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Topic: Can we please fix the thread subject hijacking? (Read 525 times)

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legendary
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This filters out the ability for people to essentially abuse people's lackadaisical approach to the subject heading and prevents it from being hijacked, and everyone still gets to post whatever they like.

No, it doesn't.   Anyone who wants to change the subject to something more appropriate can still do so.

Read the factual post title and notice - I still got to post what I like.

Thanks for helping me prove yet again you are an idiot.  Cool
legendary
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Irony:

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You've just breached your own topic's subject...

That's not irony, that's the entire point of this thread. Thanks for helping me prove it.
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Irony:

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You've just breached your own topic's subject...
legendary
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It's a relic feature that dates back to IRCs so that tangents could more easily be followed.  It was actually a handy feature and utilized effectively in those days.  

Oops, did I just inadvertently give away my age?  Oh well, you guys probably already know that I'm a dinosaur Gen-Xer.  

Yeah it's not a big deal in forums.  It can be fun sometimes and annoying most of the time.

Except here we are supposed to stay on topic, this feature as you suggested is for rambling aimless conversations.
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It's a relic feature that dates back to IRCs so that tangents could more easily be followed.  It was actually a handy feature and utilized effectively in those days.  

Oops, did I just inadvertently give away my age?  Oh well, you guys probably already know that I'm a dinosaur Gen-Xer.  

Yeah it's not a big deal in forums.  It can be fun sometimes and annoying most of the time.
legendary
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I get your point as most people who do this seem to use it as a tool for trolling, though sometimes they are funny, though it is often also annoying when loads of people start to quote the changed header.

This flaw is too often abused.
I ask this seriously: is it really abused that often?  Maybe I haven't noticed it because it's a problem in sections I don't visit that you do (like P&S, which I think you post in), but I haven't seen members changing the thread title all that much.  Or it could be that I'm just not paying attention to it since there's really no need to.

Not often, but it is another angle people use to attack other users when they want get another dig in and it can take things off topic.

Somehow I can't see it catching on

How about also not being able to change the usernames in quotes as well?  Grin

There are two opposite sides of the allowable option to modify post title inside threads:

Advantages:
  • OPs or the other posters are able to modify post titles to mark changes of projects (developmental upgrades, future plans, ie.), campaigns (Open, CFNP, Full, ie.), etc.

Disadvantages:
  • There are many different post titles inside one thread, from OPs, or from the the other posters, that might mislead new guests.
  • It will probably cause uncontrolled trollings, ie. that is what TECSHARE asked for changes.

It seems like a lot of people don't bother reading before posting. Nothing I am suggesting would prevent people from modifying subject headings anyway. All I am requesting is that replies automatically mirror the subject heading in the original post, which may then be edited if so desired.

I dunno. Is this feature even necessary? The thing you seem to be complaining about is a minor thing compared to people using it to just troll. I'm not sure whether full on making it so others can't change the topic title would be better, but when users use it troll maybe those posts can be reported to be edited if they're off topic.

I am really not sure exactly what is so hard to understand about this concept. I am not suggesting locking the subject heading or preventing people from editing it if they so choose. All I am suggesting, is that when people reply, instead of quoting the subject heading of what they reply to, it quotes the subject heading of the op, which then if they so choose they can edit anyway. This filters out the ability for people to essentially abuse people's lackadaisical approach to the subject heading and prevents it from being hijacked, and everyone still gets to post whatever they like.
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It may not be that important but I still find it confusing though. I thought I was opening a new topic entitled "IT's NOT IMPORTANT" since it has no "Re:" but only to find out it's a reply to a thread.

Yes, it will be confusion. But I am thinking of a better action, the change will help users pay attention to others. I'm talking about an example where we want people to pay attention to a certain topic with our posts, we can change the subject thread into words that attract attention like what you were seen. I still think it's okay with this forum  Cheesy It is not a flaw  Grin
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You can change the topic of a thread using the following procedure:
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I've never looked that far in that menu, but this is a great trick to know! Note that you can also lose the self-moderated status by moving your topic to a board that doesn't allow it, and you can circumvent the 24h delay on deleting posts by temporarily moving it to another board too.
There are many subs that allow for self moderated threads, so you can move your thread to another sub that allows for self moderated threads if loosing your self moderated status is a concern.

I really don’t see the value in allowing for people to change the thread title for a response to a thread. There are some downsides such as some people use this feature to troll and it can add confusion.
sr. member
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You are right, we can change completely the thread subject, but it doesn't matter. You may not pay attention, but it always exists in this forum without any harm.

It may not be that important but I still find it confusing though. I thought I was opening a new topic entitled "IT's NOT IMPORTANT" since it has no "Re:" but only to find out it's a reply to a thread.


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You are right, we can change completely the thread subject, but it doesn't matter. You may not pay attention, but it always exists in this forum without any harm. We always know its existence, but rarely using.  Because when you visit a topic, you know the thread subject, you don't need to worry about what other members edit. Not much effect here and unnecessary for editing  Wink
legendary
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I get your point as most people who do this seem to use it as a tool for trolling, though sometimes they are funny, though it is often also annoying when loads of people start to quote the changed header.

