Topic: Can a merit source re-start Ratimov merit threads. (Read 680 times)

What do I have to tell on this issue concerning Mr Ratimov?
Is just that someone such as him can't just stop what he's doing for no reason and I also saw when a user quoted one of his post and it seems like he did something to it showing that something went down with his post, like he deleted it or something.
So I'd say things ain't the same with him. Well I think without him on the mix the Forum will still do better and I feel he can be replaced and another thread can come up just like his old thread.

Yeah, sure. 



But honestly, there's also one truth that should not be ignored, which is that in terms of participating in campaigns, some managers do require some maximum number of earned merit in the last 120 days; as such, it's also earned merit that helps some members to be able to get selected in those campaigns.


 I think that some people don't usually appear on time to a thread; before they do, their comments might end up on page 5 (up) and it might be difficult to receive merit because some members that give merit only visit pages 1 and 2 because they believe that all good opinions are just on the first and second pages, while there could be other quality comments on page 5 too. Another thing I noticed too is that in terms of merit distribution, some are sentimental and do so out of favoritism. For example, I have seen where the first comment was more of a quality than the second comment, but the second comment got the merit.

Pray tell us why? You seem to know a lot from all indications so you can tell us why he left?. Anyways, I won't drag the matter out of context  because it seems the Op wants another merit source to continue Ratimov's good work and honestly, I quite agree.
 
 Just like others have helpfully supplied, there's many threads where merit sources are doling out merits to good posts and to be frank, they are doing a good job to make one forget that Ratimov has been MIA. So if I were to suggest to the Op, I'd say you make use of them and let Ratimov's thread be.

Show me 50 users with good English (or Dutch) posts) who need 10 to 50 Merit to reach their next rank, and I'll bump them up. But I don't have the time to read through users' post histories.

I don't think the problem is with missing @Ratimov as much as it is in the method of distributing merits. Ratimov way of sending merits to users who have a little left to the next rank means that you will easily get 10 to 50 merits once you reach 90% of merits requirements, which is different Of the majority who either review post/topic individually or send 1-5 merits.

This is a good point and something I will look at more in the future.
Your position is sensible, yet, many users could be discouraged posting, without seeing their post being noticed, which isn't good either.
For this balance, I propose my review for the users who might feel more rewarded by a merit, rather than the pure joy of sharing their toughs.

You are right; if a post deserves an award, it will be noticed. But lately, the topics where posts are sent for verification by merit sources resemble a school or university, where students submit their posts, like tests or even a thesis.

Aren't we on a forum just to discuss Bitcoin? We force merit sources to read undervalued posts while other users pass by them. If the post is good in itself, then everyone will see it. Why direct someone's eyes there?

It doesn't seem entirely sincere. The forum is designed for simple communication; however, we want every word to have a price.
Or else, if users do not rate posts, does that mean no one reads anything?

Sometimes you see a user whose merits come only from the source of merit. It turns out that it is only good for one person.
And still, we will be disingenuous when we say that people gathered on the forum only out of great love for crypto and not for the sake of ranks.

I'm not quite sure if that is necessary as there are many threads as similar as the one ratimov had. For example we have hugeblack, LoyceV, fillippone who have their own thread for merit distribution. Of course, it is encouraged to to merit, deserving posts and everyone has different way of meriting. Some prefer it as posted as a thread, some prefer it as manually reading every comment. Can't judge it really. Even before ratimov became a merit source, other sources distributed merits and after the incident of ratimov, merits are still being distributed. So I don't see any problem here. Having one thread deletes doesn't effect the forum much. Don't you think so? Again new ideas and thoughts are always encouraged.

You can read an explanation here: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?. Or, a sum-up here.


Yes. His last trick before exiting the stage.

It is true that such topics help encourage newbies. However, I would say that there are more important topics that need to be created than recreating these. Because already many have mentioned that many members have already taken this same objective and their topic is still running.
I think creating this topic (Ratimov's Forum Guides, Tutorials & Lists) is more important than the topics you mentioned, not only this topic but also all the tutorial lists of this topic are very important for beginners. I don't know about the internals why he blanked them out but I think they need to be re-created by anyone, maybe it's the op(rati) himself?
By the way did Ratimov change his name to Symmetrick?

It's going to sound absolutely hypocritical of me to say this, but I agree with you 100%.  But if I went that route and just merited good posts I just happened to stumble upon, I'd never get rid of my sMerit stash.  That's important to me (even though I'm failing miserably at the moment), because circulating merits keeps the whole thing going--and believe me when I tell you that creating the merit system was a genius move on Theymos's part, and one that I owe part of my sanity to.  

