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legendary
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We should really start lining all the dead bodies in the town square and let everyone take a sample and watch through a microscope (brought from home, lol) to see the viruses by themselves.

Wouldn't work. "They" would put out actors and/or random dead bodies and would fake the whole thing.

Conspiratards can deny anything.
legendary
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Drinking hot water is not a cure, but it increases body temperature, and that helps the immune system to kill off the viruses.

Yeah....
So drinking 1l liter of hot water (let's assume coffee serving temperature) will increase the temperature of a human body with a mass of 75 kilos by?
You realize that as soon as you try to heat yourself over the normal temperature your body will do everything possible to cool off by sweating, right?

If you watch the video interviews with supposedly healthy survivors of a severe virus infection, they all aseem to say they were up to date with their 'flu shots ( there must be a reason for calling them shots), they took Tylenol and antibiotics, and to my mind, that explains why they didn't recover as quickly as health conscious people.

SARS-CoV-2 is not the same as the influenza virus so of course, it will not protect you, just as HPV will not protect you from HIV (look...they have two letters in common!!!!!). And antibiotics are not designed to fight viruses...

What annoys me most is hearing the number of death that has occur because of covid 19 pandemic. In my country (Nigeria) they haven't shown us people that have contacted it or die from it. But each day they keep giving us update about the figures of contacted patients and the money they needed to combat it.

Probably you haven't seen a nuke in all your life, so there are no nuclear weapons and you shouldn't be afraid of them.
Have you seen somebody that died from the bubonic plague? It's all a hoax!!!

We should really start lining all the dead bodies in the town square and let everyone take a sample and watch through a microscope (brought from home, lol) to see the viruses by themselves.
legendary
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The use of leeches and the bleeding of patient are two completely different concepts as I am sure you are aware.

As I pointed out, it is obviously not possible to transfer a physical virus over the telephone, but it seems that the mass of radio frequency waves in the atmosphere seem to disrupt the immune system.

Drinking hot water is not a cure, but it increases body temperature, and that helps the immune system to kill off the viruses.

It seems that the only people who are dying from the virus are those with compromised immune systems, and the stats are being suppressed about this. If you watch the video interviews with supposedly healthy survivors of a severe virus infection, they all aseem to say they were up to date with their 'flu shots ( there must be a reason for calling them shots), they took Tylenol and antibiotics, and to my mind, that explains why they didn't recover as quickly as health conscious people.

There has to be a reason for the US being the unhealthiest of all the developed nations, despite spending the most on so-called health care.
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What annoys me most is hearing the number of death that has occur because of covid 19 pandemic. In my country (Nigeria) they haven't shown us people that have contacted it or die from it. But each day they keep giving us update about the figures of contacted patients and the money they needed to combat it. It's very pathetic and tiring hearing the broadcast on television
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I don't really know why most people derived joy or happiness hurting other people. Conscience is not regarded. I will suggest that those topics or threads they have created should be taken off the forum in other not to endanger more lives to panic over them. This fake news alone do cause death when it supposed not to be so.
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I don't think we should really trust them, however I hope you can still help them understand why you find it false and dangerous. You've said its dangerous, so you should make them understand why it is not really true so others won't believe it too. Give them facts, research and valid arguments. I think you can also feel it if the account was a troll or just a person who always believes such things. So always choose to reply to those posts that you believe are just not well informed. Somehow connected to what @welsh said:


Its the same here. Some people will trust what people say, and some won't. We aren't going to start censoring people for having their own views, and opinions about something. Can you trust them? Probably not, although even if it was from a perceived trustworthy user of the forum, just because you trust them with exchanging money does not mean you can trust their opinions, and views.

The great thing about lack of censorship is you can call them out for their bullshit without any issues from a moderation point of view, and trust point of view.

This is what I hate about some humans too. Their views and opinions are always dependent on a certain person they idolized. We've always seen this through fanatics of a certain politician. They will always believe what the politician say, even if it is really on the wrong side. It feels like those fanatics already forget what it really feels to have their own opinion.

This is also why "influencers" in the internet should be careful in spreading news too, because they have millions of subscribers who would've believe everything that they will say.
legendary
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You've distorted that a bit.
Naaa I don't think so. Your reply is a confirmation of your "unusual/unproven" theories.
I can't believe you're serious speaking with such claims.
Probably are you trying to be funny/trolling  Cry but we are talking about a disease and this is not funny after all...

One of the factors leading to severity from the CV infection was reported in the Lancet, and it is recent 'flu vaccination.
Where is this paper? Can you post here please? Are you sure that they made this claim or it's like your interpretation?
(FLU and Covid19 are completely two different disease/infection. I don't want annoy other readers with such explanations and we are a bit off topic...)

