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Quote from: Moloch on March 28, 2016, 11:07:18 PM

No, I have never lived in a socialist country, but I have visited a few of them... I have also done a fair bit of research on socialism...

Have you visited a socialist country, or done even the slightest bit of research into socialist policies?
Or, are you just saying it's evil because that's what you were told in elementary school?

Not evil of course. It's just not working. As I've (partly) grown up in a socialist country I can assure you that was an economic crash course from the beginning, and not because of the bad implementation but because of the faulty principles.

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Quote from: Spendulus on March 28, 2016, 01:02:09 PM

Quote from: Moloch on March 26, 2016, 11:45:41 AM

Fairly sure Moses received a similar sign from God... just saying...

Crowd goes wild after small bird lands on Bernie Sanders' podium
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/26/watch-small-bird-lands-bernie-sanders-podium/82289730/

Bernie: This little bird doesn't know it...
(bird flies onto Bernie's Podium sign, "A future to believe in", and looks Bernie right in the eyes)
Bernie: I think there may be some symbolism here
Bernie: I know it may not look like it, but that bird is really a dove asking us for world peace. No more wars

Ah, the bird trick.

You've been conned there, buddy.

Bernie does nothing but fight for the underdog... the middle-class and poverty stricken...

He is basically Jesus, and you fools treat him exactly like the Jews treated Jesus... When is the crucifixion?

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Quote from: chanchel on March 28, 2016, 03:25:47 PM

Quote from: Moloch on March 27, 2016, 05:45:42 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 27, 2016, 05:03:59 PM

Free Dope would pick up some votes.

Contrary to establishment propaganda, Bernie isn't giving out anything for free... Although, he will likely legalize weed

He's only ~200 delegates behind Hillary... California alone is worth 475... say hello to President Bernie!

stop saying he hasn't offered anything for free.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

Here's your free stuff. When will you wackos figure out that nothing is free. Free tuition!!! Yay, right?!?!?! More social security, yay, right?!?!?!? Extended healthcare coverage, yay, right?!?!?!
Anyway, you get the point. Bernie will tax the crap out of everyone, and in so doing will kill job after job after job. Here is what happens:

Economic Impact
According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, Senator Bernie Sanders’s tax plan would reduce the economy’s size by 9.5 percent in the long run. The plan would lead to 4.3 percent lower wages, an 18.6 percent smaller capital stock, and 6.0 million fewer full-time equivalent jobs. The smaller economy results from higher marginal tax rates on capital and labor income.
Table 2.
Economic Impact of Senator Sanders’s Tax Reform Proposals
GDP -9.5%
Capital Investment -18.6%
Wage Rate -4.3%
Full-time Equivalent Jobs (in thousands) -5,973

Stop saying he hasn't offered anything for free. He wants to extend the welfare state, thats "free food, utilities, etc." Moloch have you ever lived in a socialist country?? Socialism will destroy all innovation in the United States. It will destroy the US.

Whose ass did you pull those numbers out of? How could you possibly know how taxes affect GDP, investment rate, etc? 6 million fewer jobs?!? How could you know any of that?

What "tax plan" are you even talking about? Bernie has not released any "tax plan"... are you talking about his single-payer insurance plan that he released 2 months ago? Do you even know what you are talking about?

No, I have never lived in a socialist country, but I have visited a few of them... I have also done a fair bit of research on socialism...

Have you visited a socialist country, or done even the slightest bit of research into socialist policies?
Or, are you just saying it's evil because that's what you were told in elementary school?

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Quote from: chanchel on March 28, 2016, 03:25:47 PM

Quote from: Moloch on March 27, 2016, 05:45:42 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 27, 2016, 05:03:59 PM

Free Dope would pick up some votes.

Contrary to establishment propaganda, Bernie isn't giving out anything for free... Although, he will likely legalize weed

He's only ~200 delegates behind Hillary... California alone is worth 475... say hello to President Bernie!

Economic Impact of Senator Sanders’s Tax Reform Proposals
GDP -9.5%
Capital Investment -18.6%
Wage Rate -4.3%
Full-time Equivalent Jobs (in thousands) -5,973

Actually it's much worse than that, because the entire economy is in limp along zombie mode. The FED has cut the interest rates down to near zero to enable (1) massive federal spending, as then the governmnet pays very little on debt (2) companies to have incentives to spend

Knock the GDP by -9.5% and everything would collapse, quite likely the US would experienace a hyperinflation.

Then these morons could find out what they could get for free with their worthless dollars.

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Quote from: Moloch on March 27, 2016, 05:45:42 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 27, 2016, 05:03:59 PM

Free Dope would pick up some votes.

