Topic: Can you ignore/resist cheating to secure a winning bet? - page 4. (Read 497 times)

It would help if you didn't generalise your findings because you didn't conduct systematic research that can be reified and validated. The majority of gamblers indeed target money but others gamble mainly for fun.  

First cheating is a criminal behaviour. It is wrong to target to cheat a system because you have the opportunity. Your question sounds like will you steal if you can do it? Some members announce in the forum that they have casino insiders who give them leaked games. They sometimes request that members contact them. I have never contacted them because it is fraudulent and criminal.  

Cheating is not asking for help or getting games from friends or professional gamers. If I decide to collect games from people, that's not cheating. Cheating is when you want to exploit the gambling system through illegal means,  

Its situational basis but yes some people can especially if they are protecting their account not to get ban since there are certain milestone or certain ranks that they already achieve. Also if they submit their KYC on particular casino for sure they would not think about cheating.

But there are other people who create new account and find out something like that may think about taking the advantage to win. Greed for money is there so expect that there are people will try their luck to earn something from the casino they are using.

People should think twice before participating this cheating activities since this will not give them any benefits in long run.

That is very true. Cheating on the casino can be of excitements to the gambler but the casinos are always on a watchlist with their smart tool to catch up such cheaters probably going through the gamblers history.

Your approach of gaming attitude can actually call upon the attention of the casino to get your account on investigation which can lead the gambler to be penalized.
I remember a thread in the board the OP talked about his friend winning over 10X in a row, unfortunate for him the casino banned him and the went further to create another account leading to his locked of account and his money for stocked there.

Meanwhile .....I think the casino system detected some malicious interactions of the gambler using cheats which lead to his banning of accounts.

How can they cheat? typically, in most of the reputable casinos there's a little chance that a gambler can take that chance and opportunity if seen some bugs. But overall, they're not going to happen to the most of us because the casino will still find it out upon checking backlogs if a user has abused their system or not.

Yes, we're all for the profit as we gamble and that's one reason why we do it. Some will say that they're for the fun but are you going to ignore profiting? of course not. But if it's about abusing the system if you have found one, it's unethical.

I'd report it 100% without thinking. I know that winning is hard but it's about your principle when you encounter one and you just want to do the right thing.

There's no doubt to the fact that those who gamble for fun mostly engage in gambling as a form of recreational activity and would not want to do anything extra to win but the majority of gamblers would definitely take any cheating opportunity that pops their way since it'll guarantee their winning. Most of the gambling companies will do anything to see their customers lose in all their gambling engagements because that's how they survive and that's why these customers will in return use any cheating measure that'll help them win. Majority of gamblers do engage in gambling because of the financial gains and not because they're doing it for fun.

I know myself, and as much as I want to say that I would stay in the straight and narrow, the prospect of getting that guaranteed win will definitely sway me towards cheating and taking advantage of glithces or whatever it is that leads me to gain that advantage. But the thing is that to of course, make sure that the exploit remains up and running for the longest time possible, and to also ensure that the casino does not incur anymore losses from other people who may happen upon my find, I will keep the knowledge of such cheating/exploit to myself. Not even a hint will come out to the people.

I wouldn't call myself a desperate gambler, and frankly speaking you could say the same for a lot of the people here who answered they would succumb to cheating in the prospect of a guaranteed win. It's just that risk-management taught us to always choose the safest option that would yield us the most benefits, and in this situation that was what would yield us the most benefits.

Again, not saying that I'm gonna cheat on my games from now on or whatever, I'm better than that, just saying that if it does come to that point, I might end up cheating on the games.

I'm still trying to understand the meaning of cheating that you said in this post, how someone can cheat when the casino has created a certain level of system for their security so that there is no cheating. Even if yes, gradually in the end a gambler who intends to commit fraud will eventually have his account frozen. Honestly, I never thought about it to this level. So, I'm a little doubtful about the cheating you mean.

well, I'll just talk simply. So you see, gambling is nothing more than a fun pastime, but it contains a lot of risks. Before we gamble, we have to prepare funds first so we can play it. The articulation of fun things is to make us play for entertainment, that's the goal, not to get money instantly and quickly. However, because gambling presents possibilities, yes, the possibility of losing or the possibility of winning, in other words, for anything fun there will be cause and effect. because we gamble, and the consequences of our gambling. It's just that the connotation of the meaning of cause and effect is subjective, not always something that is negative or detrimental.
For example, because we gamble, we experience many losses. or vice versa, because we bet, as a result we get a win commensurate with what we bet. In essence, gambling depends on how you define it. Also, gambling will always be our discussion here, yeah because there will always be pros and cons and it will be interesting for us to discuss. as you stated for example, with your assumptions and theories in defining gambling in this thread. So, it all depends on how we understand gambling and our perspective on gambling.

Some days ago I wrote about ethical gambling. It is not every gambler that is desperate for a win. Some of us are actually guided by a moral code of conduct. I believe that if I cheat someone I would be cheated back on it is a circle of life. If I cannot win the right way and instead look for cheat code then I cannot be said to be an ethical gambler who is gambling for fun even though I desire to win.

Anyone who would easily cheat at the slightest opportunity is someone I see that do not have a source of income or livelihood. And that person is going to be a potential candidate of gambling addiction because they want to win by any means possible.

