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Elon is running Twitter into the ground. He is not capable of properly managing a social media platform. People who are politically aligned with Musk benefit from getting higher visibility on their tweets. Also a ton of spam, scam and troll accounts are getting boosted merely by purchasing a blue checkmark. People don't want to join a site that is biased and elevating junk content. Musk chased away advertisers and admitted that Twitter is losing money. I don't really see how they will be able to make their product more valuable.

Exactly. The way Twitter is now, it wouldn't be long before it dies. Even today most celebrities, public figures and businesses are using Instagram to connect to their target audience. Twitter, which used to be a big thing for fandoms and communities, has truly lost its appeal, specially when Musk decided to make such obnoxious changes that only benefited him and not the users.

I also disagree with Elon's new changes to Twitter, what he is doing is for his own pocket rather than creating fairness for Twitter users and developers. But just with the Threads app created by Mark, and believes it's possible to beat Elon is impossible. Have you used Threads? It's really so bad that it looks like an Instagram clone and doesn't have any improvements. It creates temporary hype, but at the end of the day, people turn to Twitter again. Therefore, predicting this social network will soon die is incorrect, I disagree.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 22, 2023, 12:50:54 AM

Elon is running Twitter into the ground. He is not capable of properly managing a social media platform. People who are politically aligned with Musk benefit from getting higher visibility on their tweets. Also a ton of spam, scam and troll accounts are getting boosted merely by purchasing a blue checkmark. People don't want to join a site that is biased and elevating junk content. Musk chased away advertisers and admitted that Twitter is losing money. I don't really see how they will be able to make their product more valuable.

Exactly. The way Twitter is now, it wouldn't be long before it dies. Even today most celebrities, public figures and businesses are using Instagram to connect to their target audience. Twitter, which used to be a big thing for fandoms and communities, has truly lost its appeal, specially when Musk decided to make such obnoxious changes that only benefited him and not the users.

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Elon is running Twitter into the ground. He is not capable of properly managing a social media platform. People who are politically aligned with Musk benefit from getting higher visibility on their tweets. Also a ton of spam, scam and troll accounts are getting boosted merely by purchasing a blue checkmark. People don't want to join a site that is biased and elevating junk content. Musk chased away advertisers and admitted that Twitter is losing money. I don't really see how they will be able to make their product more valuable.

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Quote from: davis196 on July 13, 2023, 05:56:14 AM

It's easy to gain new users for this Threads app, since Meta owns Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp.
It's pretty clear at this point that Threads was built to be Twitter's competitor and maybe it will attract all the advertisers, who left Twitter.
I hear news about Zuckerberg hiring people, who were fired at Twitter by Elon Musk(and Musk isn't happy at all).
Meta stocks are getting a short term price pump, because the investors have positive expectations about Threads.
The idea of Elon Musk building a Twitter clone app is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The only right move for Musk would be to leave/sell Twitter.

This is true, Threads is obviously the main competitor of Twitter right now. Additionally, with all the recent changes that Musk added to Twitter, users are getting more and more reasons to leave the platform. At this point, the already dying Twitter will soon be below Threads once celebrities and influencers transition to Threads.

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Quote from: dothebeats on July 19, 2023, 01:49:14 AM

Twitter, as much as many artists and well-known individuals are using it, is already a slowly dying platform. Most businesses and artists are using Instagram more to reach out and connect with their target audience. The appearance of Threads most likely did not trigger any threat against Twitter but it surely emphasize just how bad the platform is getting.

And this happens all the time, I still remember when myspace first came out and people thought it was the best thing on the world, and while it was able to gain many users quickly eventually cleaner and better platforms like Twitter and Facebook appeared and now no one uses myspace anymore.

So as much as some people may have some attachment to Twitter, it seems it is on its way to been replaced and unless Elon can reverse that trend then it is likely Elon will lose a lot of money once he tries to sell Twitter on the future.

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Twitter, as much as many artists and well-known individuals are using it, is already a slowly dying platform. Most businesses and artists are using Instagram more to reach out and connect with their target audience. The appearance of Threads most likely did not trigger any threat against Twitter but it surely emphasize just how bad the platform is getting.

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Zuckerberg has accumulated his wealth through technology advancements, and I believe his experience in this field will prove valuable, even though not all of his technology projects have been successful. On the other hand, Elon Musk's perceived arrogance and disregard for the customer base have led many to contemplate alternative platforms if they exist for Twitter

Twitter as a platform was losing users even before Elon, however once Elon took over Twitter they have lost way more users, however while this may sound like a bad thing, and in a way it is, stockholders at the end only care about the profitability of the company and not about the number of active users.

