It is a shame that it has devolved to this.
having a public voice, name and representation helps legitimize and increase adoption with the gen pop.
but having a "centralised" entity for a decentralised, disruptive platform is problematic as the best way to destroy a decentralised entity is to turn it centralised: it puts names and faces in the firing line. So, TBF needed to all be cleanskins, honest and with integrity.
Unfortunately this has not been the case and as such we have multiple scandals and the community turns on itself.
Topic: Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam. - page 9. (Read 22593 times)
I don't know anything about this foundation but it seems to me Bitcoin doesn't need any central committee or foundation cause once you get people with power then you have the potential for corruption. Bitcoin as a technology does away with people surely that the whole point.
+1
From the first time they have no meaning to exist, bitcoin is protected by itself.
Why is not the foundation investigating the gox fraud?
From the first time they have no meaning to exist, bitcoin is protected by itself.
Why is not the foundation investigating the gox fraud?
Hmmm, you ask that question, yet you know the answer already.
I must admit.
I have never heard of this Bitcoin Foundation before this post.
What is it that they do exactly?
I have never heard of this Bitcoin Foundation before this post.
What is it that they do exactly?
They enjoy a huge pile of BTC donated when it was cheap.
They get accused of massive conflicts of interest.
That is a fast, exact summary.
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It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
How about we forget about the Bitcoin Foundation and make our own. If you have a bitcoin address, you are a member
Anybody can have an address, that does not mean they understand anything about what is going on.
How about we forget about the Bitcoin Foundation and make our own. If you have a bitcoin address, you are a member
Yea, that's a great idea, leave block size as it is so you can cap out at 7 TPS and go nowhere. A limit like that could be reached within 1 year with people like Ebay, Amazon, etc signing on.
Well, I agree with you.
They gave their silver membership seal (aka license of Trust and Promotion) to several sites, but when users got scammed, they did nothing.
For example: Inputs.io https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253675.0
It's still there : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current
Oh btw, platinum member (mtgox) is not on the list anymore.
They gave their silver membership seal (aka license of Trust and Promotion) to several sites, but when users got scammed, they did nothing.
For example: Inputs.io https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253675.0
It's still there : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current
Oh btw, platinum member (mtgox) is not on the list anymore.
The most offensive part about this isn't that they STILL list stuff like GBBG, but the despicably silent way they go about removing the scams. Is BFL there anymore? No. The statement about how they pushed a scam and are sorry? Published the same place the reports were published. Gox is not there anymore? Whoa, the silence about it is deafening. Sort-of like bit scammers a la usagi or goat going through the forum and deleting their old posts pushing whatever random scam. Never happened, right?
To be clear I'm not pro or anti foundation.
Personally, I agree that they are not transparent enough, that's why I don't send them money.
OP has a point in this regard, but the drama is completely unnecessary considering that everyone is free to create "competition"...
Personally, I agree that they are not transparent enough, that's why I don't send them money.
OP has a point in this regard, but the drama is completely unnecessary considering that everyone is free to create "competition"...
What have the Romans ever done for us? 
? What do Romans have to do with the Bitcoin Foundation?
It was a monty python reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso
enjoy
Ah, that's why I don't know it. I can't stand Monty Python.
What have the Romans ever done for us?
? What do Romans have to do with the Bitcoin Foundation?
It was a monty python reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso
enjoy
What have the Romans ever done for us?
Can't tell if joking! (Mr. Popescu is Romanian, not Roman)
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
? What do Romans have to do with the Bitcoin Foundation?
Well, I agree with you.
They gave their silver membership seal (aka license of Trust and Promotion) to several sites, but when users got scammed, they did nothing.
For example: Inputs.io https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-inputsio-joins-bitcoin-foundation-as-silver-member-253675
It's still there : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current
Oh btw, platinum member (mtgox) is not on the list anymore.
That's just bad. Damn.They gave their silver membership seal (aka license of Trust and Promotion) to several sites, but when users got scammed, they did nothing.
For example: Inputs.io https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-inputsio-joins-bitcoin-foundation-as-silver-member-253675
It's still there : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current
Oh btw, platinum member (mtgox) is not on the list anymore.
What have the Romans ever done for us?
A lot. Please come back with a valid argument.
What have the Romans ever done for us?
Well, I agree with you.
They gave their silver membership seal (aka license of Trust and Promotion) to several sites, but when users got scammed, they did nothing.
For example: Inputs.io https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-inputsio-joins-bitcoin-foundation-as-silver-member-253675
It's still there : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current
Oh btw, platinum member (mtgox) is not on the list anymore.
