sorry, not some pleasant news. But imho also far from unexpected. I guess that those waiting need more hope and patience.
On the other hand, with some luck, it may cost way less bitcoin to buy it
https://news.yahoo.com/telsa-delays-production-cybertruck-2023-051515648.html
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A source exclusively told Reuters on Thursday that a plan to begin production later this year was pushed back to early 2023.
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Tesla wants to make changes to the Cybertruck's features and functions in order to make what the source called a 'more compelling' product.
Sorry, not some pleasant news. But imho also far from unexpected. I guess that those waiting need more hope and patience.
On the other hand, with some luck, it may cost way less bitcoin to buy it
I'm starting to wonder if the Cybertruck will be completely different by the time it actually gets made commercially or look not much like the prototypes. The biggest thing I like about it is how revolutionary it is in design and it doesn't look like any other vehicle and could be something out of a sci-fi movie ala Blade Runner. Another thing that worries me is it might not even be street-legal in the UK:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/12/16/tesla-cybertruck-not-street-legal-in-eu/?sh=61072b544d8b
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The European Commission has strict automotive testing and safety protocols, and the Cybertruck—as is—would fail many of them, including increasingly stringent pedestrian and cyclist protection standards. Perhaps when it finally reaches the market sometime in 2021 or 2022, the futuristic-looking electric vehicle will have been modified to meet EU standards, but that would mean significant changes having to be made to the Cybertruck’s angular stainless-steel shell.
And it’s the Blade Runner-style aesthetics that are wowing audiences, including Blade Runner’s artistic director Syd Mead. He told Business Insider that Elon Musk’s latest toy was “stylistically breathtaking.”
That it may be, but, to be driven in Europe, the Cybertruck would need to be redesigned in different materials. Or, perhaps Tesla founder and CEO Elon Musk is banking on the Cybertruck being sold in the U.S. only? Many motor vehicles in the U.S. are exempt from pedestrian protection protocols.
According to EU auto standards expert Stefan Teller the Cybertruck would have to undergo “major modifications to the basic structure” because the Cybertruck “contradicts the European security philosophy.”
And it’s the Blade Runner-style aesthetics that are wowing audiences, including Blade Runner’s artistic director Syd Mead. He told Business Insider that Elon Musk’s latest toy was “stylistically breathtaking.”
That it may be, but, to be driven in Europe, the Cybertruck would need to be redesigned in different materials. Or, perhaps Tesla founder and CEO Elon Musk is banking on the Cybertruck being sold in the U.S. only? Many motor vehicles in the U.S. are exempt from pedestrian protection protocols.
According to EU auto standards expert Stefan Teller the Cybertruck would have to undergo “major modifications to the basic structure” because the Cybertruck “contradicts the European security philosophy.”
Though maybe the UK doesn't have to abide by European Union standards now after Brexit, but I'm not sure Elon would go to the trouble of changing all that stuff just so it could be sold in Europe. It seems like it would need a from-the-ground-up overhaul just to be legal and it might not even be financially worth doing so. Trucks aren't as popular in the UK as elsewhere and the pre-order stats for Europe pale in comparison to North America:
https://electrek.co/2020/03/28/tesla-cybertruck-top-10-countries-reserving-electric-pickup-truck/
Top 10 countries for Cybertruck pre-orders
1 United States (76.25%)
2 Canada (10.43%)
3 Australia (3.16%)
4 United Kingdom (1.39%)
5 Norway (1.11%)
6 Germany (1.05%)
7 Sweden (0.83%)
8 Netherlands (0.67%)
9 France (0.44%)
10 Iceland (0.44%)
Might be a problem with the batteries 
Sorry .. couldn’t help myself
Sorry .. couldn’t help myself
Telsa delays production of Cybertruck to 2023: source
https://news.yahoo.com/telsa-delays-production-cybertruck-2023-051515648.html
Sorry, not some pleasant news. But imho also far from unexpected. I guess that those waiting need more hope and patience.
