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legendary
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September 16, 2017, 03:48:43 AM
The only thing that will reduce Bitcoin volatility is time. The more money in the market means less people can influence it. For example even $6,000,000,000 invested now would only increase the price by less than 10%. Which means most companies/people cannot influence Bitcoin all that much anymore

As to me, it works exactly the other way around

More money in the market means higher prices, but higher prices necessarily mean less supply of coins (otherwise prices wouldn't rise). But if supply runs dry, any change in it will make big shifts in the price, which means increasing volatility. It seems to me that the only reliable way of stifling down Bitcoin volatility is to build real economy around Bitcoin, so that people could buy and sell things for Bitcoin directly (as opposed to selling and buying stuff with bitcoins which immediately get converted back to fiat)
hero member
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September 16, 2017, 02:07:06 AM
The only thing that will reduce Bitcoin volatility is time. The more money in the market means less people can influence it. For example even $6,000,000,000 invested now would only increase the price by less than 10%. Which means most companies/people cannot influence Bitcoin all that much anymore.
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September 09, 2017, 03:45:38 PM
It could if governments make laws; they also can control fiat to bitcoin chain.
hero member
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September 09, 2017, 12:03:51 PM
It can be controlled but the prepondence of people would emit buying and using it as soon as the volatility is removed from bitcoin.
People are benifitted by trading bitcoin and the profit is possible until volatility remains with it.
legendary
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Black Panther
September 09, 2017, 11:35:47 AM
Since bitcoin is a decentralized currency,it does not have any authority to control it or to ensure its value.So,its price increases or decreases in proportion to difference in demand for bitcoin.Bitcoin price is mainly driven by the community support.It exhibits its original value.In future,there would be huge increase in demand for bitcoin since it is getting legalized in most countries.But,still,the supply remains unchanged at 21 million coins.So,the volatility would only increase in future and it could not be controlled.

When more country legalize bitcoin , the value will increase as we know based on bitcoin graph. Every year bitcoin got increased up to 400% and mostly controlled by supply and demand from people around the world.
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September 09, 2017, 11:30:09 AM
I think the volatility is a result of not having enough knowledge about bitcoin in general. I don't mean the technical part.
Nobody knows how many people use bitcoin, how many coins are already lost, or how the posession of bitcoin is distributed amongst the users.
So when you buy bitcoins, you rather guess what value it has.
When people see the price move on a larger scale, many tend to follow the trend because they get the feeling their guess was wrong.
They have no numbers that help them to reconstruct why they paid a certain amount for a coin. They only have the current situation and they act on it.
So I do not think you can controle volatility with crypto currencies.
 

Volatility is the result of supply and demand changes.  I believe it is dictated by the buy and sell of holders and investors of Bitcoin.  As for that volatility cannot be controlled.  Another reason is the speculation of traders, with huge expectation regarding market, and strong hype towards Bitcoin, the surge of coming fund is expected and can be neutralized by FUDs and bad news.  depending on which one is stronger market moves that way.  Volatility movement or trend can be seen but cannot be controlled.
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September 09, 2017, 10:48:40 AM
Bitcoin's volatility can't be controlled since it is decentralized. But volatility will reduce with increase in Bitcoin holders. When user base will increase, there will be less chance of one bulk holder driving the price. This will certainly take some years to happen.
Exactly, one character of bitcoin is being volatility and it is hardly to stop. No one had a chance to stop that, because it is decentralized and nobody takes controlled with it. The only thing we can do is that, is to steak to it and make some adjustments as it's price will go up and down. Take some advantage when  price is high and hold bitcoins when it goes down for a chance that it will pump again.
hero member
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September 09, 2017, 10:23:00 AM
Since bitcoin is a decentralized currency,it does not have any authority to control it or to ensure its value.So,its price increases or decreases in proportion to difference in demand for bitcoin.Bitcoin price is mainly driven by the community support.It exhibits its original value.In future,there would be huge increase in demand for bitcoin since it is getting legalized in most countries.But,still,the supply remains unchanged at 21 million coins.So,the volatility would only increase in future and it could not be controlled.
legendary
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September 09, 2017, 09:56:06 AM
In my own opinion, I doubt if the volatility of bitcoin can be really kept under control. In a decentralised setting where is no control by the government, it is very difficult to control the market value of bitcoin. I believe with time when those company realised what they are loosing by not accepting bitcoin, it is then some of them will start accepting it.      
It will be felt the same way how some user's now regret that they didn't believe at btc at first. Bitcoin volatility can't be controlled. Its volatility and applicable on increasing makes btc moee interesting.
Bitcoin price volatility can actually be utilized for action to increase the investment advantage that we have. For an investor company I think the bitcoin volatility can be very profitable. But for a company that sells goods I think it's going to be very hard to accept because we know that they make very little profit, so bitcoin usage can be risky and profitable.
hero member
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September 09, 2017, 09:48:11 AM
I think the volatility is a result of not having enough knowledge about bitcoin in general. I don't mean the technical part.
Nobody knows how many people use bitcoin, how many coins are already lost, or how the posession of bitcoin is distributed amongst the users.
So when you buy bitcoins, you rather guess what value it has.
When people see the price move on a larger scale, many tend to follow the trend because they get the feeling their guess was wrong.
They have no numbers that help them to reconstruct why they paid a certain amount for a coin. They only have the current situation and they act on it.
So I do not think you can controle volatility with crypto currencies.
 
