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April 10, 2019, 10:30:36 AM
#55
Not quite yet. Remember banks are more than just places for storing money, they give out loans to individuals and the government. Sure someone can always make a bank that uses only bitcoins but since people can store their bitcoins in their wallets anyway, there's less incentive in letting others handle one's bitcoin unless the interest is high enough.
That is why and it seems unlikely that cryptocurrency can replace old financial institutions, banks continue to innovate and banks continue to keep abreast of developments in the era that make them continue to be strong. Nothing can replace the currency in every country because it is part of the history of the country itself. Cryptocurrency does have advantages in this digital era, but replacing old financial institutions is not enough to only have high value.

Do you think there's a way for bitcoin to compete with some bank services? I use a credit card but I know the only reason the bank has anything to "lend" me was because someone stored his/her money for safe-keeping for close to no interest.

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April 10, 2019, 09:56:30 AM
#54
I hear it all the time. Bitcoin/crypto is alternative to fiat. And almost every token philosophy is based on this premise.

The question: can cryptocurrency beat legacy financial institutions to the point of replacing them?

... Thought as much... The much lauded JPMCoin was all noise and no substance. But can an accident happen to make legacy institutions catch up to the decentralized world?

it will be in the middle of the position there is no connection between Bitcoin and the normal currency so if Bitcoin was also developed it will not affect the development of banks but the value of Bitcoin is definitely more higher than any normal currency that's why it can be possible to beat anything in the future.
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April 10, 2019, 05:50:43 AM
#53
Bitcoin never could beat and destroy bank system, many investor always use bank for deposit and withdrawal their money in bitcoin, keep hold and save your bitcoin and always connected bank and bitcoin account.
I support bitcoin much and i know its real potential but we have to accept the fact that bitcoin will never beat the bank, maybe bitcoin has a better system but still investors will use banks because they needed it. There will be great combination of bitcoin and banks, the future is good for both market you just have to use banks and bitcoin properly. Banks will defeat their own competitor but they will never be defeated by cryptocurrency.
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April 10, 2019, 05:48:04 AM
#52
Sure, but you mentioned something very important there, which is centralization. The Banks and some of these services are very centralized, so it is prone to centralization flaws like "abuse of power" and/or "exploitation of power" .... So, they might start this service with zero or low fees to hook people and then suddenly start to charge higher fees, once they hooked these new customers or even not allowing people to send money to specific countries.  Roll Eyes

Bitcoin has no such problems, because the basic protocol has not changed, since it was released in 2009.  Wink  We are still moving millions of dollars and even a few dollars at a fraction of a cent, to anyone in the world.  Wink

The painful reality is that people don't give a damn about decentralization and care more about money and time
I can send any payment to my relatives all over the country in a matter of seconds and with zero atm withdraw fees. Can I do the same with bitcoin?
Two weeks ago I was stuck at the computer for one half hour cause coingate decided to have 6 confirmations when you pay via their system....

And moving money internationally...let's be honest, how many of us do send international payments?
Are you going to buy something from an unknown seller in China via BTC and forfeit the safety of refunding via a cc?
And even if we say BTC is better for payments..
How are going to replace the lending done via banks with bitcoin?

A currency can't replace a business, we should really stop with this BTC vs banks/paypal/visa and so on.
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April 10, 2019, 04:13:15 AM
#51
if in my opinion, at any time, bitcoin cannot defeat the bank because the bank is very strong and there are still many people in the world using the services of the bank. but if to compete with bitcoin banks indeed
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April 10, 2019, 02:48:09 AM
#50
Bitcoin never could beat and destroy bank system, many investor always use bank for deposit and withdrawal their money in bitcoin, keep hold and save your bitcoin and always connected bank and bitcoin account.
right, moreover the government's role in banks is very large, of course the government will prefer currency that can be controlled, on the grounds that a country's economic stability can be maintained


Good point, the government will continue supporting banks as they can control and facilitate the transactions, it simple as that, the government bodies will used banking system still and will stay that way, space for crypto might grow but not enough to beat the old system.

Adoptions will be there and potential are wide for Bitcoin, but reality needs to be accepted, that as long as government still patronizing the old financial system Bitcoin will be far from beating banking industry.
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April 10, 2019, 02:31:02 AM
#49
Running a bank is very expensive. You must have a big fancy building with nice furniture, you must pay employees lots of money to wear nice suits.

