Can gambling turn an atheist to theist and superstitious? - page 6.

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Quote from: kurian on April 17, 2019, 02:39:21 PM

I come from strong religious background so, I believe in God even before I started gambling. I don't think it has any influence in my gambling life anyway. Generally, most of the people shows an inclination to God when they have a breakdown. I guess this is the reason why you asked this question. So, its not about gambling its all about fear and stress as we encounter a problem.

Religious aspects have never been connected to gambling and as said people would only call for God when they do lose out but not literally for those people who are atheist will have always the chance to called out
God on that time.Its possible but i doubt that wont really be enough to consider to say that turning atheist into God-fearing creature.

That's true, and it's necessary that we should remain realistic in gambling as we are facing real risk.
A risk that could make us loss more than we can afford to lose, and we cannot call God on that to help us since it's us alone that are making decision in gambling. God is everywhere, for us who believe in God we are thankful if we win, but should not blame God if we loss since losing is possible.

For me,gambling is a total opposite from the will of God so if we lose or win from gambling,God has nothing to do with it.We are responsible for the things we do as much as we are responsible too for whatever circumstances it bring.I think gambling is not enough to make an atheist call for God.

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I guess I can see how someone might see a miracle in the growth of a plant or the wonder of space. But I am completely baffled at how one might reconcile religion and math. Mathematics is pure logic and has no room for belief at all. It is completely predictable and provably knowable. So if you think God is going to make one plus one equal three, then you don't know God or math.

OP came to that point that he's desperate to ask God to give him luck.

And by chance, he was able to get what he wanted.

I think it was chance also. Heck, I don't believe in a God and yet she keeps rewarding my irreverence with money.
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Yes, it's also a chance but a coincidence that he asked help from above and he got it.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 17, 2019, 12:01:53 PM

I don't see any solid logic behind this argument. I am a religious person (Hindu), but I have a number of atheist friends. I would say that in case an atheist wins a big jackpot, then he is more likely to thank his skills than attributing it to the god. And one more thing... being a theist doesn't mean that one needs to be superstitious. And you can find superstitious people among the atheists as well.

You are talking about a case when they win, atheist win always attribute winnings to skills, and luck but they can be superstitious in a tensed situation especially in gambling, I think this is the whole context of this argument.

I also have a number of them as friends and I have witnesses how they can act contrary to their beliefs in gambling and I totally understand that this is due to tension not necessarily that they do not know what the belief is all about. Gambling is just a game that can make you go against your own belief during playing, but it’s still just the game.

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Quote from: kurian on April 17, 2019, 02:39:21 PM

I come from strong religious background so, I believe in God even before I started gambling. I don't think it has any influence in my gambling life anyway. Generally, most of the people shows an inclination to God when they have a breakdown. I guess this is the reason why you asked this question. So, its not about gambling its all about fear and stress as we encounter a problem.

Religious aspects have never been connected to gambling and as said people would only call for God when they do lose out but not literally for those people who are atheist will have always the chance to called out
God on that time.Its possible but i doubt that wont really be enough to consider to say that turning atheist into God-fearing creature.

That's true, and it's necessary that we should remain realistic in gambling as we are facing real risk.
A risk that could make us loss more than we can afford to lose, and we cannot call God on that to help us since it's us alone that are making decision in gambling. God is everywhere, for us who believe in God we are thankful if we win, but should not blame God if we loss since losing is possible.

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Quote from: boyptc on April 15, 2019, 03:30:13 PM

Quote from: RodeoX on April 15, 2019, 02:46:24 PM

I guess I can see how someone might see a miracle in the growth of a plant or the wonder of space. But I am completely baffled at how one might reconcile religion and math. Mathematics is pure logic and has no room for belief at all. It is completely predictable and provably knowable. So if you think God is going to make one plus one equal three, then you don't know God or math.

OP came to that point that he's desperate to ask God to give him luck.

And by chance, he was able to get what he wanted.

I think it was chance also. Heck, I don't believe in a God and yet she keeps rewarding my irreverence with money.
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Quote from: kurian on April 17, 2019, 02:39:21 PM

I come from strong religious background so, I believe in God even before I started gambling. I don't think it has any influence in my gambling life anyway. Generally, most of the people shows an inclination to God when they have a breakdown. I guess this is the reason why you asked this question. So, its not about gambling its all about fear and stress as we encounter a problem.

Religious aspects have never been connected to gambling and as said people would only call for God when they do lose out but not literally for those people who are atheist will have always the chance to called out
God on that time.Its possible but i doubt that wont really be enough to consider to say that turning atheist into God-fearing creature.

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I come from strong religious background so, I believe in God even before I started gambling. I don't think it has any influence in my gambling life anyway. Generally, most of the people shows an inclination to God when they have a breakdown. I guess this is the reason why you asked this question. So, its not about gambling its all about fear and stress as we encounter a problem.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 17, 2019, 12:01:53 PM

I don't see any solid logic behind this argument. I am a religious person (Hindu), but I have a number of atheist friends. I would say that in case an atheist wins a big jackpot, then he is more likely to thank his skills than attributing it to the god. And one more thing... being a theist doesn't mean that one needs to be superstitious. And you can find superstitious people among the atheists as well.

No need to point out any religion bro. it is not good for healthy community. I hope OP might have create this thread at political and society child board. Actually all have luck factor is there in atheist point of view also.

Many business are start with the belief of own and luck factor also needs to do there. How come we can say atheist does not have that luck factor.

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I don't see any solid logic behind this argument. I am a religious person (Hindu), but I have a number of atheist friends. I would say that in case an atheist wins a big jackpot, then he is more likely to thank his skills than attributing it to the god. And one more thing... being a theist doesn't mean that one needs to be superstitious. And you can find superstitious people among the atheists as well.

