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For this two class of gamblers that you have mentioned, that's between those that see gambling as fun activity and those that see gambling as an opportunity to make a living, they can not ignore to cease any winning opportunity they see, even if it means cheating the casino to win. The only gambler that will ignore the cheating opportunity is those gambler that has dignity and have an exceptional good character and they want to do the right thing at all time even if they are losing.
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Gambling for fun and entertainment and not for money making is a warning from experienced gamblers that if someone is gambling and looking for money through it, that the person have high probability to lose huge amount of money. It is a warning that you should not use more than the amount of money that you can afford to lose to gamble. Do not think it is a straightforward sentence, it is more like an idiom.
I agree with your explanation, that word people use in gambling that "it is for fun" mean that one can not take gambling as a work hence your chances of loss is more always often than win. This implies that you are gambling for money that you are not sure of getting, but just trying to get it, and you may keep trying and trying yet no possibility so it indirectly becomes a fun which is true.

Well the thing is that most people don't see gambling as something fun, they see it as the only opportunity to place bets to multiply their money to the Maximum, and that vision is not bad, you just have to be a little more Realistic , things in casinos are not as easy as people think, there is much more, however whenever we Emphasize how to determine the best way to play it ends up accepting that the highest probability of a person winning in a casino is proportional to their luck, however people try it because many like to feel that adrenaline, that adrenaline and if they are Going to win money then much more.

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So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability

I believe most of the gambler will be tempted to use this method to get profit as long as this method is 100% guaranteed that you will not be caught. The problem on cheating against the casino especially if you are KYC was you might get banned personally including your IP on the casino and to other casino which they are connected.

There’s a lot of potential repercussions involved once you caught cheating that will make you unable to do online gambling normally. But if there will be a hypothetical method then many gamblers will surely try this for the profit.
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Honestly it is easy for us to say that we wouldn't do it or would report it, but would you really let it pass?
If I am going to be honest here I would surely take the opportunity to get something from it, I wouldn't be hypocrite and claims that I wouldn't take advantages of it because if opportunity arise I am sure there would be a lot of people who would also do it, and surely some of those who claims that they would report or wouldn't use the cheat would envy those who are online at the time and gain something from it
I think there are truly people who are kind and honest, and they will be consistent at it no matter what. So yeah, they will let it pass. Sure they can earn huge and easy money in here but that won't let them sleep at night. For them, it doesn't matter even if they only have a small amount but what important is the peace of mind, and sticking to their principles as a good person. As for you and others, go on.

Those people that I said earlier can sometimes won't report you because they don't want to get in trouble and they will only let the authorities do their thing. They also believe on the bad karma and this is the ones that will punish the bad people.
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I will firstly consider the possibility of being caught and what could be the possible penalty if am caught where if it's what I can handle I will gladly cheat to secure the winning and count it as my lucky day, probably I have lost some other time and can't afford to miss such opportunity of maximizing the feeling that comes with winning, gambling is a game and anything game is pron to cheating. Winning which ever way it happens it is still going to be called winning and it boost confidence and make the game more fun. Me I will personally cheat I know so other user might say the otherwise but however any can do whatever they like.
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This can also be called hypocrisy, indeed I admit that even though I gamble for fun, I also feel very happy if I end up winning gambling despite my enjoyment, but that doesn't mean I'm not happy if I lose, I can also accept it, but it's different if I win. which I feel is twice as happy, if I am offered the opportunity to cheat at gambling, I will probably accept it because all this time we have also been cheated by bookies, most of which are arranged by the bookies so that we experience losses more often than we win and The house's chances are greater than the user's, therefore we will not be able to beat the gambling house.

Maybe with the opportunity to cheat we can win at gambling and it won't affect the gambling house even if we cheat, I'm not a hypocrite when that opportunity can be profitable maybe I will take it and consider it as fun and a bonus that I get through gambling and that will also make we have fun and will feel more pleasure than if we only feel ordinary pleasure because we lose, it's better to feel extraordinary pleasure because we win Grin
Absolutely you have also made a point to be considered otherwise, Indeed the bookies can not even do sincere enough to say that they have not been cheating on gambling by the programming nature in their gaming sites.

That is why most at times, when a gambling site is newly launched, they comes with a marketing strategies of easy winning in their platforms then, once they have gained massive dominants, they began to reprogram their system trickishly.