I would think in the future a physical location isn't necessary for a bank, the operations would be cheaper, and the fees lower.

Like blockbuster versus redbox. Blockbuster just couldn't compete.

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April 10, 2019, 02:06:45 AM
#48
Bitcoin never could beat and destroy bank system, many investor always use bank for deposit and withdrawal their money in bitcoin, keep hold and save your bitcoin and always connected bank and bitcoin account.
right, moreover the government's role in banks is very large, of course the government will prefer currency that can be controlled, on the grounds that a country's economic stability can be maintained

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April 10, 2019, 12:57:50 AM
#47
Large and small amounts of bitcoins can be sent at a fraction of the fees, than what is possible with Banks, so it is even cheaper to use Bitcoin transfers.  Wink
In terms of cross border payments that may be true, but locally I can send and receive money instantly at no cost with a service people from different banks can transact with each other.

It started out as a tipping service, but after the max amounts have been lifted significantly people can now send and receive thousands per transaction. It's centralized but incredibly convenient, which is something that crypto doesn't offer.

The best part is that it works every single day, so you're not tied to business days anymore. Banks are catching up fast, people shouldn't underestimate them or think that Bitcoin will wipe them out.

Sure, but you mentioned something very important there, which is centralization. The Banks and some of these services are very centralized, so it is prone to centralization flaws like "abuse of power" and/or "exploitation of power" .... So, they might start this service with zero or low fees to hook people and then suddenly start to charge higher fees, once they hooked these new customers or even not allowing people to send money to specific countries.  Roll Eyes

Bitcoin has no such problems, because the basic protocol has not changed, since it was released in 2009.  Wink  We are still moving millions of dollars and even a few dollars at a fraction of a cent, to anyone in the world.  Wink
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April 10, 2019, 12:40:48 AM
#46
I hear it all the time. Bitcoin/crypto is alternative to fiat. And almost every token philosophy is based on this premise.

The question: can cryptocurrency beat legacy financial institutions to the point of replacing them?

... Thought as much... The much lauded JPMCoin was all noise and no substance. But can an accident happen to make legacy institutions catch up to the decentralized world?

Do you think that the government would just let it happen?
Would they agree or accept crypto as a main currency even if they couldn't control it?
The answer is too obvious even if we want it so much it is really impossible to happen.
Crypto and Fiat would always exist .
- Indeed, fiat and the bank, all products from the government, the government provides this product to everyone with the aim of controlling and managing all activities in society easily, and society is working very well with these products, but if crypto and bitcoin appear and replace the role of fiat and the bank, everything will be very out of control, the government will not be able to manage, people will have the underground activities and evade the rules of the law. Therefore, the government will not allow the story as bitcoin to defeat banks or fiat, if bitcoin still tries to get into the real world, the government will take measures to eliminate it immediately.

Good valid point bro. Not all people earn bitcoin and even those that do earn btcs don't earn enough to keep the circulation flowing. Too farfetched to even consider it for now though there may one day be some innovation to bridge this deficit for btc. You don't expect everyone to convert their cash and fiat to crypto right? 😁 that's the only way banks can be beaten for now.
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April 10, 2019, 12:23:36 AM
#45
Bitcoin never could beat and destroy bank system, many investor always use bank for deposit and withdrawal their money in bitcoin, keep hold and save your bitcoin and always connected bank and bitcoin account.
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April 10, 2019, 12:12:26 AM
#44
banks are related to fiat currencies, while bitcoin without a bank, can still run. but the government will not be able to delete banks for now, it is precisely bitcoin that must be able to take the heart of the government
So what do you intend spending in cryptocurrency then if you feel cryptocurrency can still run without bank, let us logically think of this, starting from your first point, How do you get Bitcoin? You get bitcoin converting your Fiat currency to BTC, how do you then get Fiat, through bank. So, if there are no banks, how will you get the FIAT you want to use to purchase Bitcoin ?

Bitcoin will only displace Banks in some areas like anonymity, fast transaction and co and not completely displace the banking system entirely, we can only hope that bank will adopt the crypto system so they don’t get limited to just providing fiat alone.
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April 09, 2019, 11:18:42 PM
#43
I hear it all the time. Bitcoin/crypto is alternative to fiat. And almost every token philosophy is based on this premise.

