Topic: Buying of merits thread. If you have proof post it here and let them be tagged (Read 749 times)

I don't know, but I suspect that the merit requirement for receiving payment would have a lot of consequences, forcing the merit buying and selling back to telegram and the forum. Not having merit does not necessarily mean that the poster is shit or that the post content is not good enough; in the gambling section, we have tons of quality discussion going on, and we are used to the fact that gambling posts rarely get merit because we do not have a merit source. I understand you wanted to try something different than other managers, but the rules will not benefit the forum in the long run unless you enjoy your participants putting in effort only to walk away with half the money for failing get a single merit.

I'm a full-time gambling poster, and I can tell you that the gambling board accounts for only 0.2% of my total merit, despite the fact that i posts their the most since I became Peter Drury  and buwaytres is ( Jim Begling). Don't you think the merit requirement is too stringent? Personally, I would have preferred a monthly target of at least 5 merit for a member to remain in the campaign. Life on the gambling board is more difficult than you think, especially for those who came for the merits..

your campaign, your rules but theymos will not like members getting tagged for merit exchange.

If I recall correctly, I had a similar conversation with JollyGood about having a merit source on the gambling section. I can't believe we have so many good posters on that board and yet the merit distribution is the lowest among other sub-boards..

Today I received a message from a user on telegram about a user in the winz.io campaign who was buying merits. I spoke with the user and told them, "Without proof there is nothing I can do".

After speaking with this user, I also decided to message the person he was referring to as well as look into his merit history. While looking into his merit history I seen 2 suspicious profiles

What theymos said is that if someone negative tagged someone else for things concerning merit other than buying merit they were not going to be in DT for long. I'm speaking from memory but I'm sure he said something like that. I imagine someone with a facility for finding quotes like LoyceV can provide the quote here.

So anything that isn't merit buying and selling, he doesn't see as a big deal.

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

There have been so many cases of suspected merit abuse reported in various threads over the years that I'd bet it's well over 100.  I'm sure it would be more than that were it not for the fact that Theymos told the community not to make a big deal about it--but either way, if the community wants to start tagging merit abusers with enough evidence against them, I sure as hell would be fine with it and if the forum detectives start looking closely enough I've no doubt this thread would end up with 1000 pages within a year.

There have been so many cases of suspected merit abuse reported in various threads over the years that I'd bet it's well over 100.  I'm sure it would be more than that were it not for the fact that Theymos told the community not to make a big deal about it--but either way, if the community wants to start tagging merit abusers with enough evidence against them, I sure as hell would be fine with it and if the forum detectives start looking closely enough I've no doubt this thread would end up with 1000 pages within a year.

I've just tagged the three of them, but I doubt very much that we will be able to catch many cases.

I guess this is a consequence of your weekly merit requirement for the campaign.

It is the fault of the community, not of the merit buyers. The users in question of buying had decent posts, but nobody cared to send any kind of merit. For them there is no merit receiving so they can't send to others as well. Because merit is moving arround for some users only 10-20 per year makes it impossible to circulate and attract new users not to look to buy.

So overall, blame yourselves.

The users in question of buying had decent posts, but nobody cared to send any kind of merit.

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I'll suggest that to achieve your aim, pay your participants per post. If it's $1 per post and maximum of 25 posts per week. Then a poster makes 25 posts in all and out of which is 17 quality post, you pay them $17. Next week, they will pay attention to their post quality.

Positive for the forum? Yes and no I suppose. Yes, because I feel like it made some users care a little more about their quality, but no because I think it opened the door for people to figure ways around it.

...I decided in the end that keeping the rule as is was going to do more harm than good though. My end goal was to try to improve quality, not to install fear and deception into users.

manager, after you catch it and remove it from your campaign. now he switches to promote 1xbit casino scam. with this being clear, he is indeed on the forum just for the money. even after the account was tagged, now he is trying to destroy it.
it shows he is making every effort to stay in your campaign including buying merit. or maybe a merit transaction with the alt account.

I'll be tagging all 3 accounts as cheating and merit selling should not be tolerated. If any of you have proof of this type of activity, feel free to post here and help stop these cheaters.

If you look at history: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45759941, @Mamun74 bad, he has multiple accounts, it's hard to say he bought (Merit), although he admits he did.

Positive for the forum? Yes and no I suppose. Yes, because I feel like it made some users care a little more about their quality, but no because I think it opened the door for people to figure ways around it.

Looking at the merit histories, it's very curious to me that some users earned exactly 1 merit each week. Does that instantly make them a cheater, no but it makes me want to pay attention to them more and see if my hunch is correct. I decided in the end that keeping the rule as is was going to do more harm than good though. My end goal was to try to improve quality, not to install fear and deception into users.