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Quote from: spadormie on April 19, 2019, 11:50:49 AM

I don't think that being an aitheist or a believer connected in gambling. Yes, sometimes I tend to pray to God for me to win my gambles. But even so, I still don't win some games. You wanna know why? Because it is not connected to your religion.

I am sure God keeps an eye on all the gamblers and helps them win money. It is on top of his to-do list slightly below thoughts and prayers for victims of natural disasters. If you prayed and God didn't help you with your bets it means that some other gamblers were louder in their prayers and God simply favoured them over you.

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Quote from: spadormie on April 19, 2019, 11:50:49 AM

I don't think that being an aitheist or a believer connected in gambling. Yes, sometimes I tend to pray to God for me to win my gambles. But even so, I still don't win some games. You wanna know why? Because it is not connected to your religion.

Those who are more attached to the religion will surely pray from the God that they win in gambling. If you have no attachment to religion then ofcourse you will not think in this way. In few religions Gambling is prohibited, so those people should avoid gambling in the first place.

I think that you could connect gambling with your believes in a way if you want. See there is something called luck. In statistics, we call it randomness and from a religion point of view, it is called the assistance of God. See if you do not believe in luck or randomness, the only option left to you is the one which links your gambling activities with the religion. In addition, you could read books over the topic to explore the right answers.

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Quote from: davinchi on April 26, 2019, 11:10:00 AM

One thing about the power of the mind is that whatever you set your mind heart is what goes with you, if a gambler believes in his heart that a pen will make him win, then it will happen, but naturally, God doesn’t have hand in such things, it is just a superstition, it is whatever they believe in their heart gets attracted to them.

This what is called law of attraction, if the mindset is strong about a winning and the believe is their 100% that such gambler will be successful, then he will be, if he doubts his winning, it is obvious that he might not win, but gambling is just strictly a game of luck and luck comes to us when we believe it in our heart.

Law of attraction does not work with gambling, if it does am sure everyone would be a winner because everyone entered gambling with a positive mindset.

I remember few years ago after reading a book titled the power of positive thinking by Normal Vincent peale, it was really strong in my heart that I thought I could apply it to gambling, I saw myself winning all my games. But, I was really disappointed after playing because, I was very confident that I had all the right mindset to winning the game. Skills are the best and only strategy for winning in gambling.

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Quote from: tsaroz on April 22, 2019, 12:05:00 PM

It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator.
The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.

It will depend on the individual. One could believe in God especially if there are things that happen like a miracle or an unexpected things that favored to that individual. This might change their beliefs that there were really a superhuman being that created the universe. A simple question were still difficult to answer until now and that is " How Universe Exist, What is the reason why it exist, who made the universe and etc. Science could still not prove this and put their studies into theory and nothing else.

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Quote from: MFahad on April 25, 2019, 10:50:20 PM

In my view, we should not involve God in gambling, if we do read religious then we will see God not allow to play gambling, it is sin in many religious.
But an atheist he doesn't care about these matter in life even it is gambling or not.
And superstitious people they are always confused to do everything and in the end they will say if we don't do it then may be we will win. However in short, i will not rely in all these type of matters, and i suggest play gambling for yourself, and not try to involve them.

Yes, that will be good advice for people who are seeing gambling from the religion side, and they should not involve in the gambling games.
I don't think that an atheist could turn to theist and superstitious because sometimes an atheist makes a decision using knowledge.
But we know that everything could happen and could change person to become someone else and only time will tell.

Yes, the very best advice for religious people would be for them, to stay off gambling completely. The game is not meant for religious people and I don’t even think there is any religion that supports gambling. If any atheist decides to become theist or becomes superstitious that his personality and it has nothing to do with the game or religion.

I’ve been gambling for quit a long time, I’ve won little and I’ve lost even more and if there is anyone whom the game could change, am sure it would have been me but I chose to remain who I am.

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Quote from: rijaljun on April 26, 2019, 09:44:15 AM

No way! It's not possible anyway. Atheist is about disbelieving god existence, it's not about disbelieving a luck. Lucks and hopes are still around their lives. That means without god, they can still having luck and hoping the best for their life.