The question: can cryptocurrency beat legacy financial institutions to the point of replacing them?

... Thought as much... The much lauded JPMCoin was all noise and no substance. But can an accident happen to make legacy institutions catch up to the decentralized world?

Do you think that the government would just let it happen?
Would they agree or accept crypto as a main currency even if they couldn't control it?
The answer is too obvious even if we want it so much it is really impossible to happen.
Crypto and Fiat would always exist .
- Indeed, fiat and the bank, all products from the government, the government provides this product to everyone with the aim of controlling and managing all activities in society easily, and society is working very well with these products, but if crypto and bitcoin appear and replace the role of fiat and the bank, everything will be very out of control, the government will not be able to manage, people will have the underground activities and evade the rules of the law. Therefore, the government will not allow the story as bitcoin to defeat banks or fiat, if bitcoin still tries to get into the real world, the government will take measures to eliminate it immediately.
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April 09, 2019, 05:23:32 PM
#42
I hear it all the time. Bitcoin/crypto is alternative to fiat. And almost every token philosophy is based on this premise.

The question: can cryptocurrency beat legacy financial institutions to the point of replacing them?

... Thought as much... The much lauded JPMCoin was all noise and no substance. But can an accident happen to make legacy institutions catch up to the decentralized world?

Do you think that the government would just let it happen?
Would they agree or accept crypto as a main currency even if they couldn't control it?
The answer is too obvious even if we want it so much it is really impossible to happen.
Crypto and Fiat would always exist .
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April 09, 2019, 04:55:34 PM
#41
In fact, the transition to a more decentralized society in all fields is already happening, despite the interests of those affected by this gradual process, who have no choice but to try to join this movement before disappearing completely, that is why I see the banks very interested in adhering to the issues related to the blockchain, giving greater facilities and freedoms to their users, so it is likely that the current banking system will stay with us a few more years before becoming obsolete and end up disappearing.
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April 09, 2019, 04:53:45 PM
#40
Not quite yet. Remember banks are more than just places for storing money, they give out loans to individuals and the government. Sure someone can always make a bank that uses only bitcoins but since people can store their bitcoins in their wallets anyway, there's less incentive in letting others handle one's bitcoin unless the interest is high enough.
Banks we're so much to give than of Bitcoin, in terms of services and the securities. Bitcoin still to be considered as a store value but banks have doing it well. Its a price that bitcoin could ever surpass, even for gold and other precious thing around us. And with that, there is no reason why or in any aspects that Bitcoin wanting or could beat banks.
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April 09, 2019, 04:39:21 PM
#39
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banks continue to innovate and banks continue to keep abreast of developments in the era that make them continue to be strong

Not to be strong but to not fall the profits lower than that.

The banking sector market has to deal with a new type of banks for about ten years, the neobanks. While they weren't taken seriously in the early days they took a serious percentage of the market now. Banks started losing million and to face competition they had no choice but to adapt. By doing what the neobanks do(most banks have their own neobank as a subsidiary) and by looking for new ways to innovate so that the remaining customers do not leave.
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April 09, 2019, 03:31:48 PM
#38
Not quite yet. Remember banks are more than just places for storing money, they give out loans to individuals and the government. Sure someone can always make a bank that uses only bitcoins but since people can store their bitcoins in their wallets anyway, there's less incentive in letting others handle one's bitcoin unless the interest is high enough.
That is why and it seems unlikely that cryptocurrency can replace old financial institutions, banks continue to innovate and banks continue to keep abreast of developments in the era that make them continue to be strong. Nothing can replace the currency in every country because it is part of the history of the country itself. Cryptocurrency does have advantages in this digital era, but replacing old financial institutions is not enough to only have high value.
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April 09, 2019, 12:07:26 PM
#37
Not quite yet. Remember banks are more than just places for storing money, they give out loans to individuals and the government. Sure someone can always make a bank that uses only bitcoins but since people can store their bitcoins in their wallets anyway, there's less incentive in letting others handle one's bitcoin unless the interest is high enough.
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April 09, 2019, 11:41:43 AM
#36
banks and bitcoin need each other. for example, how do you know how much your country's currency is? after knowing that. You can determine how much a coin is worth right ? without money issued by the bank you will not know how much the economic value of a coin is.
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