This flaw is too often abused.
I ask this seriously: is it really abused that often?  Maybe I haven't noticed it because it's a problem in sections I don't visit that you do (like P&S, which I think you post in), but I haven't seen members changing the thread title all that much.  Or it could be that I'm just not paying attention to it since there's really no need to.

Not often, but it is another angle people use to attack other users when they want get another dig in and it can take things off topic.

Somehow I can't see it catching on

How about also not being able to change the usernames in quotes as well?  Grin

There are two opposite sides of the allowable option to modify post title inside threads:

Advantages:
  • OPs or the other posters are able to modify post titles to mark changes of projects (developmental upgrades, future plans, ie.), campaigns (Open, CFNP, Full, ie.), etc.

Disadvantages:
  • There are many different post titles inside one thread, from OPs, or from the the other posters, that might mislead new guests.
  • It will probably cause uncontrolled trollings, ie. that is what TECSHARE asked for changes.

It seems like a lot of people don't bother reading before posting. Nothing I am suggesting would prevent people from modifying subject headings anyway. All I am requesting is that replies automatically mirror the subject heading in the original post, which may then be edited if so desired.

I dunno. Is this feature even necessary? The thing you seem to be complaining about is a minor thing compared to people using it to just troll. I'm not sure whether full on making it so others can't change the topic title would be better, but when users use it troll maybe those posts can be reported to be edited if they're off topic.
legendary
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Again, I don't mean remove the ability to edit it, I mean by default it copies the OP heading. This flaw is too often abused.

I guess that Theymos could easily make that editbox read only, but as I see it's not what you propose.
And what you propose means more work and if it still can be edited in a way or another, it doesn't actually change (almost) anything.
legendary
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No, you quoted PrimeNumber7 first.
That was my point exactly Tongue
It's not allowed to make several posts in a row, so in this case it would have been better to stick to the original thread title.
Vod
legendary
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You can change the topic of a thread using the following procedure:
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I'm quoting you, but this post has PrimeNumber7's title. I'm now paying attention to it, but normally I don't.

No, you quoted PrimeNumber7 first.
legendary
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I barely look at post titles, and I don't even mind someone "hijacking" later post titles by changing his post title, but it is annoying when I quote multiple posts and copy/paste them together. Like this post: I started by quoting PrimeNumber7, and now it has his post title. That would be fine if I wouldn't have added this, and it's even worse if I quote others too.

You can change the topic of a thread using the following procedure:
~
I've never looked that far in that menu, but this is a great trick to know! Note that you can also lose the self-moderated status by moving your topic to a board that doesn't allow it, and you can circumvent the 24h delay on deleting posts by temporarily moving it to another board too.

But if I am replying to a reply, I will probably use that post in mine.  No sense changing the title to the OP.
I'm quoting you, but this post has PrimeNumber7's title. I'm now paying attention to it, but normally I don't.
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Advantages:
  • OPs or the other posters are able to modify post titles to mark changes of projects (developmental upgrades, future plans, ie.), campaigns (Open, CFNP, Full, ie.), etc.

I feel it would be more effective if it only applies to the OP, not like at post #239 since people tend to look past those, or rather the post body instead.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
All I am requesting is that replies automatically mirror the subject heading in the original post, which may then be edited if so desired.

If I am replying to the original post, fine. 

But if I am replying to a reply, I will probably use that post in mine.  No sense changing the title to the OP.

I am requesting the post title continues to mirror the title of the post I am replying to,
legendary
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There are two opposite sides of the allowable option to modify post title inside threads:

Advantages:
  • OPs or the other posters are able to modify post titles to mark changes of projects (developmental upgrades, future plans, ie.), campaigns (Open, CFNP, Full, ie.), etc.

Disadvantages:
  • There are many different post titles inside one thread, from OPs, or from the the other posters, that might mislead new guests.
  • It will probably cause uncontrolled trollings, ie. that is what TECSHARE asked for changes.

It seems like a lot of people don't bother reading before posting. Nothing I am suggesting would prevent people from modifying subject headings anyway. All I am requesting is that replies automatically mirror the subject heading in the original post, which may then be edited if so desired.
legendary
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There are two opposite sides of the allowable option to modify post title inside threads:

Advantages:
  • OPs or the other posters are able to modify post titles to mark changes of projects (developmental upgrades, future plans, ie.), campaigns (Open, CFNP, Full, ie.), etc.

Disadvantages:
  • There are many different post titles inside one thread, from OPs, or from the the other posters, that might mislead new guests.
  • It will probably cause uncontrolled trollings, ie. that is what TECSHARE asked for changes.
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You can change the topic of a thread using the following procedure:
Click on "move topic"
Check "Change the topic's subject."
Check "Change every message's subject."
Uncheck "Post a redirection topic."
Click "Move Topic"
move the topic back to the original sub.

The above procedure will change the title of every post in your thread to what you set.
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