The hot water logic stems from the fact that viruses die at slightly elevated temperatures, and this is why the body generates fevers - they are part of the natural recovery mechanism.
Well I can confirm this is not definitely a cure, I hope that you have realized that COVID19 is also at pulmonary level.... other tissues ... I can't continue same reasoning see before. (Let's suppose this was the miracle cure, how did you use hot waters for kidneys or brain tissue?)

A couple of centuries ago bleeding was the recommended practice for curing many ailments. We don't seem to have moved on from that when we insist on blood thinning via drugs.
So are you comparing leech therapy with anticoagulant therapies  Roll Eyes are you serious? really?



it is just simple observation.
Correlations doesn't imply causations... and there is no way 5G can be used to share a VIRUS!!!
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this is an interesting discussion..  I think the information spread (about COVID-19) has begun to go astray.  every day (not just in this forum) the latest news about COVID-19 always appears which is probably the result of the writer's own mind and not based on scientific research.  people who can't filter out the right news will only think the same as the false news writer, to be honest this is dangerous.  I think we should prevent this by giving a warning so the members here don't create a "false thread" about COVID-19..
legendary
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Hmm, let's check this:
  • 5g affects the respiratory tract
  • black people are inferior from a virus ressitance point of view but this racist truth is suppressed
  • the gubbermint want to prevent people from sunbathing
  • the gubbermint is planning on selling solar pills
  • stopping vaccinations would stop the death rate
  • drinking hot water is better tahn vaccination
  • the virus is just a diversion so they reset the debt of their economies
  • tylenol is to blame for it

Not bad, not bad, you're quite the challenger for the people OP mentioned.




the bold type is the most likely one to be true. (I could give it at least a possible chance)

Frankly I find it hard to believe this many countries are cooperating in shut down's. World wide oil is just not being used very much at all.
legendary
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You've distorted that a bit.

One of the factors leading to severity from the CV infection was reported in the Lancet, and it is recent 'flu vaccination.
The body of evidence from sources other than Big Pharma reports seems to suggest that the damaging side effects from Tylenol are permanent, and it has little benefit.
The hot water logic stems from the fact that viruses die at slightly elevated temperatures, and this is why the body generates fevers - they are part of the natural recovery mechanism.
Infecting someone with an extra disease when the body is fighting an existing one, doesn't seem to be a very intelligent plan to me.
A couple of centuries ago bleeding was the recommended practice for curing many ailments. We don't seem to have moved on from that when we insist on blood thinning via drugs. Maybe they think that social distancing in the blood stream will slow down the virus.
5G seems to be affecting people living in close proximity to the masts. It is not scientific calculations with lots of integration signs, it is just simple observation.
legendary
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Hmm, let's check this:
  • 5g affects the respiratory tract
  • black people are inferior from a virus ressitance point of view but this racist truth is suppressed
  • the gubbermint want to prevent people from sunbathing
  • the gubbermint is planning on selling solar pills
  • stopping vaccinations would stop the death rate
  • drinking hot water is better tahn vaccination
  • the virus is just a diversion so they reset the debt of their economies
  • tylenol is to blame for it

Not bad, not bad, you're quite the challenger for the people OP mentioned.


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I have noticed that there are some people who continuously and arbitrarily disseminate false information about COVID19 here on Forum.

Like posting a Ponzi/Bitcoin Doubler, I think that they can harms other people, since these discussions are about health... and not just "opinions" like "Pepsi is better Then Coke".
Plus they haven't any basic culture on these argumentation and are just copy/pasting theories without a minimum criteria.

I'm talking about the worst of the worst,  posted on forum without any evidence/logic ... just a few examples....
-COVID19 has pieces of HIV
-5G that spread the virus
-which was created in the USA and then released in China
-ops now has been created in china and then spread to USA
-World Health Organization wants to kidnap people
-"THEY" are going to put the Microchips
-follow "non-scientific/unofficial" health suggestion made by fake doctors
a long long list of crappy arguments....

I wonder, can we trust these people who continually spread false and dangerous news by rejecting any logical explanation?

What do you think?
Those are all speculation as they don't have strong evidence to their claim and those people who spread the news can't be considered as trusted not only if they can provide a solid evidence. All the decision will always depend to the reader whether he/she will believe to the news or not.

