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Topic: Can the World Really Abandon the Dollar As A Reserve Currency? - page 2. (Read 3432 times)

sr. member
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GE coin for the win! Grin
legendary
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The reserve currency status of dollar is not formal at the moment. It was, at the time of Bretton Woods conference.

Reserve currency can mean the preferred currency for reserves in other national currency banks. They use the reserves to regulate the value of the national currency. National banks now try to diversify. It also means that it is the currency preferred in international trade. Due to history, this has been USD from the second world war.

In international trade, sometimes dollar is used even if both traders reside in non-dollar countries, meaning that both parties have to convert. This sounds irrational, but for instance the Venezuelan bolivar/ icelandic crown pair is thinly traded, and it is easier for each merchant to relate to the dollar.

The reason we have the system of150 national currencies anyway, is that each government wants to steal from their constituents through inflation.

Anyway, the take home point is that traders decide what is the currency used for international trade. It will not be easy for china or someone else to change the current situation. It is about convenience and trust in the continued value, and trust that the the money can be used freely.


The Chinese Yuan will have to become freely convertible, before people start looking at it as a reserve currency. Right now, even if you have CNY, there aren't many assets that a non-Chinese can buy.
legendary
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What china have to to, to make the yuan the preferred money for trade, is to stop all currency import export restrictions, let money exchangers, small and large exist without bullying, and let a bank system disconnected from the existing usa dominated banks grow up. They will also have to show som discretion in the money printing. I can not see any of those things happen.

Trying to keep the money within a countrys border is absurd, but kings have tried to do that in thousands of years. They don't understand that money is not goods, services and capital, the things that make a country rich. Misses de Kirchner in Argentina is doing it right now (with dollars), taking the country down with her.

When money flows out of a country, the people in that country will try to replenish their cash balances by exporting more, thus correcting the situation and make everybody richer. That's why there should be no currency restrictions.
legendary
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The reserve currency status of dollar is not formal at the moment. It was, at the time of Bretton Woods conference.

Reserve currency can mean the preferred currency for reserves in other national currency banks. They use the reserves to regulate the value of the national currency. National banks now try to diversify. It also means that it is the currency preferred in international trade. Due to history, this has been USD from the second world war.

In international trade, sometimes dollar is used even if both traders reside in non-dollar countries, meaning that both parties have to convert. This sounds irrational, but for instance the Venezuelan bolivar/ icelandic crown pair is thinly traded, and it is easier for each merchant to relate to the dollar.

The reason we have the system of150 national currencies anyway, is that each government wants to steal from their constituents through inflation.

Anyway, the take home point is that traders decide what is the currency used for international trade. It will not be easy for china or someone else to change the current situation. It is about convenience and trust in the continued value, and trust that the the money can be used freely.
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The more relevant question is to what lengths the US will go to ensure that the USD continues to be the Reserve Currency
It's a push not a pull issue

Technology has enable the world at faster pace.

In the old day, replacing a reserve currency might take 1-2 decades.

If China and Russia decided to screw US, it might only take 5-10 years.
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Its certainly possible ... I don't see how the US dollar can stand if the US government keeps getting more debt and the FED keeps creating billions of dollars in EFT's a day.

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I don't think countries will abandon The dollar as a reserve currency. The US is still a huge economy and countries trading with the US will always need to hold the dollar to stablise their own currency. But it's role as the main reserve currency will weaken against RMB and EUR.
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I don't think it matters much to central banks which currency is the dominant one as long as they have control on it. Every nation's economy is so entrenched with the rest of the world it's hard to say if there's any indipendence left and seeing how things are going in the financial world, it doesn't make sense to continue protecting actual currencies. Considering how ECB is trying to reach parity with the dollar, despite what they say, I guess someone has a vision to propose a global currency, I know it's a hot topic in places like "conspiracy forums" but you know what they say about broken clocks.