Contrary to establishment propaganda, Bernie isn't giving out anything for free... Although, he will likely legalize weed

He's only ~200 delegates behind Hillary... California alone is worth 475... say hello to President Bernie!

stop saying he hasn't offered anything for free.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

Here's your free stuff. When will you wackos figure out that nothing is free. Free tuition!!! Yay, right?!?!?! More social security, yay, right?!?!?!? Extended healthcare coverage, yay, right?!?!?!
Anyway, you get the point. Bernie will tax the crap out of everyone, and in so doing will kill job after job after job. Here is what happens:

Economic Impact
According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, Senator Bernie Sanders’s tax plan would reduce the economy’s size by 9.5 percent in the long run. The plan would lead to 4.3 percent lower wages, an 18.6 percent smaller capital stock, and 6.0 million fewer full-time equivalent jobs. The smaller economy results from higher marginal tax rates on capital and labor income.
Table 2.
Economic Impact of Senator Sanders’s Tax Reform Proposals
GDP -9.5%
Capital Investment -18.6%
Wage Rate -4.3%
Full-time Equivalent Jobs (in thousands) -5,973

Stop saying he hasn't offered anything for free. He wants to extend the welfare state, thats "free food, utilities, etc." Moloch have you ever lived in a socialist country?? Socialism will destroy all innovation in the United States. It will destroy the US.

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Quote from: Moloch on March 26, 2016, 11:45:41 AM

Fairly sure Moses received a similar sign from God... just saying...

Crowd goes wild after small bird lands on Bernie Sanders' podium
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/26/watch-small-bird-lands-bernie-sanders-podium/82289730/

Bernie: This little bird doesn't know it...
(bird flies onto Bernie's Podium sign, "A future to believe in", and looks Bernie right in the eyes)
Bernie: I think there may be some symbolism here
Bernie: I know it may not look like it, but that bird is really a dove asking us for world peace. No more wars

Ah, the bird trick.

You've been conned there, buddy.

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Quote from: JavaLove on March 26, 2016, 01:56:34 PM

Quote from: aardvark15 on March 24, 2016, 06:22:31 PM

I liked their interview of Bernie Sanders. They are the only ones that take him seriously. Although Bernie is not a perfect candidate, he is the only candidate that is trying to get money out of politics and I agree with him on that.

He wants to offer free tuition to "minorities" (in other words, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, which doesn't work!), he wants to stop business competition and socialize everything, including health care.

He wants state supported colleges free for anyone that gets accepted to college. That's people of all races and he isn't choosing who gets accepted to college. He wants to pay for it with taxes on the wealthy. Mitt Romney is wealthy and pays less than 15% in taxes. Someone needs to make people like him pay their fair share like the middle class already does.

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Quote from: Spendulus on March 27, 2016, 05:03:59 PM

Free Dope would pick up some votes.

Contrary to establishment propaganda, Bernie isn't giving out anything for free... Although, he will likely legalize weed

He's only ~200 delegates behind Hillary... California alone is worth 475... say hello to President Bernie!

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Quote from: Zeke2345 on March 27, 2016, 04:37:16 PM

Quote from: Moloch on March 26, 2016, 08:02:34 PM

That in its self is a game changer,to bad this man is not going to be President.
The fact the prison monoply continues is disgusting and another blemish on democracy.

Free Dope would pick up some votes.

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Quote from: Moloch on March 26, 2016, 08:02:34 PM

That in its self is a game changer,to bad this man is not going to be President.
The fact the prison monoply continues is disgusting and another blemish on democracy.

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Washington, Hawaii & Alaska definitively felt the burn yesterday!

But I think its the establishment that feels it the hardest Wink

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Quote from: JavaLove on March 26, 2016, 01:56:34 PM

And let's not forget about this DISGRACE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BnbwUT7lBg

He's not fit to be president.

What did you want him to do to the protestors? Have cops slam them to the ground and arrest everyone like Trump does?

You can tell a lot about a man by the way he treats protestors while he's giving a speech...

Bernie is the most qualified to be president... no contest there

Quote from: JavaLove on March 26, 2016, 01:56:34 PM

And he has about a 0% chance at winning, anyways.

I'd say Bernie has a good 40% chance to win the democratic nomination, and 90% chance to beat Trump if the election is Bernie vs Trump

Both parties face similar issues of what will happen if they throw the nomination to their personal choice...

The superdelegates could hand the nomination to Hillary (overruling the popular vote)

It's also looking like Trump isn't going to get the required 1237 delegates, so the republican party will go to "brokered convention", where it's a brand-new ballgame

Anything could happen... stay tuned!

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Quote from: aardvark15 on March 24, 2016, 06:22:31 PM

I liked their interview of Bernie Sanders. They are the only ones that take him seriously. Although Bernie is not a perfect candidate, he is the only candidate that is trying to get money out of politics and I agree with him on that.

