Can trading be considered as gambling?? - page 7.

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Quote from: crazycatwoman03 on October 31, 2017, 04:59:16 PM

Quote from: erpbridge on December 24, 2016, 06:20:54 PM

Obviously not. If trading was gambling, then all the wall street offices would shut down after being in loss, because no one will invest money into them if it is considered as trading. There is just risk, which is true for a lot of things in life. Its just not a pure gamble.

I agree with you, maybe gambling and trading has money involve but the result is different. Gambling result in the end is zero, unlike in trading that has sure profit. And if we become addicted in gambling we always want to play even we have no money, we always want to come back for chances of winning or back some lose money. And if we become addicted in trading the result is good, because if we stop from the failures/mistakes we did not reach our aim especially in bitcoin that gives huge profit to the trader.

Gambling and trading are two different approaches indeed. One is a way of trying your luck and other is a use of your skills and hard work to increase your earnings. Being a gambler is more risky than being a trader because I think that the chances to lose your capital are greater in this field. Luck is something that could change your life even in a matter of seconds and being the basic requirement of gambling, it owes success to quite a few people.

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Quote from: oHnK on November 13, 2017, 10:15:04 AM

Quote from: jassanpary on November 13, 2017, 09:34:22 AM

Trading is different gambling is different, no interconnection between the two. For trading one has to need better understanding of basics of trade and how it operates.

It is very different but not that it has no relation at all, it has relation and some people keep thinking that it is the same. We need some basic to trade and if it is to make some money then trading is the best option . If it is for having fun then gambling no doubt with that. It cant be considered as gambling but they are both very similar actually

Is it a fact that we all want to learn on something and earn a lot of money. Having fun is the advantage of gambling especially if you know that it is for entertainment not for profit making. Just like you said you cannot consider it as a gambling but the part of taking a risk is the same.

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Quote from: jassanpary on November 13, 2017, 09:34:22 AM

Trading is different gambling is different, no interconnection between the two. For trading one has to need better understanding of basics of trade and how it operates.

Both concepts is different but the risk is almost same in trading and gambling.

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Quote from: jassanpary on November 13, 2017, 09:34:22 AM

Trading is different gambling is different, no interconnection between the two. For trading one has to need better understanding of basics of trade and how it operates.

It is very different but not that it has no relation at all, it has relation and some people keep thinking that it is the same. We need some basic to trade and if it is to make some money then trading is the best option . If it is for having fun then gambling no doubt with that. It cant be considered as gambling but they are both very similar actually

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Trading is different gambling is different, no interconnection between the two. For trading one has to need better understanding of basics of trade and how it operates.

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i think what make trading and gambling the same was both are really risky but both are so different in gambling there is a point that you can't controll your money you bet and always lose in the game while in trading you know for your self how to controll to it you don't put all your money in trading as long as you felt doubt.

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Quote from: BitcoinIsAlgebraic on November 05, 2017, 05:44:26 AM

Trading and gambling are closely related the same as investment and gambling are very closely related. I think trading can be counted as gambling just because your hoping for higher prices when it may never come.

Trading and gambling is a big difference, in gambling we cant predict the outcome it's based on luck, the only way to predict gambling is to play skills-based gambling like sports, research and analyze the team could make us on profit. in others hands, trading, we are not hoping the price goes higher but we predict it using technical analysis.

We can never be sure of the outcome in gambling especially if it's something that you are not used to having. If you think that you will have to increase the chance of winning in it, it's okay because you can by applying strategies in gambling and that would significantly improve your performance. In trading, you will risk your money in a way that you hope that you will profit, like the price of it rising.

That makes trading gambling but a controlled form of gambling when you only choose how you're going to risk your money according to your expectations on profit and it comes with skill and some basic understanding of forex markets and stock exchange.

I am sorry but there is no connection between trading and gambling. Gambling is a total blank game n adhere you don’t know what is going to happen in the next moment whereas in trading you are quite familiar with the future events such as the rise and fall time spans of the coins. You just don’t lose all in a matter of seconds in trading whereas this shit does happen in gambling.