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September 09, 2017, 09:34:20 AM
In my own opinion, I doubt if the volatility of bitcoin can be really kept under control. In a decentralised setting where is no control by the government, it is very difficult to control the market value of bitcoin. I believe with time when those company realised what they are loosing by not accepting bitcoin, it is then some of them will start accepting it.      
It will be felt the same way how some user's now regret that they didn't believe at btc at first. Bitcoin volatility can't be controlled. Its volatility and applicable on increasing makes btc moee interesting.
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September 09, 2017, 09:18:15 AM
In my own opinion, I doubt if the volatility of bitcoin can be really kept under control. In a decentralised setting where is no control by the government, it is very difficult to control the market value of bitcoin. I believe with time when those company realised what they are loosing by not accepting bitcoin, it is then some of them will start accepting it.      
sr. member
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September 09, 2017, 09:10:51 AM
Bitcoin's volatility can't be controlled since it is decentralized. But volatility will reduce with increase in Bitcoin holders. When user base will increase, there will be less chance of one bulk holder driving the price. This will certainly take some years to happen.
full member
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September 09, 2017, 09:04:29 AM
definitely yes, the market is precisely the trade in the bitcoin percentage of the total mass is not so great.
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September 09, 2017, 08:55:28 AM
I certainly can say that it cannot be controlled unless there is a law made to limit the volatility. And another is that bitcoin has to be centralized in order for this to happen because there are many factors that need to be controlled in order to make bitcoin stable.
sr. member
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August 14, 2017, 04:38:07 PM
I don't think there is any way to control the volatility of Bitcoin as it is a free market of trading without any government control, but this is also one of the reason why bitcoin is attractive to many investors, as there is no limits on how high the values of bitcoin could rise, there is always a potential to get a huge profit from trading bitcoins.
we all can see the users of the bitcoin is increasing with the time so how can we say bitcoin volatility can go down when it is increasing its circle very rapidly, and the price of the bitcoin is getting bigger as the time passes and the supply and the demand of the bitcoin in the market is very high now the people who are interested in bitcoin are ready to pay the high market price just to own bitcoin  so I think the volatility of the bitcoin cannot be controlled that easily .
Volatility of digital currencies whether they are bitcoins or any other coins is tough to control. The volatile nature is main thing that attracts people towards digital coins. Bitcoins, no doubt are increasing in demand and gaining too much popularity worldwide. All this will directly increase its value.
Very difficult but not meaningful can't control the price the volatility on market. Example Bitcoin Cash, why an altcoin most trader say is shitcoin can recovery after flash crash in first time and rising up to high price ~0.5 BTC/BCC on Bittrex exchange. Just by some wall, order trap on market create by whales, most trader change their think and buying Bitcoin Cash for earning profit.
It is very obvious that bitcoin cash is being manipulated, when you have some miners and some exchanges colluded then they can make the price of any coin move as they want, especially a market like bitcoin cash that is nothing but speculation at the moment since there is nothing else you can do with it except to buy it and to dump it.
legendary
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August 10, 2017, 03:07:12 AM
Bitcoin's volatility will never be controlled, just look at other commodities like gold and see the big swings that happen there. Even fiat currencies often have large swings in their valuation.

"Big swings" is relative. Neither gold, silver, or other mainstream commodities, and especially not fiat, see volatility on the order that crypto has experienced in its short lifetime. Gold on rare occasions can swing 10% in a day, and that's a big move. Crypto routinely swings 20% or more in a day. Fiat is generally more stable than gold, and a few percent in a single day is a dramatic move. (Fiat during hyperinflation is another matter, it's not common and not normal, and is generally a one-way track.)

You forget to mention another commodity

Which perfectly cuts it as a mainstream one and which has volatility quite on par with that of Bitcoin. I obviously refer to crude oil which you kinda forget to mention. I guess it is as mainstream as mainstream itself is concerned, and it is not uncommon to see huge swings in the price of this commodity within a couple of days (up to a few dozen percentages). And it is not just about short-term volatility either. Long-term volatility of crude oil is also quite remarkable. But you certainly know that even better than myself

Yes, a perfectly fine addition to the list of mainstream commodities, but I wouldn't go so far as to say oil has volatility like bitcoin. How often does oil trade on swings as large as bitcoin in as short a time? Oil is comparative to gold and silver, but not bitcoin. In addition to oil, gold and silver have the ability to trade "a few dozen" percent in a few days time, but not nearly as frequently as bitcoin. Bitcoin's volatility I would put a whole magnitude higher, both in terms of the percentage swings, the time frame those swings occur (which are shorter), and especially in the frequency with which those swings occur in those time frames