That is absolutely cheating on their side. They at times assumes when one wins and when one looses but if you ask me @klidex, I would say it is not enough reason for a gambler who is gaming for fun to cheat. You just have to think otherwise that the gambling and casino sites are at more legal advantage than you on such cheating terrains so staying clean and enjoy your game and if winning meets you luckily somedays then you just accept it on anyway.
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A person who is in a hurry to win gambling will lose more. At some point you can take out a loan or use more money in some other way.

Well, I wouldn't say that but rather will say that any gambler that has it in mind that they are just there to chase for profits amounting to big wins or those that their 100% reason for being at the casino is to multiply their income, they can only get disappointed and depressed when they have lost more than they can handle. For someone who is just gambling with a neutral motive, they will not bother too much about losses, and they will not chase losses like those whose idea is just to make profit by any means that they can. Those gamblers with neutral motive of gambling for fun and a slim expectation of profit
will not take loan to gamble because they will hardly get addicted.

I have always said that no one forbids winning in gambling; even those people who are gambling for fun are also interested in winning, but they don't get so radical like the true gambler, who will do anything to win.
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Fun my ass! Does anyone risk without profit motives?  The basic instinct is hunting. Everyone is an addict; some wear nicer masks. "Desperation" and "contentment" are merely avarice disguised. The thrill of winning is what we seek. We only differ in our willingness to bet time, money, or souls. Cheating? Another tool in the arsenal. Not using it means not playing to win. In life's casino, you're a tourist delighted to lose your pocket change and go home. Real players, who want success, will do anything. The goal is victory, not fun.
With the huge number of people involved in gambling, I think there will be that bettor who are like that, who don't mind the profits. Most of the times they are rich person already, so money is not their concern anymore but it is on how to use them.

Between desperation and contentment, I think it was contentment is the ones who are being disguised by many bettors because they will always find their selves in the casino later on. In gambling, it requires time and money but soul? I think it's too serious but maybe the ones who are doing this are those who are too deep already in the said activity. The same thing goes to those who cheat.
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Gambling is fun and all but the temptation to cheat the system is too big and the reward is just too big to ignore, maybe if I know that I'm going to get away with it then probably I'd go for it but given that most casinos have the skills to analyze anomalies, probably a better thing to not do it no matter, most casinos are like the tax bureau, they will not let go of their own money unless needed and they will hunt the people that have stolen from them or tried to cheat them, either they fail catching or they lose all the resources to catch you, my point is that they won't stop.
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Most of the people think gambling is for fun for the gambling owner is a business that generates profit for the lucky guy it is a Jackpot filled with bunch of money for the loser is wasting a time haha this is my opinion.

Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability and Can you ignore/resist cheating to secure a winning bet?
My real question here is how we do cheating in gambling I mean is it possible if so don't you think all people are gonna rich soon and gamble is going become unprofitable business
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Gambling for fun and entertainment and not for money making is a warning from experienced gamblers that if someone is gambling and looking for money through it, that the person have high probability to lose huge amount of money. It is a warning that you should not use more than the amount of money that you can afford to lose to gamble. Do not think it is a straightforward sentence, it is more like an idiom.
I agree with your explanation, that word people use in gambling that "it is for fun" mean that one can not take gambling as a work hence your chances of loss is more always often than win. This implies that you are gambling for money that you are not sure of getting, but just trying to get it, and you may keep trying and trying yet no possibility so it indirectly becomes a fun which is true.
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So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?


The question is can you actually cheat a casino? Or what kind of cheating do you mean? Casinos have a way to track if a scammer is trying to break into their system and such customer will be punished afterall either by refusing to release their fund for violation and or by banning them from the account. So I don't see cheating a casino as what is easy to do or to cheat on your game that you are betting on. I don't see cheating in casino betting because if you try to break the security, you will be caught .
Well there is arbitrage betting, although I don't know how this is actually done but I believe the casino themselves don't like this type of betting as they class it as cheating and even ban accounts that are tied to this method of betting. I have heard from many people that the arbitrage betting is very lucrative but it's very hard to start up as it requires huge amount of funds to do it but all the same the results to be gotten from it is very certain.
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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.
Let's put gambling aside. If you, as an investor, are given the opportunity to cheat on a particular project to have your way, maybe you will be able to see or grab some more shares than you paid for, and in return, you will be paid a much higher profit than what could have been your profit based on your early investment. What will you do? 
 