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Quote from: Caladonian on November 09, 2017, 10:23:51 PM

Quote from: wall101 on November 09, 2017, 09:37:08 PM

It's not very risky to use trading as you compare gambling is too risky than trading because it's not always enough money to lose if you're 100% trading 30% can only beat you but when gambling 70% chance can beat That's why gambling is far between trading. Grin

well in reality that's the big factors of trading, you can minimize your loses and bouncing back have much bigger chances, unlike with gambling where the whole bankroll of yours are always at risk and sometimes its just a one time big time loss those who's betting yolo are really ending up busted.

That's true, I can prove that base on my performance in gambling because I usually spend my earning in trading to gamble and I never win
in gambling in the long run unlike the success I get in trading. I should just spend gambling for fun and be more discipline, sometimes I am really tempted to play.

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Quote from: wall101 on November 09, 2017, 09:37:08 PM

It's not very risky to use trading as you compare gambling is too risky than trading because it's not always enough money to lose if you're 100% trading 30% can only beat you but when gambling 70% chance can beat That's why gambling is far between trading. Grin

well in reality that's the big factors of trading, you can minimize your loses and bouncing back have much bigger chances, unlike with gambling where the whole bankroll of yours are always at risk and sometimes its just a one time big time loss those who's betting yolo are really ending up busted.

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It's not very risky to use trading as you compare gambling is too risky than trading because it's not always enough money to lose if you're 100% trading 30% can only beat you but when gambling 70% chance can beat That's why gambling is far between trading. Grin

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We can consider trading as gambling but with a minimal chance of losing and minimal risk compared to gambling. Trading is way profitable than gambling too and the more you experience trading the more you become expert and if you become one you can then earn more compared to gambling.

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Quote from: South Park on November 09, 2017, 06:06:28 PM

Quote from: BitcoinIsAlgebraic on November 05, 2017, 05:44:26 AM

Trading and gambling are closely related the same as investment and gambling are very closely related. I think trading can be counted as gambling just because your hoping for higher prices when it may never come.

If you are trading hoping to see an higher price then you are effectively gambling but all the traders that make money trading do not do that, they look at the charts an apply principles that have been tested over and over again and by following them they are able to get some profits.

Definitely yes, trading is really based on your skills to read charts and not just hoping for the price to go up because you personally read every single movements of the price. Gambling is different, you are just their hoping that you can earn big money for just a short period of time.

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Gambling and trading are different in many things, The first is based mostly on luck and you can't and in any time you can lose or win, but when we talk about trading, we talk about skills and experience about altcoins market, If you have a good knowledge about that you can make a great profit unlike from gambling.

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Quote from: BitcoinIsAlgebraic on November 05, 2017, 05:44:26 AM

Trading and gambling are closely related the same as investment and gambling are very closely related. I think trading can be counted as gambling just because your hoping for higher prices when it may never come.

If you are trading hoping to see an higher price then you are effectively gambling but all the traders that make money trading do not do that, they look at the charts an apply principles that have been tested over and over again and by following them they are able to get some profits.

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Quote from: ffmad on November 09, 2017, 04:15:57 PM

Gambling and trading are different in many things, The first is based mostly on luck and you can't and in any time you can lose or win, but when we talk about trading, we talk about skills and experience about altcoins market, If you have a good knowledge about that you can make a great profit unlike from gambling.

Tell me if you have a lot of knowledge about football, experience from participating in that sport and in betting can you make huge profit?
If you are good in reading people, and you have good self-control can you be a good poker player and make a lot of profit from that?
Crypto market is new for many of us, we still learn where to find good informations, valid informations. Internet is full with spam, pump and sump groups, fudsters, reading crypto market can be a hard task. And sometimes trading is like gambling, only safe trading is buying bitcoin or some other stable alt and waiting for price rise, that will come eventually and you will have your profit, but that is gambling, what if market collapse for any reason.

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Quote from: poplolnman on November 08, 2017, 05:31:28 PM

Quote from: Klausi on November 08, 2017, 10:50:10 AM

Quote from: sheilasekarbumi on November 05, 2017, 05:11:02 AM

Yes, in generally, Gambling and trading are the same but they just were differents in some features. Cause they're both investment can give back the good profit to the investors over time. And both of them need good stragedies to make the profit come true or losing everything is possible.

