Topic: Can the world be a better place without religion? - page 2. (Read 713 times)

What you say is exactly what is happening in my country. Politicians are using religion to serve their political careers as well as their business. Because spirituality is something that people never have to pay dearly or cheaply for, even willing to sacrifice everything without a doubt. Not to mention, followers of this religion also speak ill of other religions, even causing discord among family members when family members do not share the same religion.
It can be said that nowadays, any religion has too many problems, everything is no longer going in the right direction as the original purpose for which it was born, everything becomes distorted.

All of your big points are based on false information.   Science is the process of proving something.   Religion cannot be proven because it exists individually in each mind you cannot test it.

Instead of quoting useless scripture - why not try and explain your ignorance?   If you have evidence no one else has, please share it.

In 900 years we absolutely could be living on the moons of Jupiter.  Again, science.

Living on the moons of Jupiter. Lol.

The only reason why we went to the moon back in the late '60's was competition for Russia. For decades scientists and NASA have propagandized us with the idea of setting up moon bases and living there. But it hasn't happened in 70 years.

Some new Orion videos talk like NASA doesn't have the radiation problem conquered. Didn't they do that in the late '60's when they went to the moon and back? Is somebody finally telling the truth - that we didn't really go?

Besides, by the looks of things, we might have an Armageddon war that will wipe out everything, including enough of technology that we won't have any idea when we will reach out for space again.

Fun ideas, though. But there are a lot of science fiction books and movies out there. For example, Youtube search on 'The Quiet Earth'.


Here is the big point. If we get rid of religion, we will have to get rid of what is called science. Why? Because much of it is just religion.

Think about how life will be in 900 years.  We'll be living on the moons of Jupiter and have started construction of our Dyson swarm.  Energy will be free and poverty non existent.  Now consider how religion paused all technical advancement for almost a millennium in the dark ages.  :/

The world would have been much better without religion, and will be much better without religion.  Their outdated ideas are not made for such population numbers.  When you see hundreds of thousands of people all doing these rituals, people die.

In some places around the world where the religion were adopted such as in Africa, there have been alot of misconception and confusion about the true nature of those religions, and that is why some of the leaders have chosen religion as a tool to deceive and oppressed the poor and the needy, now religion is more of business and the leader have turn their members into money making scheme, and this have been the issue for a while now, and that also have affected the relate and level of development in those countries, religious war have been on the increased lately and that have affected the entire security structure of the nations, much more also the politicians have chosen religious house's as a tool to winning election lately also this have been noted as one of the major issues lately with religion and it role in the society today.

So sad we get to see something like this happening, the religion we know then isn't what we are experiencing today, religion has been mocked beginning from the leaders and I would completely blame all the followers because they also failed to get deeper understanding of what they believe in. Truth be told, Religion has turned into doctrines according to how the leader wants it meanwhile the rules to every religion isn't something that could be amended but now it all ends on politics, debates and criticism.

I am also a religious person and as I said, I do not deny the role of religion in educating people to become better people. Also, I spend time learning about the history of some religions, reading their bibles...and most of the content is geared towards helping people become better. But religion is run by humans and human nature is jealous, selfish, envious, greedy...so it will be very difficult to prevent evil things from happening.

Not to mention that today religion is being politicized, many politicians take advantage of religion to attract followers to their side, taking advantage of people's trust...Overall, our world is becoming very chaotic and humans are the cause of it.

Religious philosophies have failed to transform humanity, instead, humanity has used religion as a weapon to destroy each other.

I get your points, Religion has done both good and bad, it has separated humans from fellow human, also leaded to favouring one and opposing the other but same religion has also limited ones unjustful behaviour in other to abide with the principles of their religion. I feel religion suits our existence, one good thing about religion is the way they spread and teaches about love both in and outside their religion but then there are also those who are into a religion by words but also don't practice accordingly and that is the sole reason why we get to see disputes and high level of oppositions, i believe all religion should be respected, if anyone wants to live his/her own religion to another then it should be based on personal convictions and not by force.

It's all about respect. When someone is proclaiming that he is in the right religion, he shouldn't say bad things about the others. Although criticisms are there, it's better to keep that principle to himself if he has seen the signs that doesn't go with his standards or his principles then he has to move forward and find a better one. What you've said is right and I agree about not being aggressive towards other religions. You keep those things that you are accustomed to with your religion and if that's helping you becoming a better person, that's a good religion you've got there.

This is where the debate starts although it's true that most of the religions want to help people to become a better person and get closer to God. The term "harm" has a broad meaning if it's about the belief of each religion.

I agree with you that most religions aim to educate and nurture people to be more honest and good. But do you realize that there is still conflict between religions? Every religion wants to have many followers and grow stronger, every religion wants people who follow other religions to abandon their faith to follow their religion. There have even been many wars in the world just because of disagreements between religions or just because they wanted their religion to become the strongest, they even tried to destroy other religions...This shows that as long as religion is jealous, selfish, and greedy, evils and crimes will still exist.

So whether the world would be better without religion is still a question mark. In my opinion, there is no answer to this question.

Religion is important in every aspect of life. Whichever religion you belong to study your scriptures in detail and you will get solution for every subject also if you ask religious guru you will get solution. There is no place for hatred in religion and every religion preaches mutual harmony and bridging the gap between rich and poor and helps the society economically. It also talks about the imposition of a right of the poor class on the wealth of the rich, which if the basis of justice is applied in the society as well as in the country, the number of poverty class in the country will decrease.

I agree with you that economics and religious dominance are the main causes of insecurity in most parts of the world today.  But at the same time, I will also say that no matter what religion he is, if he observes the customs of his own religion properly, then he cannot show such an aggressive attitude towards other religions.  Because I don't think that any religious book contains anything harmful to others.