Why do you think it’s not possible ? This is gambling, where impossibility can become possible. At difficult situations, there are so many atheists that can easily admit the supremacy of God. It’s possible they do it out of anxiety buy yes they do.

I know they always trust their luck to win or believe most of their winnings are based on skill but, when the game is ongoing, they will know that an extra power is needed to win. I have experience with a lot of atheist both in gambling world and outside and, I know that it is possible because I have seen instances where they call on God for help in times of needs.

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Quote from: davinchi on April 26, 2019, 11:10:00 AM

Quote from: Duzter on April 25, 2019, 10:39:17 AM

Gambling is completely on luck and strategy relative to the game. Gambling doesn't have anything to do with the atheist, some people used to relate the superstition with gambling when they make a winning. This way superstitious beliefs still prevail with gambling and there isn't anything with the atheist.

One thing about the power of the mind is that whatever you set your mind heart is what goes with you, if a gambler believes in his heart that a pen will make him win, then it will happen, but naturally, God doesn’t have hand in such things, it is just a superstition, it is whatever they believe in their heart gets attracted to them.

This what is called law of attraction, if the mindset is strong about a winning and the believe is their 100% that such gambler will be successful, then he will be, if he doubts his winning, it is obvious that he might not win, but gambling is just strictly a game of luck and luck comes to us when we believe it in our heart.

There are really things which would really be possible to have that kind of positive thinking will really affect things on what he's doing but this is excluding gambling.God has really nothing to do with gambling yet all chances are random on each person and theres no thing that can affect to raise up chances anytime.So,its an impossible thing and making beliefs make a U-turn seems not too easy because losing in gambling
wont really be that enough for them to be come theist and superstitious because they do lose.

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Quote from: Duzter on April 25, 2019, 10:39:17 AM

Gambling is completely on luck and strategy relative to the game. Gambling doesn't have anything to do with the atheist, some people used to relate the superstition with gambling when they make a winning. This way superstitious beliefs still prevail with gambling and there isn't anything with the atheist.

One thing about the power of the mind is that whatever you set your mind heart is what goes with you, if a gambler believes in his heart that a pen will make him win, then it will happen, but naturally, God doesn’t have hand in such things, it is just a superstition, it is whatever they believe in their heart gets attracted to them.

This what is called law of attraction, if the mindset is strong about a winning and the believe is their 100% that such gambler will be successful, then he will be, if he doubts his winning, it is obvious that he might not win, but gambling is just strictly a game of luck and luck comes to us when we believe it in our heart.

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No way! It's not possible anyway. Atheist is about disbelieving god existence, it's not about disbelieving a luck. Lucks and hopes are still around their lives. That means without god, they can still having luck and hoping the best for their life.

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Quote from: MFahad on April 25, 2019, 10:50:20 PM

Quote from: tsaroz on April 22, 2019, 12:05:00 PM

It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator.
The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.

In my view, we should not involve God in gambling, if we do read religious then we will see God not allow to play gambling, it is sin in many religious.
But an atheist he doesn't care about these matter in life even it is gambling or not.
And superstitious people they are always confused to do everything and in the end they will say if we don't do it then may be we will win. However in short, i will not rely in all these type of matters, and i suggest play gambling for yourself, and not try to involve them.

I am 100% agree that God and religion should not be blamed for any loss in gambling. God is the one who is in control of everything.
The superstitious beliefs are too old and i really shock that people living the current era still belief on things happenings on the basis of superstitious.

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Quote from: MFahad on April 25, 2019, 10:50:20 PM

Quote from: tsaroz on April 22, 2019, 12:05:00 PM

It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator.
The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.

In my view, we should not involve God in gambling, if we do read religious then we will see God not allow to play gambling, it is sin in many religious.
But an atheist he doesn't care about these matter in life even it is gambling or not.
And superstitious people they are always confused to do everything and in the end they will say if we don't do it then may be we will win. However in short, i will not rely in all these type of matters, and i suggest play gambling for yourself, and not try to involve them.

Yes, that will be good advice for people who are seeing gambling from the religion side, and they should not involve in the gambling games.
I don't think that an atheist could turn to theist and superstitious because sometimes an atheist makes a decision using knowledge.
But we know that everything could happen and could change person to become someone else and only time will tell.

