Topic: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? - page 42. (Read 73493 times)
I think you must to have a capital of 10 billion USD to purchase the stock of the bitcoin to be able manipulate the bitcoin, if you just ask, of course that's not possible.
I think at the beginning it was easier, but as time went by this must have become more difficult, because the BTC distribution became better, and many whales probably started cashing out.
I think yes, we can. as there are a lot of people here who have a large amount of coins, But as said, better let the market be as it is and take whatever route it wants to.
No we can't the majority of this forum have crumbs of Bitcoins. The big holders are long gone from here mateYou are largely right, but it occurs to me to suppose that the big holders they are well-informed people of what happens around them, as they must stay well aware of what happens when there are changes in terms of price for example or changes such as updates or improvements on the code, so well, they surely will not spend all the time in this forum, but they will surely be aware of what is happening in some way or another, and with respect to their influence on prices, yes, they undoubtedly have a great influence on it.
Someone has influenced the price of Bitcoin, in connection with which it grows throughout most of the month. So there are people who manage price
A one-time sale of, say, 1,000 to 1,500 bitcoins can definitely move the price. I'm afraid you are overly optimistic about the liquidity.
Even at the low end, you are still talking close to a million dollars in one trade,
and that would probably only move the price a few dollars.
It would take multiple million-dollar transactions to move the price in any one direction for more than a few minutes at this point.
Bitcoin is used from most of us as an asset and not as a payment system. So I agree that some thousand of coins could change the direction of the price. Maybe could lead many users to sell their coins in panic. And yes million of dollars of transactions is easy with btc. We must feel that 1 million USD = 1000 btc now.
I would say that we can't manipulate bitcoin price because it depends on the demand of buyers the price will goes up and sometimes go down and if the demand decreases its price will be cheaper compared from previous which demand is higher. There were some speculations from those buyers who like bitcoin price to be cheaper and when it happens they buy bitcoins and sell again for they got big profit from it when btc price strikes again its peak price.
A one-time sale of, say, 1,000 to 1,500 bitcoins can definitely move the price. I'm afraid you are overly optimistic about the liquidity.
Even at the low end, you are still talking close to a million dollars in one trade,
and that would probably only move the price a few dollars.
It would take multiple million-dollar transactions to move the price in any one direction for more than a few minutes at this point.
Bitcoin is used from most of us as an asset and not as a payment system. So I agree that some thousand of coins could change the direction of the price. Maybe could lead many users to sell their coins in panic. And yes million of dollars of transactions is easy with btc. We must feel that 1 million USD = 1000 btc now.
I think yes, we can. as there are a lot of people here who have a large amount of coins, But as said, better let the market be as it is and take whatever route it wants to.
No we can't the majority of this forum have crumbs of Bitcoins. The big holders are long gone from here mate 
I think yes, we can. as there are a lot of people here who have a large amount of coins, But as said, better let the market be as it is and take whatever route it wants to.
A one-time sale of, say, 1,000 to 1,500 bitcoins can definitely move the price. I'm afraid you are overly optimistic about the liquidity.
Even at the low end, you are still talking close to a million dollars in one trade,
and that would probably only move the price a few dollars.
It would take multiple million-dollar transactions to move the price in any one direction for more than a few minutes at this point.
In such situations, we do not need to possess huge number of coins or buy or sell them to influence the market
I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum
I think we have big chance to make it happens as bitcoin users must know or will find out this forum.
If everyone agreed to be patient, not intended just for buy and sell, influence more people and market to adopt bitcoin, we may manipulate bitcoin price to be more stable and constantly increasing.
This forum is a good source for promoting the bitcoin.
You need big parties to really influence the bitcoin but yes it is possible without any doubts, I do not think that we can do it only with small amounts and some speculations.
Yes, I agree with this, all can be done so long as they can work together and do together, but provided with a number of very, very large, the size of the nominal I think it is very influential and seemed in exchange to do that.
price of anything can be manipulated and the only difference is in the size of the manipulation. and "they" don't have to work together! traders are wise enough to detect these things and also these changes happen on top of the natural changes of price. for example when price is going down they manipulate it by dumping more to push it more down. and same thing when price is going up.