On the other hand, with some luck, it may cost way less bitcoin to buy it
https://news.yahoo.com/telsa-delays-production-cybertruck-2023-051515648.html
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A source exclusively told Reuters on Thursday that a plan to begin production later this year was pushed back to early 2023.
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Tesla wants to make changes to the Cybertruck's features and functions in order to make what the source called a 'more compelling' product.
Sorry, not some pleasant news. But imho also far from unexpected. I guess that those waiting need more hope and patience.
On the other hand, with some luck, it may cost way less bitcoin to buy it
A relative of mine is buying one. I think it's ugly.
There's been a lot of talk about the giant windshield wiper on the latest cybertruck prototype. People were hoping for lasers to remove water from the windshield after a Tesla patent on the process was made public. There is still hope though, as Elon made a couple of tweets addressing the subject for those who found the windshield wiper pictured in the last post to be abhorrent.
I still don't think Tesla is going to reinvent the windshield wiper with lasers, but you gotta give it to Elon to fuel the fire when he sees an opportunity. I love that about him.
I still don't think Tesla is going to reinvent the windshield wiper with lasers, but you gotta give it to Elon to fuel the fire when he sees an opportunity. I love that about him.
Couldn't they make it telescopic? I.e it's a third of the size or so but it can extend and retract when needed or not? It does look pretty unsightly right now.
There has been talk that the windshield wiper may utilize a different patent of Tesla's known as the Regen Wiper Blade. One where the force of the wind pushes the wiper up and that energy is captured and used to help power the system. Basically turns the windshield wiper into a wind turbine. This seems a little far fetched to me, but no more than using lasers instead of a wiper.
That doesn't sound feasible or practical to me.
I'm not a Tesla fanboy or even fan and their other cars look average and overpriced to me, but I love everything about the Cybertruck and would certainly buy one if they accepted bitcoin again. My only fear is that they won't be street legal in the UK. They're going to have to scale it down even further to make it viable for UK's smaller/narrower roads.
There has been talk that the windshield wiper may utilize a different patent of Tesla's known as the Regen Wiper Blade. One where the force of the wind pushes the wiper up and that energy is captured and used to help power the system. Basically turns the windshield wiper into a wind turbine. This seems a little far fetched to me, but no more than using lasers instead of a wiper. Elon continues to claim the Cybertruck will be a technological powerhouse, so we will see...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w9W6ISh5hE
Talk about the wiper blade system starts at 7:27.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w9W6ISh5hE
Talk about the wiper blade system starts at 7:27.
The windshield wiper is longer than the truck bed LOL. I think this video made Ford execs really happy. They have a real electric truck coming and this just shows what happens when a 5-year old's drawing meets reality.
Although to be fair to Elon, if not for those pesky government regulations, Tesla fanboys would buy the truck even without wipers. Or side mirrors.
Although to be fair to Elon, if not for those pesky government regulations, Tesla fanboys would buy the truck even without wipers. Or side mirrors.
There's been a lot of talk about the giant windshield wiper on the latest cybertruck prototype. People were hoping for lasers to remove water from the windshield after a Tesla patent on the process was made public. There is still hope though, as Elon made a couple of tweets addressing the subject for those who found the windshield wiper pictured in the last post to be abhorrent.
"There will be a few tweaks before production"
"Lasers can do anything"
"That is not the production wiper"
I still don't think Tesla is going to reinvent the windshield wiper with lasers, but you gotta give it to Elon to fuel the fire when he sees an opportunity. I love that about him.
"There will be a few tweaks before production"
"Lasers can do anything"
"That is not the production wiper"
I still don't think Tesla is going to reinvent the windshield wiper with lasers, but you gotta give it to Elon to fuel the fire when he sees an opportunity. I love that about him.