And in that regard I am not so sure if Elon is doing so badly as he has reduced the expenses of the company as many people got fired as well, so it is possible his administration has not been as bad as we think it has been.

hope that the report detailing Twitter's revenue for the year will be publicly released at the end of the year. This will allow us to assess its success in generating revenue. Personally, I am not in favor of purchasing at such a high price without a significant return. It seems that Elon Musk is unaware of how the app operates and fails to acknowledge the users' high level of interest

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If Elon Musk launches a clone of Twitter then I am not sure users can increase so quickly, because since buying Twitter shares there are many complaints that we hear, so it is very difficult to follow Mark Zuckerberg who is currently designing a new application that will continue to compete in the world of social media, especially Mark Zuckerberg does have his own expertise in designing each application and it has been proven on Meta which is currently experiencing an increase in users.

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Zuckerberg has accumulated his wealth through technology advancements, and I believe his experience in this field will prove valuable, even though not all of his technology projects have been successful. On the other hand, Elon Musk's perceived arrogance and disregard for the customer base have led many to contemplate alternative platforms if they exist for Twitter

Twitter as a platform was losing users even before Elon, however once Elon took over Twitter they have lost way more users, however while this may sound like a bad thing, and in a way it is, stockholders at the end only care about the profitability of the company and not about the number of active users.

And in that regard I am not so sure if Elon is doing so badly as he has reduced the expenses of the company as many people got fired as well, so it is possible his administration has not been as bad as we think it has been.

I think it's normal for a platform to lose its users but they can also gain users. Twitter was the second biggest social media site next to FB (if I'm correct) so their users are also high. Stockholders should care about the users or its numbers because this is what makes a company successful. They are the ones who avail a product inside the platform. Maybe it's only one of the strategy of Elon to reduce his employees to maximize his income?

And I can see that he add some features which can make him earn more money. Another reason for the employees being laid off is because of its new management and he might be planning to replace those employees with a new one.

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Twitters stock itself can't rise at the moment, it sucks and has been getting worse and worse over time as well, we can't really see it grow bigger until Elon sells it. You have to accept, no matter how much YOU may like him, he is not liked overall by the bigger population, twitter is not used by people who like him a lot neither, I am not saying there are none, just the amount of people who doesn't is bigger, and we can see this from horrible drop in ad revenue as well, even their twitter blue is not making them enough profit.

So all in all I have to say it is getting worse and will keep getting worse as well. Twitter one day will be gone, it is not going to be easy, but it will happen and when it does, it is going to hurt his finances a lot.

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Quote from: ololajulo on July 15, 2023, 03:15:18 PM

Zuckerberg has accumulated his wealth through technology advancements, and I believe his experience in this field will prove valuable, even though not all of his technology projects have been successful. On the other hand, Elon Musk's perceived arrogance and disregard for the customer base have led many to contemplate alternative platforms if they exist for Twitter

Twitter as a platform was losing users even before Elon, however once Elon took over Twitter they have lost way more users, however while this may sound like a bad thing, and in a way it is, stockholders at the end only care about the profitability of the company and not about the number of active users.

And in that regard I am not so sure if Elon is doing so badly as he has reduced the expenses of the company as many people got fired as well, so it is possible his administration has not been as bad as we think it has been.

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Quote from: alastantiger on July 12, 2023, 02:49:16 PM

Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

The question is what's the main purpose of threads that Zuckerberg has been added? I'm using Meta for a very long time already, and I don't think that I will be using this threads.

I'm also thinking that this threads has been created just because of the beef between Zuckerberg, and Elon Musk. I mean it has been released while they have a beef with each other. You already said that it's just a mere clone of Instagram, so maybe this threads will just die in a year or two if most Instagram users find Instagram better than threads. If not then some might switch, make a transition from Instagram to Threads.

To answer your question, I don't know the reason why Elon will create an app same as threads? I mean Elon Musk already said that Twitter cash flow is negative due to ad revenue declines, ‘heavy debt’ base on this article: LINK. I don't see any reason as to why Elon needs to create a clone of his Twitter app. For competition purposes? It's pretty obvious that the trend of Twitter is declining, and now he will create a clone of his own app? That's nonsense if you will ask me.

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I haven't used the new app, but I wouldn't be surprised if Meta would one day release an app like that. Meta's intention may not really be hard to guess. There's a certain kind of beauty in Twitter's design and Meta is probably aware of it and would want to have their own version. Could this be an experiment? Yes and no. Yes, because every new release is a test. You wouldn't know whether people would embrace it or not. At the same time, no, because it isn't entirely new. Part of the plan is to compete against Musk's Twitter.

It isn't an Instagram clone because you can do away with images. You can make text-only posts.

Why would Musk clone his own app? If Musk is to create a new platform, it would be similar to a competing platform like TikTok or YouTube or Instagram. Meta's Instagram team created Thread to put up a competitor against Twitter. So, Twitter team would probably not create a competitor against itself but against another app.