Every country has the freedom to express their thoughts especially that all the country are experiencing to this virus therefore it is only normal that the affected countries will try to figured out whom to blame to this pandemic and rumors or invalidated information will surely to rise.
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Its all just discussions about COVID and what they have found out in some theories on youtube. Those people who spread false info about it doesn't realize its false meaning they belive its true. Just as how media announced it to the public. The bigger problem is the media and youtube videos that tell different things about it but there is the freedom to do it.  Covid is dangerous and I guess that's the bottom line they can all agree.
sr. member
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When you say people are spreading false information and you are asking if you are to trust them. Trust for what? And if you trust them, then you join them. Anyone who is not sure of any new should be careful of careless dissemination. Moreso, you are entitled to COVID news yourself. Though even some direct news are doctored, like the number of death cases are usually not accurate but you have to speak on quote not as if you were there always.
legendary
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Can you trust me?

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Location       Confirmed  Cases per 1M people    Recovered            Deaths 
Worldwide     2,971,669            382.17          865,733            206,544
Japan            13,441             106.72        2,536                 372
New York        282,143           14,467.67        —                   16,599


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In Japan, they don't even have a lock-down. Hello!?

well numbers are so fucking all over the place that once again conspiracy nuts have a field day.

You need to look beyond all the numbers and ask who loses the most money on this?

In fact even though Norway Russia USA and Venezuela lose a ton of money on oil (key)

their losses are very small compared to opec countries like Saudi Arabia.

So why is the world locking down people and thus not needing or buying oil?

Well it really hurts Saudi Arabia in the pocket big time.


So even though other oil countries take a hit Saudi Arabia is getting hit really hard in the pocket.

So why do countries with not a lot of cover-19 problems agree to do this?

This is the real question.


reporting is so far apart that conspiracy people will not give this a rest.

legendary
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Can you trust me?

Japan cannot legally enforce hard lockdowns... and their population has already implemented some measures to avoid the spreading of disease.
I don't want waste time explaining you such things here because it's totally off topic.
Make your own research.

100% of people who die have blood in their bodies. Therefore having blood increases the risk of death. There seems to have been a similar consideration with HIV, and the same logic seems to be applied to the current Corona virus.

I am waiting a reply Roll Eyes about your claim about 5g and respiratory disease Huh
Meanwhile, since you like funny off topic argumentation you can make a search about another big issue! WATER!
(Did you think your stomach is stronger than iron?)
https://youtu.be/rDWa4A6NO74



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Code:
Location       Confirmed  Cases per 1M people    Recovered            Deaths 
Worldwide     2,971,669            382.17          865,733            206,544
Japan            13,441             106.72        2,536                 372
New York        282,143           14,467.67        —                   16,599


Source

In Japan, they don't even have a lock-down. Hello!?
legendary
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100% of people who die have blood in their bodies. Therefore having blood increases the risk of death. There seems to have been a similar consideration with HIV, and the same logic seems to be applied to the current Corona virus.
Wait what, I have blood too in my body, am i gonna die? Cry


Every time I discover new awesome theories should we start mass bloodletting sessions or wait the approval of Dr Trump Tongue
legendary
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100% of people who die have blood in their bodies. Therefore having blood increases the risk of death. There seems to have been a similar consideration with HIV, and the same logic seems to be applied to the current Corona virus.
legendary
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1135/1000000 = 0.1135% death rate

or 99.8865% are surviving it.


A small note.

No tests = no virus.
New York has 8.4 million people.

According to https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/ only 890k tests have been done.

Be aware test ≠ people tested, a man can be tested even 4 times to see if he is still positive.


I'm in Italy where the death % is over 13% but this number is not the real one since reliable organizations are saying that we have milions of people infected with the virus but they are symptomless.
If every people will be tested our death% will be probably 2-3% like other countries.

A better situation on the % of death will be discovered in May here in Italy and later probably around the world, they are starting 4 milions of tests on the blood of people to see if they/we have the antibodies and if we have passed the Covid19.

Keep also in mind some countries (AFAIK) don't count on the death count people who died with a heart attack with the COVID19 as a COVID19 death, here in Italy they count everyone with the Virus on the body as COVID-19 Death.


TLDR, the % of death found on paper is not the real one since they test only people with symptoms even multiple times, the real % of death is way lower cause a lot of people are symptomless and not tested.



yep this is why new york state with 19 million people has the worst death rate.

not italy.

the numbers i am using are deaths per million people.

so new york state is 21000 deaths/ 19 million

that is 1143 per million. no one is worse per million.


italy is 441 dead per million or around 26000 dead.

this is not the infected amount of people it is the dead amount per million. of all  italy’s population. i think 60-63 million.

the point is that the worst rate listed per million is new york state.

and i simply used  the worst rate ( new york state ) and projected it to the entire world.

the to get the numbers in my post.

I know the issue for conspiracy theory is why are all the countries agreeing to shut the world down.

who gets fucked the most?

my theory won’t  be revealed here but it has nothing to do with flat earth 🌍 or 5g or aliens 👽.

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