Topic: c4n10's Alt-Coin Creation Service - Cheaper Than Hazard's!!! - page 2. (Read 3583 times)

ummm.... you need to write out a detailed break down of your premine, and calculate the percentage of the total coins your currency will be. be honest and straight up. if you decide to keep 20,000 coins for yourself, just put it on the list. "20k for me". For example, my coin that released recently "Nanotokens" had a premine of 500k, with my share being 24,500. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nanotokens-information-thread-moved-242491 people still mine it and its going strong despite a few hiccups here and there. you can do a premine as long as you are honest and not over extravagant or greedy. as a personal suggestion, i'd recommend spreading a great deal of the premine around to the people who help you build the coin and the early adopters, as they are less likely to dump than a coin hopper will be. if you have the best intentions it will probably work out in the end. but if you premine 500k and tell people you premined 200k, they are gonna catch you in a lie and your coin will be done. Many have lied about their premines and as soon as you are caught 99.9% of the time your coin is dead.

Not trying to be an ass but if you release a coin with 10% going into a "miners fund" it will be raked over the coals and will die. That is way too much to take from the miners who use their equipment and electricity. There was another coin that attempted something like this, I believe it was Quantumcoin.

Even a 10% pre-mine would be way too much of a pre-mine and the coin will die. Just saying.

One thing you could do is use Quantumcoin's source and work from there but like I told the developer of that coin, 0.5% would be "reasonable".

There is also another problem you may come across if you take this route and I have come across this issue with having too many transactions in a single wallet which causes the client to come to a crawl after about 15K transactions. So, if you take a 0.5% cut from every block mined you will build up to 15K transactions very quickly, so watch for that.

i got about 4 or 5 sentences in and i already see a problem. its impossible(as far as i know but shake and mudda would know more about it) because there is no way to pregenerate an address prior to mining the genesis block. what you could do however, is mine the genesis block then immediately stop and create an address. then, enter your bits of code for your 10% system and recompile and distribute that client. it might work. my knowledge is to limited to know, but shake and mudd probably will.

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I don't really understand what you're saying but its similar to what Shakazula said.  So you're saying basically premine 10% of the coins and out them in a viewable public wallet, right.

That would be the most simple way but I hate the idea of premining cause all pump and dumpers have done that.  There had to be a way to do this and still have people trust that you're not trying to scam them.  Man!!!

i got about 4 or 5 sentences in and i already see a problem. its impossible(as far as i know but shake and mudda would know more about it) because there is no way to pregenerate an address prior to mining the genesis block. what you could do however, is mine the genesis block then immediately stop and create an address. then, enter your bits of code for your 10% system and recompile and distribute that client. it might work. my knowledge is to limited to know, but shake and mudd probably will

Ahahahhaahaaaa.  So true.   Mine leave the yard tools in the rain until they rust.

Hey, you said you're a programmer, right.  And I think you said or someone else said you know Shakazula.

I want to implement a reward system where 10% of all mined coins will go into a pool or a public wallet so everyone can see I'm not spending it and then (because this is a miners coin) the miners will decide the most fair way to distribute these free coins amongst themselves.  

Problem is Shakazula is running into a snag - coding this so 10% of the mined coins goes into a separate wallet is a problem.  And the only other option is a premine and I really want to avoid that as that's the biggest sign if a pump and dump.

Can you talk to him if you really are friends and see if the between the two of you maybe a solution can be found?  Anything but a premine and the wallet has to be public so people can clearly see the coins are there and they're there specifically for the miners.

I really want to add this feature to further help the average, new and small miners who can't catch a break in such a tough industry that keeps getting more and more difficult.  This 10% would be a leveling factor and it would be for everyone even the rich, but the the poor, being a flat (across the board) reward system, would mean a lot more on a % relative basis for the smaller miner.

This coin can help miners so much at least in my mind, especially if you knew the aspects of the VGB protocol which makes a coin mineable, more rewarding and fun even as the difficulty approaching infinity.  

Please look into it if you know Shakazula pretty well and please keep the details on the down low and if I can pay you something I will I'm just on a very strict budget right now since I'm not working a regular job.  

Thanks a lot, muddafudda.  Lol.....that just doesn't sound right.  Ha!

you hang around here long enough, and everyone starts to become your friend and it's really like a big family, except for the scammers. they're like that relative that borrows your lawnmower and never returns it.

Hey, somebody backed your name up, but it was too late I went with another reputable guy. 

But tell me, What is a support payment option?

I went with someone else who also has a good name in this alt coin community and I think he's a programmer.

Let me be honest - the reason I didn't go with you was your screen name.  It's funny and I'd probably choose something similar in my 20's and even 30's before I got married.