I do not believe that a world without religion would be a better place to live. I believe that there would be a lot more crimes committed in this world. Don't you think that some people would have killed each other if it weren't for religion? Even with religion, some people still wish they could kill those who have offended them, I'm wondering what some people think of the world without religion, I don't think it would look much better, people would fornicate anywhere they wanted, and everyone would steal each other's belongings because there is no religion to teach what is right.

However, I believe that a world without religion is similar to a world without any details to teach us the right things in the world, we surely will have a parent who will teach us how to behave around our elders and how to be successful in our work without stealing or killing someone, but how do you think our parents will learn the right things to teach us if there is no religion? The world would look terrible without religion mate.

What about the first two people, with whom we all have common ancestry?

(I mean, were there multiple simultaneous evolutions of man and woman, and several times, so that all the races have different original ancestors? How would that even be possible since one evolution of one man and a woman at the same time is difficult enough to make work.)

So, what religion did the original two people have? I mean, when we look at the ancient buildings of the nations from around the world - going back for multiple thousands of years - it's evident that they all held religion in high honor. So, what was the religion of the first family?


Everybody has his own religion. Even the first two people had different religions. Why? Because no two people can think the same way to hold the same religion in their hearts and minds.

The point? Each person has his own religion. There are exactly as many religions in the world as there are people. The uniting of people in a formal religion is really a political unification. And the people can't really unite in depth, but they can only express that they are united in certain major points.

There is ONE religion that is universal in this world. Everybody has it in varying degrees. It's the religion of lies. Everybody is a liar. Every church that suggests that its people are the people of their religion is a church of lies.

There is one exception to this. It's the Church that lets Jesus run it... working through the Holy Spirit to make sure that all the people are united in spirit/Spirit. This church has people in all the Christian denominations in the world, and outside of them, too. But not all the people who say that the Holy Spirit is really working in them... not all these people really have the Holy Spirit.

I don’t think the world would have been a better place today without religion, long before the existence of any religion, there’s are always wars and disunity amongs people and the causes of it cannot be attached to religion because at of those days, they were fewer religions being practiced or none at all. The only thing that can bring peace and harmony to a particular region is humanity amongst ourselves, any other thing comes secondary to it and if humanity is been disrupted, every other thing will have severe impact on the people living in the region.

All religion and culture preaches peace and harmony but why isn’t any of those teachings making them not to stop or avoid all those religious wars, it is because they’re inhuman and a person with humanity and irrespective of their religion will not harm another person even when given the chance to do so. Let love lead, let humanity be embedded in us and the world will live for centuries more as a better place to live in. Religion and culture are being used by the perpetrators, sponsors of war in other to cover their own crimes and find a way to justify where the war is headed where it’s practically being headed by them.

Hey, that's an interesting religion you have there.     

Paganism is/was just another Religion, a belief system. By sacrificing plants,
animals and in some cases other human beings the belief and hopes were that the
gods would bring a favourable year of growing and harvest and would guarantee
survival for another year.

"modern" religions like Christianity have taken the concept one step further, they
GUARANTEE life after death! whats not to like about that? of course there is no proof
(besides what the Bible teaches) but people blindly believe in a "one God" and a
life after death.

The thing is the belief is that there isnt just one God, there are several, with different
names.....made up by humans!


I 100% disagree with you, It is very easy to live without Religion, I do it every day!
I lead a very simple peaceful life, I respect others who reciprocate and I havent killed anyone.

You should try breaking free of the chains which organised religion have placed on
you. Dont be afraid of not reaching a fantasy realm, we all return to nature just as the
big wheel has intended.

the society has witnessed a whole lot of improvement in different aspect of life most expecially as regards living a more modest life than when religion was a thing in the society. Thier are several practices apart from the killing of twin that was predominant in the past most expecially in the typical African setting that the introduction of religion into the region has helped to solve. But then, total obidient to certain religious believes to it entirety has also brought with it the notion that you must abide by the believe to it entirety and if by the believe of your religion you're to kill your child to prove that you have given total submission to what you worship, a lot of people will happily do it and we can see an example in almost all the religion. For the Christian we know of the story of Abraham and Isaac on the test fir Abraham to sacrifice Issac as a burnt offering and how he obeyed explicitly, the Moslem also carry out same practice of total obedience and the traditional worshipers even do worse. What makes religious beautiful is that it's a bit moderate and civilized with her conduct which makes it understandable on why they go extreme at the instances like those I outlined.

as much we understand that the kind of peace we experience in a religious setting far surpasses what you experience at other social gatherings, there are those that will argue that in other social gatherings, they experience the highest level of piece.for me, it's the assurance that after one exits this world, thier is hope for him in the life after that makes being part of a religious movement worth it. Though it could be too strict on certain religious believes, religious teaching is what has gone to shape the society from the negative societal vices that's now a problem globally.

How can people live without religion, like you can never live outside of family. Although people were not anti-religion in the past many Arabs and pagan Christian nations were mainly involved in the most evil practices.  Where female children were killed and buried fresh. All these immoral and bad actions were most common in the period of Jahiliyyah.

Without religion, people could never live in the right position, so people are able to live their lives rightly because of the presence of religion.  Religion is the only place of peace there is no other place where there is peace and therefore without religion it is never possible to live.

Your point of view is very correct and reasonable that to date no religious teaching appears to be harmful to anyone and politics is not a bad thing politics is also a very important thing due to which people can live in an orderly manner in the world and manage all their activities properly. But because of some privileged groups or people many have a negative perception of politics. So I think if religious discipline is practiced in politics then the world will become really beautiful.