Those who gamble for fun seriously don’t care about the profits. They gamble for recreational purposes only. They don’t care about the money; hence, they really don’t care if you offer them fixed games or any means of unfair advantage to win the bet. They just gamble as their hobby and treat the real money as virtual game balance. I can’t exactly relate to how rich people will feel, but yes, cheating and making money isn’t ethically good.

Gambling for fun and wanting to make profits are not mutually exclusive. I gamble for fun and yes I want to make profit from it as well, but I do not expect to get rich from gambling and I will not set profit targets I want to make gambling, neither will I stake above my means, I will always use amounts I can afford to lose.

The difference is I watch games I stakes on and never get tense when the outcome is going against me cause I was never fully invested in the potential winnings and I did not stake a significant amount.

That being said, I will not take advantage of an opportunity to cheat the system because of my personal convictions.

- Jay -

How do you plan to cheat casino/sports betting platform? Can you find a glitch in the casino and exploit it? Do you bet on fixed matches and you are 100% sure that your bets will end up being profitable? Is that what you mean by "cheating"? Well, good luck with this.
There are stupid gamblers, who think that they could cheat the casino/bookie, but in reality, they are the ones, who got scammed(by the casino/bookie, or by someone else, who is selling them "snake oil" fake cheating methods).
All gamblers are gambling for both fun and greed. The combination of fun and greed varies upon the different people. Some are more greedy than others. I have no illusions about making big money out of gambling. That's why I say that I'm gambling mostly for fun.

It depends on the character of that individual, people that loved to cheat naturally in life or that loves to steal from others to enrich themselves, and people who are not satisfied with what they have, will like to cheat if they have the chance when gambling without thinking twice.

Upright and honest person will not cheat even if he has the access to cheat the casino, because that is not his lifestyle. I don't think that I have thought of cheating when gambling because I use it to entertain myself and I am enjoying the fun so why will I cheat. If I cheat, then it is no longer gambling but stealing, because your win wasn't t real and it was not by your luck.

Money can be blinding, it will be difficult for a person to resist such a thing.
But let's not take away that there are still more honest people in the world and they might do the right thing if ever they are facing this kind of trouble.

I will. Why? Simply because I don't want any trouble in the future. It could lead to a blacklist, a case that you have knowledge about yet but will only find out once you leave the country or sign up to another gambling site, the Account being banned, an IP ban, and more. So why do it? If there's trouble trying to sneak in, run away from it, don't try to chase the trouble because it will definitely go back to you. Not now, but maybe in the future. Karma is real.
Telling the issue might have some rewards, just do the right thing instead.

I don't want to get into trouble and it's not morally correct. No matter how confident you think you are when you cheat, there is always a chance of getting caught. Besides the fact that the frame from which you ask the question is that of someone who expects too much from gambling. I bet from time to time and with money that I can spare, that if I lose absolutely nothing happens, and therefore the amounts that I can win, although good if I make a 100x for example, are not going to change my life.

We don't have to cheat when playing gambling even if we see a way to cheat casino. Casino will knows and that can effect to our account and will close our account immediately. That can makes us lose our fun by playing gambling and we can't accept if that happens to us.

You will difficult to make a profit from gambling and you should already knows about that. Instead of gets a problem because of cheating, we should not do that and playing gambling as usual and enjoy our time. Cheating is cheating as you said and that can gives a problem to us.

If we cheat, our reason for playing gambling will different from before. We can feels that our greediness will increase because our minds will thinks that we can gets more money by cheating the casino. But we don't knows that will makes us getting ban from casino.

I think this isn't anymore a question of whether one gambles for fun or for profit. I think this is already a question of character. Whether one gambles for fun or profit doesn't mean he/she cheats in order to win.

Whichever way you treat gambling; it is immaterial as to whether you cheat or not. It doesn't automatically follow that since a gambler plays for profit he/she would resort to cheating. In the same manner that it also doesn't follow that since you only gamble for fun, you won't cheat. Cheaters cheat. Honest gamblers stay honest.

Cheating is pretty much stealing and even if the casino doesn’t notice what you did right away, they will eventually if you continue with your habit and your account will get flagged. There might be some legal problems for you too. These casino owners don’t fuck around. They invested serious money in that business and they want returns. Stealing from them is not the brightest idea. Why can’t people find a job like everyone else if they need money so much smh

I believe that we should strive for such bets that would win without fraud. Our task is to make no doubt about our winnings. Unfortunately, often a casino or (especially) bookmaker organizations question our winnings. Naturally, we carried a loss, no one doubts it. In fact, play honestly - beneficial primarily for ourselves. One of the goals of the game is also to collect high -quality game experience, which is certainly a value. After all, the quality of the user game is determined by his experience and how he systematizes him.

I don't know how you classify the cheating thought but am certain that it's definitely going to be hard to cheat a casino well the little more that I know you is the arbitrage betting which to some extent of you even look at it, it's not even you cheating the casino rather just being smart with the odd selection and besides it still requires lots of money and risk management buy yet some casino classify it as cheating and even go to the extent of freezing your account with them and all other accounts connect but I guess this is all for people who actually take gambling as something that's part of their business.

Of course, if you are really into money, you will be tempted to cheat just to secure a winning bet but if you know that you really can't do it and are afraid to be caught, you will not do it.
Some people can maintain their integrity and commitment to gambling for fun, while others may find it challenging to resist just for easy money through cheating. This could really depend on some people because some people especially those really in need and willing to cheat just to make money, it's possible.