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Quote from: tsaroz on April 22, 2019, 12:05:00 PM

It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator.
The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.

In my view, we should not involve God in gambling, if we do read religious then we will see God not allow to play gambling, it is sin in many religious.
But an atheist he doesn't care about these matter in life even it is gambling or not.
And superstitious people they are always confused to do everything and in the end they will say if we don't do it then may be we will win. However in short, i will not rely in all these type of matters, and i suggest play gambling for yourself, and not try to involve them.

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Quote from: Pearls Before Swine on April 22, 2019, 10:35:10 AM

Quote from: iamsheikhadil on April 07, 2019, 06:07:29 AM

I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover.

Highly irrational, but every gambler I have ever known has some kind of superstitious belief like these and it has even become a cliche in movies that gamblers are a superstitious lot. But it's true.

It isn't uncommon to reach out to a higher power in times of crisis, even if you had no previous spiritual inclinations. Seems to be part of human nature, embedded in our genes. But no I myself am not religious or even very spiritual and I don't have mystical or magical beliefs. Not even at the craps table.

I admit i also have my superstitious beliefs when i gamble.And i think this tradition has started already even in the time of our ancestors.But i don't really believe that whenever you lose in gambling,God is there to make you win.Gambling is not accepted in His will and so gamblers are not even tolerated by God.

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Quote from: Duzter on April 25, 2019, 10:39:17 AM

Gambling is completely on luck and strategy relative to the game. Gambling doesn't have anything to do with the atheist, some people used to relate the superstition with gambling when they make a winning. This way superstitious beliefs still prevail with gambling and there isn't anything with the atheist.

Completely right, the supertitious belief was still there in gambler. Just like not giving tip while you are on a gamble because that will lead you from serious losses, that superstitious belief still alive and one of my relative telling me that way. Meanwhile, we can't conclude that superstitious belief will effectively since we are now in modern civilization.

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Gambling is completely on luck and strategy relative to the game. Gambling doesn't have anything to do with the atheist, some people used to relate the superstition with gambling when they make a winning. This way superstitious beliefs still prevail with gambling and there isn't anything with the atheist.

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Quote from: futuret on April 21, 2019, 11:49:44 PM

Quote from: jademaxsuy on April 21, 2019, 11:25:16 AM

LOL, probably they can call their stupid god like casting bad words when gets loss or it could be also calling the real god when things gets good or bad. It will just depend on the scenario.

But, I do not really believe atheist has no God at all. They just deny the religion but no one could not feel a high beings with super powers that created the world and the human beings on this earth.

It’s quite natural for humans to believe in their god either they are happy or sad. But yes you are right, when we have bad times, we return ourselves to God because we know we are helpless and their materialistic world isn’t working for me. But if someone thinks gambling can turn him to God, well that is good, but unluckily it doesn’t happen mostly. Exceptional cases exists but this isn’t normal practice.

Which god are you referring to though? There are probably over a thousands gods out there and if any of those even exist, i doubt they'd give a damn about petty humans gambling lol. I know quite a few atheists and most of them are pretty religious before realizing a few things so i doubt that gambling would provide enough reason for them to go back.

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It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator.
The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on April 07, 2019, 06:07:29 AM

I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover.

Highly irrational, but every gambler I have ever known has some kind of superstitious belief like these and it has even become a cliche in movies that gamblers are a superstitious lot. But it's true.

It isn't uncommon to reach out to a higher power in times of crisis, even if you had no previous spiritual inclinations. Seems to be part of human nature, embedded in our genes. But no I myself am not religious or even very spiritual and I don't have mystical or magical beliefs. Not even at the craps table.

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Quote from: rodel caling on April 20, 2019, 02:24:32 AM

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I Think you have the best opinion and it summarizes it all up. It’s very good to gamble and have all the fun from the game, But it is all shade of wrong to commit big money into gambling with the intention of getting it back and then start calling God for intervention in it, which we know that it is a game of luck and not a game of GOD.

God has already created the game for fun but it is man that made is difficult by making it full of rush because of the introduction of huge money to play, greed is what makes us use big money to play something that we term as fun game.

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People come up with all kind of bullshit excuses for their losing sprees lol

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