Ps: Someone really needs to edit wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_Foundation (The Bitcoin Foundation is a charitable foundation) Charitable??
They gave their silver membership seal (aka license of Trust and Promotion) to several sites, but when users got scammed, they did nothing.
For example: Inputs.io https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-inputsio-joins-bitcoin-foundation-as-silver-member-253675
It's still there : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current
Oh btw, platinum member (mtgox) is not on the list anymore.
Ps: Someone really needs to edit wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_Foundation (The Bitcoin Foundation is a charitable foundation) Charitable??
Bitcoin still needs more hard forks
No, it does not. Nobody of any consequence runs anything past maybe 0.6 or so anyway. Just because a bunch of noobs with a bunch of dust downloaded the most recent release doesn't give it any sort of Bitcoin legitimacy. Currently the latest iOS and the latest bitcoin-qt are about equally relevant to Bitcoin, which is roughly epsilon.
Nice work on the rest of your bullshit. They aren't points; they roughly reduce to "Pirate was fine and if you don't like ponzis you can just not participate". This was thoroughly debunked two years ago. Read that once a day for the next six months, maybe you get it somehow. In any case shut the fuck up for the interval, you don't have anything to contribute here.
Yea, that's a great idea, leave block size as it is so you can cap out at 7 TPS and go nowhere. A limit like that could be reached within 1 year with people like Ebay, Amazon, etc signing on. Bitcoin still has it's training wheels on and isn't going to be anything of relevance without Gavin babysitting it for another year. You're basically someone attempting to profit off the backs of other people's work while criticizing them for it. It doesn't really matter if they're scammers or CIA agents, or whatever, the point still stands, you're the one getting a free ride. And please stop pretending to be a woman on the internet. If you are a woman, that's the most sociopathic, hateful, angry, psycho woman I've ever seen.
Actually this is what makes the scam more perfect. You're covering it up by 'using' money for this, while you're actually taking more for yourself.
Oh I am? That's quite a surprise, but I'll take it. Where do I pick up my share of the scam money?
So let's break down your statement and associated premises.
1. There is a grand scam. But you can't explain it because it is so....?
2. There is a coverup. The proof of the coverup is the denial of the grand scam.
3. I'm involved and taking the money for myself. What money, I have no clue?
(badly written sentence).Let's say the CEO of TBF is covering it up...
I'm not blindly defending the foundation here. The crap with Charlie was ridiculous and criminal. But that was a shock to BF members also. Not having a foundation or foundations (the more the better IMO) means surrendering your rights to the ignorant whims of policy makers.
Instead of tearing down an organization that fights for bitcoin, why not start your own? The BF does not officially represent bitcoin. That means anyone can start their own.
It also means you can argue for different positions on issues.
For example, some here believe that bitcoin should be totally anonymous and/or nontaxable. A new group could be formed to push for that agenda. I would love it if this happened! To argue this you will need to hire a lawyer/lobbyist and set up some meeting in Washington. It is going to be expensive, so your going to need money from your members. These members will be backing an idea with a zero sum. The lawyers are either going to convince lawmakers that bitcoin should be exempt from U.S. law, or they are going to get nothing and like it. That is why I support the BF. They are in the best position to get something done because they take smarter positions. If someone else has a better idea, I'm all ears.
Actually this is what makes the scam more perfect. You're covering it up by 'using' money for this, while you're actually taking more for yourself.
Oh I am? That's quite a surprise, but I'll take it. Where do I pick up my share of the scam money?
So let's break down your statement and associated premises.
1. There is a grand scam. But you can't explain it because it is so....?
2. There is a coverup. The proof of the coverup is the denial of the grand scam.
3. I'm involved and taking the money for myself. What money, I have no clue?
(badly written sentence).Let's say the CEO of TBF is covering it up...
Yeah, what a scam to take peoples membership money and use it to organize conferences, lobby regulators, provide a resource for business and the press, to provide a space to coordinate the volunteer efforts of dozens of people who actually do something. Wow such scam! Only a doggy based coin could save us now. 
Actually this is what makes the scam more perfect. You're covering it up by 'using' money for this, while you're actually taking more for yourself. Oh I am? That's quite a surprise, but I'll take it. Where do I pick up my share of the scam money?
So let's break down your statement and associated premises.
1. There is a grand scam. But you can't explain it because it is so....?
2. There is a coverup. The proof of the coverup is the denial of the grand scam.
3. I'm involved and taking the money for myself. What money, I have no clue?
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