They are the only ones who take him seriously, and that makes them insane!

First off, they're blind to the fact that Hillary was already chosen as the Democratic nominee like years ago.

Secondly, they're totally blind to the fact that Trump has a 97 - 99% at winning the election (look it up).

Thirdly, why take someone like Bernie seriously?!? You can't! He wants to offer free tuition to "minorities" (in other words, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, which doesn't work!), he wants to stop business competition and socialize everything, including health care.

And let's not forget about this DISGRACE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BnbwUT7lBg

He's not fit to be president. And he has about a 0% chance at winning, anyways.

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Fairly sure Moses received a similar sign from God... just saying...

Crowd goes wild after small bird lands on Bernie Sanders' podium
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/26/watch-small-bird-lands-bernie-sanders-podium/82289730/

Bernie: This little bird doesn't know it...
(bird flies onto Bernie's Podium sign, "A future to believe in", and looks Bernie right in the eyes)
Bernie: I think there may be some symbolism here
Bernie: I know it may not look like it, but that bird is really a dove asking us for world peace. No more wars

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Quote from: Moloch on March 24, 2016, 11:20:41 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on March 24, 2016, 10:42:04 AM

I used to watch them fairly regularly. Their shtick is to play anti-establishment to pick up uninformed mouth-breathers who are incapable of independent critical analysis, but when the chips are down they are pro-establishment. 100%

Who do you mean by "they"?

You certainly couldn't say that about Jimmy... (or most/all of them)

It's true that Dore seems to hold on to principle a little longer than the rest. He also does not seem quite as petrified about holding non-consensus opinion as most of the others.

I have to say that Dore gives that right-winger dude a run for his money at being the most un-funny comedian ever. Um...Dennis Miller.

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I liked their interview of Bernie Sanders. They are the only ones that take him seriously. Although Bernie is not a perfect candidate, he is the only candidate that is trying to get money out of politics and I agree with him on that.

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Quote from: tvbcof on March 24, 2016, 10:42:04 AM

Quote from: Moloch on March 24, 2016, 10:14:36 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on March 24, 2016, 01:34:09 AM

Quote from: Moloch on March 23, 2016, 10:53:24 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 23, 2016, 10:34:53 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on March 23, 2016, 09:04:27 PM

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OTOH, it is possible that TYT could be resigned to Hillary and turn from being at least thoughtfully critical on real problems to being full on cheerleaders. Just like that did with Obamacare. These people are as phony as they come. And I used to pay some attention to them a number of years ago. Silly me.

I am going to guess here that TYT translates to "the young turks," paid propaganda operatives.

Anything else to be said?

Do you really think independent media pushes more "paid propaganda" than establishment media?

Not sure about TYT. It is possible to be a lap-dog for the establishment just because one is brainwashed. Probably some combination of this applies here.

You think TYT is pro-establishment? Have you seen TYT?!? Are you mentally handicapped?

I used to watch them fairly regularly. Their shtick is to play anti-establishment to pick up uninformed mouth-breathers who are incapable of independent critical analysis, but when the chips are down they are pro-establishment. 100%

Yes that is accurate. 100%. I don't really see how anyone would think otherwise. Maybe if say Republicans were in power then this sleezeballs could claim they were "anti-establishment."

They certainly do not have any libertarian bent, nothing but straightline progressive crap.

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Quote from: tvbcof on March 24, 2016, 10:42:04 AM

Quote from: Moloch on March 24, 2016, 10:14:36 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on March 24, 2016, 01:34:09 AM

Quote from: Moloch on March 23, 2016, 10:53:24 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 23, 2016, 10:34:53 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on March 23, 2016, 09:04:27 PM

...
OTOH, it is possible that TYT could be resigned to Hillary and turn from being at least thoughtfully critical on real problems to being full on cheerleaders. Just like that did with Obamacare. These people are as phony as they come. And I used to pay some attention to them a number of years ago. Silly me.

I am going to guess here that TYT translates to "the young turks," paid propaganda operatives.

Anything else to be said?

Do you really think independent media pushes more "paid propaganda" than establishment media?

Not sure about TYT. It is possible to be a lap-dog for the establishment just because one is brainwashed. Probably some combination of this applies here.

You think TYT is pro-establishment? Have you seen TYT?!? Are you mentally handicapped?

I used to watch them fairly regularly. Their shtick is to play anti-establishment to pick up uninformed mouth-breathers who are incapable of independent critical analysis, but when the chips are down they are pro-establishment. 100%

Who do you mean by "they"?

You certainly couldn't say that about Jimmy... (or most/all of them)

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