A game of changing trends by several people who have taken big part,
So yepp bitcoin price can really be manipulated especially if you are on small place or small exchange.
I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum
I think we have big chance to make it happens as bitcoin users must know or will find out this forum.
If everyone agreed to be patient, not intended just for buy and sell, influence more people and market to adopt bitcoin, we may manipulate bitcoin price to be more stable and constantly increasing.
This forum is a good source for promoting the bitcoin.
I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum
I think we have big chance to make it happens as bitcoin users must know or will find out this forum.
If everyone agreed to be patient, not intended just for buy and sell, influence more people and market to adopt bitcoin, we may manipulate bitcoin price to be more stable and constantly increasing.
This forum is a good source for promoting the bitcoin.
I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum
I think we have big chance to make it happens as bitcoin users must know or will find out this forum.
If everyone agreed to be patient, not intended just for buy and sell, influence more people and market to adopt bitcoin, we may manipulate bitcoin price to be more stable and constantly increasing.
Like any other trading market, bitcoin price is also measured by the demand and supply. if the supply is more than the demand, the price will come down and vice versa. SO surely you can manipulate the bitcoin price but only if you have around a million dollar to play in the stock market.
If you start with few thousand dollar, they there will be no impact of its price. So if you have a deep pocket and you are willing to play with that in bitcoin market, then probably you will be able to manipulate otherwise not.
I think it is still impossible to manipulate the price because if they pump the price buy investing a large amount of money the price can be increase more and that can be attract more people to invest but if they gradually sell it the price will reduce but i think many people will still support if there is the price decrease and i think if they seen the price is decrease they will fill it again in order to stay the price long in the market or they can push more the price.. not one people can be manipulate the price.. If you start with few thousand dollar, they there will be no impact of its price. So if you have a deep pocket and you are willing to play with that in bitcoin market, then probably you will be able to manipulate otherwise not.
You need big parties to really influence the bitcoin but yes it is possible without any doubts, I do not think that we can do it only with small amounts and some speculations.
Yes, I agree with this, all can be done so long as they can work together and do together, but provided with a number of very, very large, the size of the nominal I think it is very influential and seemed in exchange to do that.
price of anything can be manipulated and the only difference is in the size of the manipulation. and "they" don't have to work together! traders are wise enough to detect these things and also these changes happen on top of the natural changes of price. for example when price is going down they manipulate it by dumping more to push it more down. and same thing when price is going up.
Like any other trading market, bitcoin price is also measured by the demand and supply. if the supply is more than the demand, the price will come down and vice versa. SO surely you can manipulate the bitcoin price but only if you have around a million dollar to play in the stock market.
If you start with few thousand dollar, they there will be no impact of its price. So if you have a deep pocket and you are willing to play with that in bitcoin market, then probably you will be able to manipulate otherwise not.
If you start with few thousand dollar, they there will be no impact of its price. So if you have a deep pocket and you are willing to play with that in bitcoin market, then probably you will be able to manipulate otherwise not.
You need big parties to really influence the bitcoin but yes it is possible without any doubts, I do not think that we can do it only with small amounts and some speculations.
Yes, I agree with this, all can be done so long as they can work together and do together, but provided with a number of very, very large, the size of the nominal I think it is very influential and seemed in exchange to do that.
It will hardly take 5 to 10 people to manipulate bitcoin price, but those 5 to 10 people must be financially similar to Warren Buffett, Jeff Bezos, Charles Koch, David Koch, Carlos Slim, Mark Zuckerberg, etc., etc., etc.
Otherwise it is not possible for us to manipulate price on the individual level.
You need big parties to really influence the bitcoin but yes it is possible without any doubts, I do not think that we can do it only with small amounts and some speculations.
Yes, I agree with this, all can be done so long as they can work together and do together, but provided with a number of very, very large, the size of the nominal I think it is very influential and seemed in exchange to do that.
A one-time sale of, say, 1,000 to 1,500 bitcoins can definitely move the price. I'm afraid you are overly optimistic about the liquidity.
Even at the low end, you are still talking close to a million dollars in one trade,
and that would probably only move the price a few dollars.
It would take multiple million-dollar transactions to move the price in any one direction for more than a few minutes at this point.
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