Can personal message (PM) apare on ninjastic space?

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Quote from: rachael9385 on August 16, 2023, 10:12:17 AM

With my whole time been in Bitcointalk I haven't gotten one thing clear, it might be because I haven't read the whole forum but I am still skeptical about my thoughts.
I want to know if I sent a user a personal message (PM) and I delete the massage, will the message sti spear in ninjastic space?
My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

you can see the screen shot that I put below, is there an option to view personal messages?

I've been using ninjastic.space for a long time, I often look there to monitor the posting habits that I make so I can make posts in many sections and threads but I have never seen an option to monitor personal messages that other members have (for wallet address of course there is)
so I hope you throw away your worries about this, from what I know, your message is very safe and the admin will never leak it to anyone lol

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Noo!! PM can't be checked/viewed/access via ninjastic space or any third party method. It's called personal message for a reason because it's personal. It doesn't matter if a message is deleted or not. Nobody has access to it but only the sender and recipient. You can only check public content using ninjastic space.

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Even you didn't delete it, the personal message will not appear in ninjastic space?[/b] personal message is meant for the sender and the recipient so there is no third party is allow to see those messages, but the only person that can see such messages is Sir theymos and I don't think moderators can see that as well.

ninjastic space?[/b] only capture posts and articles that are in the public domain and not in the private sector. If private messages were appearing in the ninjastic space?[/b] guy things would have happened in Reputation Board. We would have seen drama upon Drama. And it is better in this way.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on August 16, 2023, 10:12:17 AM

With my whole time been in Bitcointalk I haven't gotten one thing clear, it might be because I haven't read the whole forum but I am still skeptical about my thoughts.
I want to know if I sent a user a personal message (PM) and I delete the massage, will the message sti spear in ninjastic space?
My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

No...Otherwise, the anonymity is kept protected for real...
Yeahhh, I get your point - but most things that are applicable on posts aren't the same in PM's. On Posts, it's made that way so noone is able to prove something daft, insensible, sensible... whatever and get away with it or get forgotten in a hurry (if it gets deleted, adjusted or edited as the case might be).

Quote from: LoyceV on August 17, 2023, 01:38:17 AM

If I could, there's a $50k bounty waiting: If you can access any user's PMs arbitrarily, without any interaction from the user, and without any secret data such as user passwords.

that's Alot of cash bruh! Sure hope you developing?! (Rhetorical)

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The only way for a personal message to appear in ninjastic.space or other automated sites is if somebody posts it in public first. So that's either you, or the other party.

Alternatively, as LoyceV already wrote, you'd have to take advantage of some unknown security vulnerability that allows you to read any person's private messages.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on August 16, 2023, 01:56:29 PM

LoyceV’s bot and Ninjastic’s do not have access to personal messages.

If I could, there's a $50k bounty waiting:

Quote from: aysg76 on August 17, 2023, 12:29:44 AM

The site also use API to fetch data from the forum

There is no API on Bitcointalk.

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The site also use API to fetch data from the forum and data dumps to provide you with all the information but PM are not included in any of it as the name suggests like it's personal so they are not visible and @TryNinja himself has responded to your doubts about it.

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Quote from: TryNinja on August 16, 2023, 10:27:25 AM

All my bot can see are the public posts and merits.

Can you see other people’s PMs? No? Then my bot also can’t see it.

As said by the developer above it is impossible since PM are confidential and not public. So don't be scared of people seeing and being able to read your PM. It is only if your account is hacked that the hacker can see everything in your PM.

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Unless both parties ( receiver & sender) wants to disclose it to the public I don't think anyone else can read or scrap those messages. I am not sure whether the admin can access those messages as it is not disclosed to anyone. Furthermore why would ninjastic go after a users PM? Those messages doesn't won't provide any information that can be beneficial for the forum.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on August 16, 2023, 10:12:17 AM

I want to know if I sent a user a personal message (PM) and I delete the massage, will the message sti spear in ninjastic space?
My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

It is personal message, not private message.

You and a user who in PM contact are not only two members who can read those Personal messages. Who are other people can read those personal messages?

They are core admins like theymos and Cyrus if they want or if they have request from governments, police ...

Fortunately, normal users (not core admins) like you, me and other members, can not read personal messages of other users. This means scrappers can not read those personal messages too.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on August 16, 2023, 10:12:17 AM

I want to know if I sent a user a personal message (PM) and I delete the massage, will the message sti spear in ninjastic space?

Let's just say that content/posts that appear on ninjastic.space is that which is publicly available to all, anything else is private communication between one user to the other..hence the term " personal message " unless with special privileges as explained above

Quote from: rachael9385 on August 16, 2023, 10:12:17 AM

My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

Ninjastic is limited to only scrap content which is publicly accessible...besides if third parties could easily see what people talk about in their private chats, do you think the forum would be a popular place...I don't think so!!

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ninjastic space is an external website and has nothing related with forum administration or private databases. ninjastic space has nothing to do with users' personal messages. ninjastic space is to track posts/threads and users' activities like unedited deleted posts and mentions. Even moderators have no access to users' messages database, and only global admins (Theymos and Cyrus) have access to it.
There is already a discussion in Meta section about who has access to PM database: Privacy Concerns, Can Administrators and Mods Access Personal Messages?
The only way to receive a notification each time you get a forum personal message is by enabling email notifications because each time you receive a personal message you instantly receive an email.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on August 16, 2023, 10:12:17 AM

With my whole time been in Bitcointalk I haven't gotten one thing clear, it might be because I haven't read the whole forum but I am still skeptical about my thoughts.
I want to know if I sent a user a personal message (PM) and I delete the massage, will the message sti spear in ninjastic space?
My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

I have seen people make their personal messages public in the forum to prove a point or defend themselves during accusations. But they do it at will because nobody can access it except the administrators . It is easy to see deleted posts from ninjastic but I have never seen personal messages on the space. Personal messages are for private discussion. And I have never also seen any incident where these administrators release the PM of any member to the public. But if you want to know more about privacy on the forum you can check this link: https://bitcointalk.org/privacy.php