But when dealing with strangers and you need to trust them with an idea which may be your only edge for a new coin or having to say, pay upfront - it's hard to do that when the counter party is muddafudda.  lol!

Lol...your name cracks me up but until this other guy vouched for you there was no way I could have really trusted you.  But you are my kind of person - not worried about what other people think and it's those guys that naturally revolt against the Status Quo, naturally take high but calculated risks, and tend to be the most creative and that's the kind of talent I need if I do launch a coin, creative, enigmatic openly outspoken and honest men.

I feel the guy I went with is exactly that kind of guy and you seem to be similar to him.  Wouldn't surprise me if you two are buddies.  Ha!

That said, I'm curious what your payment plan you mention is exactly cause I am relatively short on money.

Also, are you self taught or did you go to college.  Just curious - I've been blown away by self taught hackers.

Thanks again.

Thanks so much.  I'm not an a-hole developer wannabe.  I'm humbled csuse I'm a fish out of water here and I'm so greatful  to get help.

In fact the reason I hired Shakazula over c4n10 who is a lot cheaper was integrity.

I did a simple thing for Shakazula and answered a couple simple questions man and he sent me a reward or 10,000 DVC.

I have never turned away a newbie, an ugly rude habit very common on these boards, I try to help everyone but not no one has ever given given me a single tip for my help snd advice and frankly I never expected it.   But Shakazula did, and This says a lot about a man's character and honesty so as soon as I found out he can program he was the guy for me even though I'm tight with money and it's gonna cost me more.

 If I don't have enough for the features I want - I will not cut this coin short and insult the very miners I'm trying to help, I'll borrow money or work some deal out with Shakazula.  When I do something I try my hardest to make the best I can with the resources and whatever talent and skills God has given me.  Unfortunately, those talents and skills don't involve any programming knowledge.  Ha!

To me, honesty and integrity is priceless.   Thanks to all who spoke up, most people these days are fearful to speak up for anyone and that's not right. 

shakezula and muddafudda are both my friends. i hold them both in the same esteem. they both are extremely busy as they have developed quite a few coins and shakezula has a tendency to take over dead coins and resurrect them. i know he's busy resurrecting franko and hypercoin atm so you might want to contact muddafudda. let me be clear though, muddafudda is a very experienced programmer. you will get out of working with him what you put in, meaning don't go in with unrealistic expectations. he'll tell you straight up whats possible and what's not. be respectful and don't be pushy, these things can take as little as a few hours to as great as few weeks or more depending on how intricate and unique of a coin you want. its quite a bit of work just getting a coin off the ground, and there are many sleepless nights spend monitoring network hashrate and the irc channels for potential threats. best of luck.

r3wt

Man, muddafudda offered help (for a fee of course) but his name scared me away.

Is Shakezula better than muddafudda?  I'm paying more than what hazard charges and if I had a regular Job I wouldn't care but since I don't I just wanna make sure I get the best since I'm paying for it.

Shakezula has integrity I'll say that.  And that's harder to find than any talent, college degree or skill in the world.  So on that note, I'm sticking with Shakazula.

Thanks for the input though.

i vouch for shakezula over hazard. i'm not familiar with c4n10's work so i can't say about him. but shakezula is the man. if things don't work out with him, contact the user "muddafudda" he's top notch but be respectful. tell him r3wt sent you.

Did you not get my PM?
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Yes, I responded - holla back.  Your offer was quite a bit more than C4n10's but if you can actually program and add features then we'll work out some kind of deal.  The fact you tipped me for mere friendly advice goes a long way with me for integrity.  I just don't want a pure cut and paste job, I would really like something new to this coin.

Besides my idea for a VGB protocol feature which some may love while other may be indifferent.  Although I can't imagine anyone hating it, not even the big miners since (relatively speaking) this VGB protocol would benefit the small miner more, on a % basis.

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Man, where's the good coin builders at, sincere, easy to talk to. Fair and secretive.  This sucks.

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Did you not get my PM?

Can you please PM me your offer details.  Prices etc.  I'd like to offer a decent coin but I'm limited on funds but I would like to add some features. Are there any other coins you've launched before for anyone.  As a reference?  No offense but  I don't want to get ripped off and it seems to happen a lot.

C4N10, what is your Skype name?

Someone already did, the foo bar coin guide

Good luck getting in touch with any of these guys. Offers there while im still doing it, not for much longer though

Are you taking to me?

It's so hard to trust guys with money an ideas when your name is a curse anagram.

Man, where's the good coin builders at, sincere, easy to talk to. Fair and secretive.  This sucks.

I'm getting ready to start learning who to program, csuse this is a joke.

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And what do you charge compared to c4n10, his fees are reasonable.  TIA!

Pay me.  I even offer a support payment option. Pm me.

That sucks.  Where's a third option.  There's obviously a market for this.  Somebody?