Hmm. All cryptos are global currencies... but you are correct, it's all about control and control means monopoly of money creation. Without monopoly there is no control.
legendary
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no way in hell is USD going anywhere at least not in the next while.
and that goes for Fiat in any country i think..

you can't have a main currency that requires the user to pay a lot of money to an ISP for internet access.
not just for the wallet etc but for various related services.

the entire world would need to transform in a colossal way before we even come close to this and by the time i doubt Bitcoin will be the currency we want to use.

i was watching a show on TV last night about a town in Italy that was plagued by fires
and to test they had to cut the power grid to the whole town for a looong time and evacuate all people
they never did figure out what was causing it either.
they did notice that computers and usb drives were wrecked and corrupted and magnetic spikes were recorded like something was attacking the town
some speculated it was a military weapon being tested considering the USA military notoriously did testing off the coast where the town was..
who knows maybe it was from outerspace ? gamma ray burst or something or hell even a Harp directed attack of sorts from Alaska ?

the results were obvious though.. everything was catching on fire and computers were useless and usb drives were getting wiped out !
so what is this crap about Bitcoin again ? LOL

one solar flare of a high enough X class from the sun and we could wipe out all PC's in North America with a few minutes warning *again.
Building a Financial infrastructure on digital reliance's is not just foolish but simply not doable and will fail.
and the USA gov etc knows this !
so why would they drop Fiat for a system that requires a giant grid of computers to run at all times and have every person on earth connected to an ISP (for a fee) ?
when you can just keep a piece of paper or a coin in your back pocket ?

and i hate to burst your bubble guys but the internet is not bullet proof and can be taken out easily and it will happen and prob soon.

the notion of some digital currency replacing Fiat is simply silly nonsense.
it will happen when we master Star Trek teleportation maybe lol
sr. member
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It is happening as we speak. As the American economy goes, so goes American money.
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It is definitely possible.  However, the all seeing eye of the dollar will never die.  In a sense, you could say that the eye of the illuminati will immortalize the dollar.  In reality, the dollar with will just die with the US.
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If yo udo the math, the dollar is set to collapse within the next decades, BUT the powers that be will not let this happen, they will come up with something and the public will swallow it. The dollar is immortal.
sr. member
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It's possible  Cheesy, but it's very difficult  Sad

If there are stable currency & everyone use that currency
That will happen  Smiley
sr. member
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for the moment I think the dollar is still the belle of the world's currencies, as the American economic policy, the dollar is still very much needed by the majority of countries that have economic ties with America, currently the biggest rival the dollar is the euro, most of-state European countries use the euro as their currency trade, the euro was deliberately made ​​by them to compete with the American dollar, but it is in addition to European countries rarely use the euro as their currency trading ...  Cool
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The more relevant question is to what lengths the US will go to ensure that the USD continues to be the Reserve Currency
It's a push not a pull issue

The US is backed by OIL, ARMY and ROTHCHILD so there. I don't think we'll ever get rid of it, too many agendas depend on it.
The US economy actually consists primarily of services provided to others.

The US is a net importer of oil. The US military spends much more then it "earns" while it occupies other countries. I am not sure what "rothchild" means so I cannot respond
legendary
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...A change will have to be made, the only speculation is to what.

Agreed, also the USA debt levels are way out of control. "What?" and "when?" are both unknown, but clearly huge changes are ahead.
The "Next Great Depression" has been avoided for a long time, how much longer to we have before it hits?  Shocked

The "Next Great Depression" will be a global one. Economies are interlinked to a great extent. Governments will work in tandem and try to avoid it.
legendary
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If USD really suffers a major collapse, it will most likely be the International Monetary Fund (IMF) that will take over.  It is based in Washington DC anyways so it has it close ties to the US.  I have a feeling that it would not be too difficult for the US to just decide if things got too bad, that the IMF would use their "Special Drawing Rights" or "XDR" as the new currency at that point. (for more info on this just go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_drawing_rights )

Of course, with BTC, we have a hedge against the decline of the dollar.  I don't think BTC could ever be the world's reserve currency, but it could surprise us all. Wink  I do think it could become widely used in conjunction with other currencies for sure.  It already is!
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The more relevant question is to what lengths the US will go to ensure that the USD continues to be the Reserve Currency
It's a push not a pull issue

The US is backed by OIL, ARMY and ROTHCHILD so there. I don't think we'll ever get rid of it, too many agendas depend on it.
legendary
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...A change will have to be made, the only speculation is to what.

Agreed, also the USA debt levels are way out of control. "What?" and "when?" are both unknown, but clearly huge changes are ahead.
The "Next Great Depression" has been avoided for a long time, how much longer to we have before it hits?  Shocked
legendary
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The more relevant question is to what lengths the US will go to ensure that the USD continues to be the Reserve Currency
It's a push not a pull issue

The US is willing to wage wars for oil...  Grin
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