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Topic: California Declaratioin of Independence - page 3. (Read 2344 times)

legendary
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November 13, 2016, 12:49:24 PM
#15
i for one will enjoy seeing the silicon valley psychos given a good squeeze. they're at the pointy end of turning most of the world into a broke ass uber surveilled wasteland. it's inevitable anyway but let's make them suffer for it in the meantime.
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 100
November 13, 2016, 10:47:30 AM
#14
I think the protests after some time will cease. If the police will not use the brutal crackdown. Because cruelty begets cruelty. And before the civil war is not far away!
sr. member
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Merit: 252
November 13, 2016, 10:08:07 AM
#13
California is already bankrupt. What they will do after seceding from the United States? How they are going to provide welfare payments and food stamps to millions of individuals, without handouts from the federal government? On the other hand, Trump may welcome this move. Without California's electoral votes, Republicans are certain to win every single election in the future.

ahahah calper... and alll their pensions over 100k$ lol... such a shit hole. they shouldn't have the right to emigrate. those people are totally cray cray...
sr. member
Activity: 289
Merit: 250
November 13, 2016, 10:02:30 AM
#12
California is already bankrupt. What they will do after seceding from the United States? How they are going to provide welfare payments and food stamps to millions of individuals, without handouts from the federal government? On the other hand, Trump may welcome this move. Without California's electoral votes, Republicans are certain to win every single election in the future.

Nice analysis Smiley I keep on reading this California Exit, but I do not think this will hppen. They are doing this protest since they can not accept Trump. I think democracy does not work this way, you have to accept the Presidential outcome even if it is not favorable to you IMHO.
I think in America it is time to review electoral legislation. I don't remember it was something like that. Initially not these provocateurs to put to the candidates. And now it's too late.
hero member
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Backed.Finance
November 13, 2016, 09:55:39 AM
#11
California is already bankrupt. What they will do after seceding from the United States? How they are going to provide welfare payments and food stamps to millions of individuals, without handouts from the federal government? On the other hand, Trump may welcome this move. Without California's electoral votes, Republicans are certain to win every single election in the future.

Nice analysis Smiley I keep on reading this California Exit, but I do not think this will hppen. They are doing this protest since they can not accept Trump. I think democracy does not work this way, you have to accept the Presidential outcome even if it is not favorable to you IMHO.
legendary
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Merit: 1004
November 13, 2016, 08:58:30 AM
#10
California is already bankrupt. What they will do after seceding from the United States? How they are going to provide welfare payments and food stamps to millions of individuals, without handouts from the federal government? On the other hand, Trump may welcome this move. Without California's electoral votes, Republicans are certain to win every single election in the future.

How they are going to provide welfare payments and food stamps to millions of individuals, without handouts from the federal government? In a few years after secession, it will turn to France then Greece then ultimately to Venezuela.
legendary
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November 13, 2016, 08:31:55 AM
#9
California is already bankrupt. What they will do after seceding from the United States? How they are going to provide welfare payments and food stamps to millions of individuals, without handouts from the federal government? On the other hand, Trump may welcome this move. Without California's electoral votes, Republicans are certain to win every single election in the future.
full member
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November 13, 2016, 08:28:26 AM
#8
I don't think it's a good idea. Instead of trying to ruin such a great country like America better watch out for trump at the first opportunity to impeach him.
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 252
November 13, 2016, 07:08:20 AM
#7
Nice thought, but there is no right to secede, as the Pledge of Allegiance states “one nation, under God, indivisible.”

with epstein and corzine free (corzine must be in the rings only explanation) there is no nation.

The California Republic will quit the US dollar system and switch to Bitcoins.

LOL. No.

These two things (California government and Bitcoin) do not mix.

I wish you guys all the best though. The smaller and more local the government, the better it can represent the desires of the people.

If if doesn't work out, the entire population of California can just move to Canada and I can finally surf the west coast!

L.A. the hive of the monarch programs. Don't forget all the wastes of fuku trails to the west coast (dead bio accumulated and co) be safe.



full member
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November 13, 2016, 03:16:32 AM
#6
California just so decided to protest the new government. Nothing will come of it
legendary
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November 13, 2016, 01:31:50 AM
#5
The California Republic will quit the US dollar system and switch to Bitcoins.

LOL. No.

These two things (California government and Bitcoin) do not mix.

I wish you guys all the best though. The smaller and more local the government, the better it can represent the desires of the people.

If if doesn't work out, the entire population of California can just move to Canada and I can finally surf the west coast!
sr. member
Activity: 259
Merit: 250
November 13, 2016, 01:11:13 AM
#4
Didn't Texas want this before? I doubt it will pass.
legendary
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Merit: 1004
November 13, 2016, 01:04:16 AM
#3
Nice thought, but there is no right to secede, as the Pledge of Allegiance states “one nation, under God, indivisible.”
sr. member
Activity: 560
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November 12, 2016, 09:14:56 AM
#2
would be a massive economy, and if expanded along the sea board...
newbie
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November 12, 2016, 07:37:56 AM
#1
As Donald Trump's policies and speeches are unwelcome by Californians, they are voting the State of California out of the Federal Government. The California Republic will quit the US dollar system and switch to Bitcoins. Below is the full text of their declaration of independence. Please go to http://caindependence.me.pn to support the new California Republic.

California Declaration of Independence

In Congress, November 11, 2016.

The unanimous Declaration of the State of California, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these States; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the soon-to-be King of the United States is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has proposed to create a database system to track Muslims in the U.S.

He has advocated waterboarding as punishment even if it doesn’t help gain information, because “they deserve it anyway”.

He has been a defendant in more than 3500 lawsuits; and when confronted, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has barred reporters from campaign events for unfavorable coverage, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has praised totalitarianism and dictators, including Saddam Hussein, Muammar Qaddafi and Kim Jong-un.

He has described Fox debate moderator Megyn Kelly as having “blood coming out of her wherever”.

He has called Rosie O’Donnell a “big, fat pig”.

He has called Mexican immigrants “rapists” and “drug dealers” at announcement of campaign.

He has referred to 9/11 as 7-Eleven.

He has proposed to try U.S. citizens in Guantanamo Bay military tribunals.

He has suggested that supporters who attacked a homeless Hispanic man were “very passionate” and “love their country”.

He has claimed he’s donated $1 million to veterans’ groups, although none received any money until reporters began investigating.

He has insulted his opponents repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of becoming permanent residents.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing to release his tax returns.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for he frequently fired interns in his personal TV show without justifiable reasons.

He has erected a multitude of Trump buildings, and sent hither swarms of henchmen to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For instructing his security team to confiscate protesters’ coats and “throw them out into the cold”:

For attempting to instigate violence and conflict on election day by claiming that polling places are rigged for Hillary Clinton:

For having urged supporters to patrol polling places to combat “election fraud”:

For encouraging Second Amendment advocates shooting his opponent or her judicial appointees:

For proposing to change libel laws to make it easier to sue media organizations:

For proposing to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants:

For deriding people with disabilities:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has called for the construction of a wall across the U.S.-Mexico border to prevent immigration.

He has said the U.S. military would obey his orders regardless of their legality under the U.S. Constitution.

He has been changing his positions rapidly.

He has bragged about the size of his penis during a primary debate, yet he couldn’t prove it.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of Trumpkins to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Trumpanzees, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Lunacies We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A President whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our American brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the State of California, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Counties, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Counties are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the Federal Government, and that all political connection between them and the United States of America, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
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