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Zuckerberg has accumulated his wealth through technology advancements, and I believe his experience in this field will prove valuable, even though not all of his technology projects have been successful. On the other hand, Elon Musk's perceived arrogance and disregard for the customer base have led many to contemplate alternative platforms if they exist for Twitter

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Quote from: alastantiger on July 12, 2023, 02:49:16 PM

Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

There is no transparency in many of Mark Zuckerberg application, I think this Threads is same firstly I noticed that it's just another version of Instagram and automatically you can get added by your friends from Instagram although some people who are in chase of increased followers but people like me that love privacy aren't cool with it.

I have stayed on the application for a while and if the intention was for threads to compete with Twitter then I don't see any competition, Twitter is on a league of its own and mark Zuckerberg should not expect to dethrone Twitter. I think threads hype would die down in few days .

Indeed, so far no one has been able to compete with Twitter but with Threads at least it makes competition even though it will be difficult,
I think we need to look at the positive side,
and regarding the hype it seems that we can see that from the beginning they started switching to Threads now they are back to Twitter.

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Quote from: alastantiger on July 12, 2023, 02:49:16 PM

Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

There is no transparency in many of Mark Zuckerberg application, I think this Threads is same firstly I noticed that it's just another version of Instagram and automatically you can get added by your friends from Instagram although some people who are in chase of increased followers but people like me that love privacy aren't cool with it.

I have stayed on the application for a while and if the intention was for threads to compete with Twitter then I don't see any competition, Twitter is on a league of its own and mark Zuckerberg should not expect to dethrone Twitter. I think threads hype would die down in few days .

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Quote from: alastantiger on July 12, 2023, 02:49:16 PM

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

Many people were already offended with Elon Musk for the changes he made to twitter when he took over. If not for the name that twitter already had and the fact that there was no alternative, twitter would have fallen a long time ago. Mark noticed this and took advantage creating a competition for Elon Musk Twitter. Elon Musk does not need to create a new platform; he just needs to make some changes to the polices he made on twitter and make it attractive since there is competition now so he can attract back the users of twitter that already left.

But that's not all that. If you are speaking of twitter but only referring to the owner Musk vs. Mark, well I guess you're missing a point. It's a quest between two companies not the wners. Twitter already has an established algorithm, purpose, and brand. There's content policy, free of speech. For most content creators and influencers, their main platform is twitter paying for those blue verified indicators. compared to threads, there's still a lot of improvement. Twitter has a lot of advantage to maintain its stock price, but once threads cope with those gaps it will surely blast its own trend.

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Quote from: alastantiger on July 12, 2023, 02:49:16 PM

Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

That was possibly one of the senseless things I've ever read. Facebook saw an opportunity to compete, by building a similar platform, with Twitter because Elon has ruined it so much. If Elon had any intelligence he would not have overpaid and then gutted the platform. He doesn't need to launch a rival because he already owns the largest version of that site in the space, he would just end up cannibalising Twitter even more.

Also, twitter shares were delisted from public listing, so all shares are privately held now and pricing is pretty much irrelevant because he is not selling any of them on the open market - there is no bump compared to Facebook.

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Quote from: Flexystar on July 13, 2023, 12:11:48 PM

Secondly, it was again worst move about the blue tick. In the initial version user had to prove their identity and now anyone can buy it with money. He turned it into money making machine not for the share holders but for himself.

I agree. The implementation of the paid verification to enable just anyone get verified and have the blue tick on your profile didn’t go down well with a lot of people. During the early stages where the paid verification was implemented, some nefarious characters tried to/ fooled a lot of people by impersonating verified accounts and some got away with it too.
Perhaps in his bid to recoup money, he got the idea of having people subscribe and pay to get verified on a free app cause funds gotten from other sources probably slowed down.

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Quote from: SamReomo on July 12, 2023, 11:42:07 PM

If Elon Musk wants to regain the trust of the users then he will have to convince the users that Twitter is still the old Twitter and the ones who will be using the platform wont be affected in any way due to the recent announcements. Or he may directly declare that he has changed his plans related to changing of Twitter, and even with a simple statement like this the stock price of Twitter will gain a pump within days. But, if Elon continues to stick with his announcements and ideas then in future the stock price of Twitter will fall further down to unexpected levels.

In what way has Elon failed? By uncovering collusion with the U.S. government and Twitter executives to influence elections and allowing free speech on the platform? Elon hurt his own wallet by purchasing Twitter. Right now it isn't profitable. There's more trust by Twitter users than there ever was before because of the transparency that was nonexistent when partisan hacks ran the company.

I've already seen Threads censors users. Assume that Zuckerberg and government bureaucrats will use the platform to data mine its users and breach user privacy.

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and even with a simple statement like this the stock price of Twitter will gain a pump within days. But, if Elon continues to stick with his announcements and ideas then in future the stock price of Twitter will fall further down to unexpected levels.

Are you at all aware that Twitter is a private company now?

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