If you make people come to you for merits, you just have to be able to say no to shitposters when you see them.  I've had to reject so many requests for post reviews, it'd make your head spin.  I don't know if Ratimov needs a break or what, but he definitely kept those merits flowing.  If he decides to become much less active as a merit source as a result of all this drama, it might be a bit of a problem.

Brother, you speak the truth with that one.  But we're not living in an age where men are stoics--that time is long gone.  Not making knee-jerk reactions to attacks, insults, and whatever else is hard sometimes but if you can control that anger....well, some of us just can't do it all the time.  Gotta go for the prefrontal cortex every time except when you're in love.  That's my idiotic advice that none of y'all should listen to.

You always make good posts, so I dropped you 25 for that Foxpup praise post.

Those threads were very helpful to a lot of members on this forum as they quickly got a complete merit to rank up. Despite that, I was not a beneficiary of those threads, but I can tell how it helped most members rank up. But now that the thread is not functional any more due to reasons best known by the OP, there are yet other threads by other merit sources that you or other newbies can still apply for and get their complete merit to rank up. According to your question, OP, there are still other exiting threads that merit sources are using to award merit to members, so I don't feel any merit source will yet want to start a new thread. I am not saying they won't if they want to, but I know and I hope you understand that among the active merit sources we have on the forum, not all of them have a merit thread, but yet they still have their own pattern for distributing their merit.

Why could all this happen?
Even though I saw in your thread, you often help beginners and even seniors.
Sorry if I'm being presumptuous, I don't fully understand the rules of this forum and how it works.

It makes all sense if other merit sources could continue where @Symmetric stops this work, open their own or be sure to be regularly visiting that thread to help the growing users. I am one of the last sets that was helped by him and I am very happy about this, which is one of the reasons why agree with you on the suggestion as merits for some people who are even good posters are not easy to come by.

As for Symmetric, I hope all is well with him, the behaviour is so unusual to the point that he stopped his paying campaign. All I noticed was that there were many attacks on his person prior to the change of attitude. To be angry is normal, but as a man, we should know that emotion is a weakness and the ability to overcome annoyance goes a long way.

I wish him all the best and hope he will be back to his usual!

gave you 50 it will help you over the dry spell

I don't think it's a good option to speak up like this, not offend you OP but merit sources have thier own way of giving merits and also there are many good merit source still watching some other users and if they gonna like your post then they will give some merits.
Also like what other said above there are many threads who are still active for giving such merits all you need us to explore the forum and find those one.
Op we can't beg for merits so let us make a good post in order to receive one so Op nothing gonna happen about this thread sorry but no offend OP.

Yes, that's true the work you and some other merit sources are doing is a really tough work and I really appreciate the work that you and a few other merit sources are doing for the other members of the forum. There are many members who make good quality posts but still don't get enough merits and I believe that such members can get great help for the effort they are putting in their posts.

I must say that the your post review thing is still unique and has been quite helpful for many members. You have been very helpful with your post review history thread and I believe that only a few people can dedicate their time to review others posts and reward them merits for their contribution.

SHH.

I haven't "fallen out of love" with doing post history reviews, nor have I gone the route of Ratimov but as of late I've been up to my ass in alligators in real life and my motivation for doing them has dropped dramatically.  I'm hoping that 'ol mojo will come back soon, but right now I've got a queue of members who've PMed me and for who I still need to reviews.  I haven't paused my offer, but just know that any new requests are going to be in for a long-ish wait time.

Sometimes doing stuff like this is a pain in the ass.  I suspect that's why you don't see more merit sources doing giveaways and the like.

Ratimov is actually a generous giver as I know and has helped lots of people without undermining whether such person is from their locals or not, but the past hit on him made him remain muted for long now and has no strength to involved himself in any activities including merits distribution. But no need to panicked as time goes we often have some people who are always with enough merits to offload but sometimes they are too occupied to do that and all they need is to have spare time to go through everyone post to give out merits. I can see they have already listed lots of thread that talks about what you are requesting so there's no need to be extremely worried because I know whenever you have a quality post you will surely be merited even though you didn't report your post to anyone. I don't know if The Skeptical chemist is still doing post review but you can find out more details on his thread to know as well then you may submitted to him also.

I don't think that's the main reason why he entered ghost mode. Nobody's giving him pressure when it comes to the merit aspect, I have this feeling that there's something we really don't know that went down because how can he just lock a thread that has been on for years without any better reason... Even when he's online he's not like he was... Well let's see if there'll be any changes.