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God will not related if you have big lose or big win. I tried to pray to god I hope I win this today but I realize better to not pray for god if we are playing gambling Im not saying gambling is bad but for me is not good if we are praying to win don't pray if you wish to win to gambling because maybe god will not going to accept your prayer.

Just heard someone pray for gambling Grin

. But actually it is ok because people can pray and do something and maybe hope for luck is good to do too. Since gambling is type of game that need luck to win it.

A lot of people or player who pray for them to win when they play gambling which is wrong because god will not related of we are doing and they will not blessed us once we pray to win. Maybe try your best to win instead of praying to win in gambling.

there is nothing wrong on believing . for those who believe on god like me , we will always pray at all times even if we dont play gambling so that we can be safe from any harm . i can say to my self that it work for me because im still blessed . there was alot of good things that happen to me lately .however when it comes to gambling id say that im still a bad luck because i do rarely win no matter what prayers i do .

It is right, but our point here is when pray at gambling. Grin

Because i don't know how it is in other religion, but in my religion, gambling is a sin. And pray for gambling is actually something that people can't do.

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I don't want to discuss the religious aspect but gambling tends to make people superstitious. This is a very common thing that people will do once they hit a winning streak and they try to repeat the results. I've read a lot of professional athletes do the same thing such as having a lucky necklace or lucky shirt.

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I can't deny that I also pray to win, but I believe winning in gambling is only based on chances and luck.
There's no certain things that would make us stable in winning if we gambling in a luck based games, and even if we are too lucky, eventually
we will run out of luck. Sometimes this kind of belief will just makes us frustrated as losing is inevitable in gambling, so it's better to be realistic all the time.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 16, 2019, 07:38:05 AM

So atheist gambler just need to pray and beg to win and then he will become a Christian?😂

No i dont think they will,unless the person involved is not totalan atheist instead he was only feeling atheist for being cool and followers but in hies heart still believing the superstition things

Such thing won't happen as stated, gambling is all about luck. Apart from this some get into superstitious beliefs, but those superstitious beliefs doesn't give any winning. All that happens is just the coincidence and people relate it the superstition. This way atheist isn't gonna get changed to theist for this simple things. Being an atheist has got lot of information behind it.

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I think it can make any of us pray but it can't change a person's belief. God doesn't even support gambling so no matter how hard we pray I don't think that God could grant what we want. We could play through luck and see what goes around but you could hear gamblers pray unintentionally believing that God could make them win the game.

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God will not related if you have big lose or big win. I tried to pray to god I hope I win this today but I realize better to not pray for god if we are playing gambling Im not saying gambling is bad but for me is not good if we are praying to win don't pray if you wish to win to gambling because maybe god will not going to accept your prayer.

Just heard someone pray for gambling Grin

. But actually it is ok because people can pray and do something and maybe hope for luck is good to do too. Since gambling is type of game that need luck to win it.

A lot of people or player who pray for them to win when they play gambling which is wrong because god will not related of we are doing and they will not blessed us once we pray to win. Maybe try your best to win instead of praying to win in gambling.

there is nothing wrong on believing . for those who believe on god like me , we will always pray at all times even if we dont play gambling so that we can be safe from any harm . i can say to my self that it work for me because im still blessed . there was alot of good things that happen to me lately .however when it comes to gambling id say that im still a bad luck because i do rarely win no matter what prayers i do .

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Quote from: perla on April 15, 2019, 10:09:44 PM

Quote from: bitcoin31 on April 15, 2019, 04:03:54 PM

God will not related if you have big lose or big win. I tried to pray to god I hope I win this today but I realize better to not pray for god if we are playing gambling Im not saying gambling is bad but for me is not good if we are praying to win don't pray if you wish to win to gambling because maybe god will not going to accept your prayer.

Just heard someone pray for gambling Grin

. But actually it is ok because people can pray and do something and maybe hope for luck is good to do too. Since gambling is type of game that need luck to win it.

A lot of people or player who pray for them to win when they play gambling which is wrong because god will not related of we are doing and they will not blessed us once we pray to win. Maybe try your best to win instead of praying to win in gambling.

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So atheist gambler just need to pray and beg to win and then he will become a Christian?😂

No i dont think they will,unless the person involved is not totalan atheist instead he was only feeling atheist for being cool and followers but in hies heart still believing the superstition things

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on April 07, 2019, 07:07:29 AM

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has.

No i dont believe god will help you win, but there was sometimes i prayed to win my bet but those are the desperate times, i don't usually pray for my bet to win, it happened only because i lost a big sum at that time and hoping to get it back.

No changes that will happen, as there's no hope if the results will turned into a losing one, whatever you desire if fate will never allow you, it won't change
the outcome, praying or hoping that whoever god you believe in will grant your request is just an illusion inside your mind.

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on April 07, 2019, 07:07:29 AM

We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has.

If you relate gambling with religious point of view, then you know atheist has no religion and he don't pray to God, and about superstitious, it is just like judgement, you can called we judge and guess which bet will win.
Actually you asked a deeply question, but as long as i think, gambling is a game, if you compare gambling with other games then you will never ask it.

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Quote from: gabmen on April 16, 2019, 03:30:52 AM

Lol. An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in god, satan and any other deities and what can only change their minds are actual evidences that these personslities actually do exist. Gambling has no evidence to provide. At all. It's easier to convert a theist to an atheist than the other way around.

I agree, if you're an atheist then gambling can make your belief in satan or against God turn to worst IMO because usually those who gets addicted in gambling are losing their ways.

Gambling is about luck, you can seek for guidance or motivation to God but it cant promise you to win the game hence if you're going to gamble better to prepare for the worse instead of winning so it wont hurt you that much.

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