Indeed, they are quite the same in terms of gaining but they are different in some features like reputation and becoming rich. In you lose in trading it will not destroy your reputation in fact people will be proud of you because you try to earned in a decent way but if you lose in gambling your reputation will be ruin specially if you lost almost everything including your family because gambling is a vice. In talking of to become rich, i think no one become rich because of gambling but i know a lot of people who become rich because of trading in these people make me inspired to pursue on trading.

some people confused about this , they have learn everything about how to become a pro trader but they are still struggle. everything just feel like the same when you gamble . and that moment just makes them angry and prefer to go for gambling instead wasting time to do a lot of things before start to trade. i won't blame them , trading sometimes sucks but of course not as sucks as gambling.

Trading only sucks if we failed to gather information and understand the incoming signals of the trend. Before the price move, there is always an indicators on what trend it will go. A good trader can sense this. so I guess trading will never be nor considered as gambling unless we really do not know what we are doing. There is a huge difference of these two especially the risk being involved.

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Quote from: oHnK on November 08, 2017, 02:58:44 PM

Quote from: xebecstyx on November 08, 2017, 10:52:39 AM

I agree. It can be considered gambling due to the risk it carries, and due to actually what's being traded. Considering the volatility in value plus the market trends that keep on changing, you can actually consider trading like you are gambling because of the fact that your results would be unsure. Therefore, winning meaning earning, or losing, meaning losing your investment would be hard to gauge.

It is not really the same because in gambling we cant win money for sure . I just think that some people dont know the difference but they think because it has the risk then it is the same. Sometimes it is almost similar but it is definitely not the same, it is different because investment supposed to make us some money but we cant get that in gambling

You are right, gambling doesn't give money because its suppose to favor the operators and make them profitable while we are giving our money. Therefore it's necessary to enjoy gambling so we can justify our loses as gambling is only for entertainment, when you aim for money you should know how risky it is and how hard as well, only few can do it so better evaluate yourself first if your skills can sustain for long term success.

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Quote from: Klausi on November 08, 2017, 10:50:10 AM

Quote from: sheilasekarbumi on November 05, 2017, 05:11:02 AM

Yes, in generally, Gambling and trading are the same but they just were differents in some features. Cause they're both investment can give back the good profit to the investors over time. And both of them need good stragedies to make the profit come true or losing everything is possible.

Indeed, they are quite the same in terms of gaining but they are different in some features like reputation and becoming rich. In you lose in trading it will not destroy your reputation in fact people will be proud of you because you try to earned in a decent way but if you lose in gambling your reputation will be ruin specially if you lost almost everything including your family because gambling is a vice. In talking of to become rich, i think no one become rich because of gambling but i know a lot of people who become rich because of trading in these people make me inspired to pursue on trading.

some people confused about this , they have learn everything about how to become a pro trader but they are still struggle. everything just feel like the same when you gamble . and that moment just makes them angry and prefer to go for gambling instead wasting time to do a lot of things before start to trade. i won't blame them , trading sometimes sucks but of course not as sucks as gambling.

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Quote from: xebecstyx on November 08, 2017, 10:52:39 AM

I agree. It can be considered gambling due to the risk it carries, and due to actually what's being traded. Considering the volatility in value plus the market trends that keep on changing, you can actually consider trading like you are gambling because of the fact that your results would be unsure. Therefore, winning meaning earning, or losing, meaning losing your investment would be hard to gauge.

It is not really the same because in gambling we cant win money for sure . I just think that some people dont know the difference but they think because it has the risk then it is the same. Sometimes it is almost similar but it is definitely not the same, it is different because investment supposed to make us some money but we cant get that in gambling

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Quote from: PeRo on December 24, 2016, 05:12:41 PM

It can be considered as gambling in one hand, but in the other hand there are major differences, such as when you lose in gambling you lose it all and in trading you lose the difference between the buying price and the selling price. Gambling is pretty much giving away money to the site or casino and trading is real earning money.

I agree. It can be considered gambling due to the risk it carries, and due to actually what's being traded. Considering the volatility in value plus the market trends that keep on changing, you can actually consider trading like you are gambling because of the fact that your results would be unsure. Therefore, winning meaning earning, or losing, meaning losing your investment would be hard to gauge.

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