I tend to disagree with this view

It could be claimed that Bitcoin is more volatile than oil overall, but certainly not at the scale of "a whole magnitude". We have seen Bitcoin crash like 6 times within a little over a year, from above 1,100 dollars down to below 200 dollars per coin in 2014-early 2015. But we have seen oil going absolutely the same path and basically within the same time span. Oil went down from over 120 dollars to 25 dollars per barrel in 2014. And this was not a one-off event by any means. In 2008 it fell from over 140 dollars to below 40 dollars per barrel, and before that we had seen huge price swings as well. How is Bitcoin's volatility time span shorter than that of crude oil if we consider the periods of maximum price swings? Regarding more short term swings, then again it is nowhere near being orders of magnitude difference (or just one magnitude). Right now oil seems to be more stable than Bitcoin, but let's not forget its wild swings just a year ago when its price jumped like mad pretty much Bitcoin style
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August 09, 2017, 06:01:05 PM
Bitcoin's volatility will never be controlled, just look at other commodities like gold and see the big swings that happen there. Even fiat currencies often have large swings in their valuation.

"Big swings" is relative. Neither gold, silver, or other mainstream commodities, and especially not fiat, see volatility on the order that crypto has experienced in its short lifetime. Gold on rare occasions can swing 10% in a day, and that's a big move. Crypto routinely swings 20% or more in a day. Fiat is generally more stable than gold, and a few percent in a single day is a dramatic move. (Fiat during hyperinflation is another matter, it's not common and not normal, and is generally a one-way track.)

You forget to mention another commodity

Which perfectly cuts it as a mainstream one and which has volatility quite on par with that of Bitcoin. I obviously refer to crude oil which you kinda forget to mention. I guess it is as mainstream as mainstream itself is concerned, and it is not uncommon to see huge swings in the price of this commodity within a couple of days (up to a few dozen percentages). And it is not just about short-term volatility either. Long-term volatility of crude oil is also quite remarkable. But you certainly know that even better than myself

Yes, a perfectly fine addition to the list of mainstream commodities, but I wouldn't go so far as to say oil has volatility like bitcoin. How often does oil trade on swings as large as bitcoin in as short a time? Oil is comparative to gold and silver, but not bitcoin. In addition to oil, gold and silver have the ability to trade "a few dozen" percent in a few days time, but not nearly as frequently as bitcoin. Bitcoin's volatility I would put a whole magnitude higher, both in terms of the percentage swings, the time frame those swings occur (which are shorter), and especially in the frequency with which those swings occur in those time frames.
legendary
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August 08, 2017, 03:39:06 PM
Bitcoin's volatility will never be controlled, just look at other commodities like gold and see the big swings that happen there. Even fiat currencies often have large swings in their valuation.

"Big swings" is relative. Neither gold, silver, or other mainstream commodities, and especially not fiat, see volatility on the order that crypto has experienced in its short lifetime. Gold on rare occasions can swing 10% in a day, and that's a big move. Crypto routinely swings 20% or more in a day. Fiat is generally more stable than gold, and a few percent in a single day is a dramatic move. (Fiat during hyperinflation is another matter, it's not common and not normal, and is generally a one-way track.)

You forget to mention another commodity

Which perfectly cuts it as a mainstream one and which has volatility quite on par with that of Bitcoin. I obviously refer to crude oil which you kinda forget to mention. I guess it is as mainstream as mainstream itself is concerned, and it is not uncommon to see huge swings in the price of this commodity within a couple of days (up to a few dozen percentages). And it is not just about short-term volatility either. Long-term volatility of crude oil is also quite remarkable. But you certainly know that even better than myself
hero member
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August 08, 2017, 03:10:50 PM
I don't think there is any way to control the volatility of Bitcoin as it is a free market of trading without any government control, but this is also one of the reason why bitcoin is attractive to many investors, as there is no limits on how high the values of bitcoin could rise, there is always a potential to get a huge profit from trading bitcoins.
we all can see the users of the bitcoin is increasing with the time so how can we say bitcoin volatility can go down when it is increasing its circle very rapidly, and the price of the bitcoin is getting bigger as the time passes and the supply and the demand of the bitcoin in the market is very high now the people who are interested in bitcoin are ready to pay the high market price just to own bitcoin  so I think the volatility of the bitcoin cannot be controlled that easily .
Volatility of digital currencies whether they are bitcoins or any other coins is tough to control. The volatile nature is main thing that attracts people towards digital coins. Bitcoins, no doubt are increasing in demand and gaining too much popularity worldwide. All this will directly increase its value.
Very difficult but not meaningful can't control the price the volatility on market. Example Bitcoin Cash, why an altcoin most trader say is shitcoin can recovery after flash crash in first time and rising up to high price ~0.5 BTC/BCC on Bittrex exchange. Just by some wall, order trap on market create by whales, most trader change their think and buying Bitcoin Cash for earning profit.
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