Cybertruck caught in 4K...
https://electrek.co/2021/12/10/tesla-cybertruck-updated-design-spotted-test-track/
Not sure how I feel about the current windshield wiper solution, but you can see from the progress they've made that this thing may even meet the street legal requirements. It appears they may have changed the headlights as well from other pictures I saw. This could very well be the first glimpse of the production model we've seen to date and hopefully that means the assembly line will get moving soon.
https://electrek.co/2021/12/10/tesla-cybertruck-updated-design-spotted-test-track/
Not sure how I feel about the current windshield wiper solution, but you can see from the progress they've made that this thing may even meet the street legal requirements. It appears they may have changed the headlights as well from other pictures I saw. This could very well be the first glimpse of the production model we've seen to date and hopefully that means the assembly line will get moving soon.
did you see the video when they were showcasing and broke the unbreakable window! Great idea, just a bit early.
Yup. I even heard Elon’s explanation of why it broke and that they fixed the issue with the doors breaking the glass prior to the ball being thrown due to the side impact of the sledgehammer.
My concern now is if this new 4-motor variant is going to be the first to be manufactured, how can I switch my order so I don’t have to wait another 2 years and will the self driving package stay at the discounted price as well as me keeping my place in line.
In a tweet storm today Elon explained why the cybertruck models have been removed. Apparently they’re going to get rid of the single engine model and adding a 4-motor version. No idea how this will effect preorders as obviously something will need to be done. Hopefully we get the opportunity to upgrade without losing our spot in line. The 3-motor version was so insane I think a 4-motor version might have such unreal statistics it might be a must have.
https://twitter.com/wholemarsblog/status/1466485450638458880?s=21
https://twitter.com/wholemarsblog/status/1466485450638458880?s=21
It looks like Tesla has removed all the options from the Cybertruck preordering page. There is no mention of the different models whatsoever on the ordering page now. That’s an interesting development that hasn’t been seen before with other models. Hopefully it means they’re about to add a revamped page to finalize all the options and not bad news involving more delays.
When Bitcoin price was about $40k then Elon car price may be +6 btc but now Bitcoin price more than $65k today ...so page may update running weeks with price details...I’m not sure exactly what you’re saying, but I doubt it’s any technical issue keeping them from updating the page. If I’m able to track the price in BTC then I’m sure Tesla can do it with no problem. I think more likely they’re trying to discourage preorders since they’ll never be able to ship them all.
Price of Cybertruck when ordered: 6.59229 BTC
Current price of my Cybertruck:
Current price of my Cybertruck:
It looks like Tesla has removed all the options from the Cybertruck preordering page. There is no mention of the different models whatsoever on the ordering page now. That’s an interesting development that hasn’t been seen before with other models. Hopefully it means they’re about to add a revamped page to finalize all the options and not bad news involving more delays.
When Bitcoin price was about $40k then Elon car price may be +6 btc but now Bitcoin price more than $65k today ...so page may update running weeks with price details...
It looks like Tesla has removed all the options from the Cybertruck preordering page. There is no mention of the different models whatsoever on the ordering page now. That’s an interesting development that hasn’t been seen before with other models. Hopefully it means they’re about to add a revamped page to finalize all the options and not bad news involving more delays.
It makes sense though, at least from a moral point of view. I hate when the latest gadgets, and technologies go to scalpers, and they effectively rip off the public that are so desperate for it. Actually, while I hate the practice, I still blame the people willing to pay that amount I think.
You could argue he's just trying to give an excuse for delays in production, but I think its plausible to believe he's doing it for his reason given. It also looks great on Tesla, shows that they think about the customers which further increases sales.
You could argue he's just trying to give an excuse for delays in production, but I think its plausible to believe he's doing it for his reason given. It also looks great on Tesla, shows that they think about the customers which further increases sales.
I think it's probably a bit of both. Sure, he could produce a few Cybertrucks now but the risk far outweighs any potential reward, to which I would argue there is none in shipping a few units now. So obviously he's going to wait until they can get production going at full scale before doing anything. The benefit of that is he is able to take the moral high road and give himself a pat on the back while making it seem like preorders are getting a million dollar vehicle for $40K. Wins all around.
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