This question is not just to be channelled into gambling alone; it's a matter of self-discipline, what you stand for, and what you could do.
 
A lot of us here might say that we won't take such a step but dip down; if we are found in that position, we will do just the opposite. Considering the fact that casinos and gambling companies have enough money to pay you and won't even fold down, you might hesitate in the beginning, but you might end up doing it anyway.
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Honestly it is easy for us to say that we wouldn't do it or would report it, but would you really let it pass?
If I am going to be honest here I would surely take the opportunity to get something from it, I wouldn't be hypocrite and claims that I wouldn't take advantages of it because if opportunity arise I am sure there would be a lot of people who would also do it, and surely some of those who claims that they would report or wouldn't use the cheat would envy those who are online at the time and gain something from it
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I think it depends on one's moral values more than the fact whether they gamble for fun or profits because cheating is a different matter altogether. Even if you gamble for profits and have high moral values, you wouldn't cheat and if you find a bug or something, you might inform the management to get it fixed instead of misusing it and earning money from it. Similarly, someone who gambles for fun but has no moral values wouldn't bother misusing a glitch or something to get some money.

So, according to me, it doesn't have anything to do with the intention one has for gambling and it is more like a thing of the person having a good nature and being a good human being. A person with a good heart and a good upbringing wouldn't do something like that at any cost.
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I will not cheat. I dislike individual that cheat irrespective of the area of activity. One thing for sure I cannot speak for anyone neither do the write up of individuals reveal there true intentions.

I believe every gambler have underlining intention of making money while accepting the pill that it is for fun. Every gambler risk and also expect a return from the odds of the game, so for fun I do not know or for money either, till then we know, nobody will reveal there true intention in a public space especially when it calls for something ungodly.
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Cheating never leads to anything good because karma is going to bite back really hard so I'm not sure how you can justify cheating i be good in any situation, maybe if you're held hostage or something and the condition is for you to cheat but that's it. As much as I like to hate on gambling for being such a rigged system that's designed to be taking more from you rather than giving out to you, I'd like to keep my integrity and dignity intact. I know that it might sound weird to anyone because most reactions when you can cheat and get away with it, you'd take the opportunity but think about this, why let your base instincts take over whatever's making you a human.

Plus, any cheating would easily be observed when investigated, most of the time, when you cheat, you tend to make it a thing where you get greedy and when you get greedy, you will slip up and make mistakes and those mistakes would lead you to being detected as a cheater.
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Given benefits of doubt to those gamblers who says gambling is a game of entertainment which they only gambles for fun and those who prioritize gambling to make profits, do you think those who claims gambling for funs can ignore or resist any given cheating opportunity to secure winning knowing that it could multiply their stakes in returns? Because if they can not, then absolutely they don't game for fun but for profit interests.

Then I would say all gamblers have the same goals of betting to make profit rather their volume of desires differs where there are desperate and contented gamblers

So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?

Mind you: Cheating is cheating on whichever way as long you sources your winning outside your ability

When a money is involved in a discussion, everyone will say their mind but they might do the opposite when they have the chance. Gambling is sometimes that is very difficult for everyone that's why I'm skeptical If everyone would do the same as they said. People wouldn't even tell the casino about such bug from casino because they would think they are luckiest and it's probably just another regular day in casino to win money.

However, when you are financially discipline and well behave, even if you have not tasted some amount of money before in your life, you will never be move by anything that invokes money, even though you are been offer money to cheat or do something that is illegal, you will be oblige and say no but if you are not financially discipline and you see a money that is even less than what you have saw before in your past, you wouldn't be able to resist the temptation.
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What kind of cheating do you mean?

If my friend is a professional gambler and he bet in my account, will you count it as a cheating? because the person behind my account is not me, but my friend. The casino terms always state if one person only able to own one account.

And @OP, do you know what make it interesting? some people can treat cheating as fun thing to do, so they cheat to get fun. Wink
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So if you are one of the specified fun gamblers, can you resist cheating opportunity and just rely your winning on your own ability?
It is wrong and unethical to cheat, be it in a casino or in any other platform/place; it does not matter why you gamble, even if you think you are not gambling for fun, it does not give you the right to cheat. Gambling for fun means you know you are not trying to get rich through gambling and thus you are not going to do anything crazy, it does not mean the person does not care about their winnings, they do, but they aren't going to gambling with a crazy amount of money.
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