Topic: Can you still believe aTriz words? Reopened, too many open questions - page 13. (Read 5770 times)

Money shouts, wealth whispers. Might I add, bragging about your "bitcoin riches" on an online forum is a great way to get killed

What I am saying is very relevant, you should just fuck off..  would make this reputation board more readable for starters.

as for my presence on this planet? well there are many things you would not understand as you are a stupid child, but one of the great things Is I can basque in my bitcoin riches and point out what a stupid cunt you are..

I said I'd leave that account... -.-

If you don't have anything relevant or intelligent to say, then what is your purpose on this thread? Or on this planet?

Fuck off and leave the forum like you promised before?

@nully

Would love to hear your opinion on my new proposition. Genuinely interested in good criticism.

scam_detector, I thank you for reopening this thread.  After I saw cruso’s post, I was considering making that suggestion.  I think it’s important for any such questions to be examined in a fair and impartial manner.

To that end, I wish to reserve comment about aTriz until aTriz himself has a reasonable chance to have his say.  However, I also deem it wise to gather into the record here several interesting observations I made about this alleged gambling script.  I will edit this post with quotes and links to recent threads, or make a new post if more appropriate.  (In a nutshell:  Events which transpired after RGBKey offered to audit the script.)

---

Edit 1:

On the offer of a confidential audit:

While I was preparing a post suggesting an independent audit of Alia’s purported script, RGBKey stepped up of his own initiative and offered to perform one:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121333/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.100#msg31501344

I emphasize that independently and unprompted by anyone, RGBKey stated that he offered to analyze the script “without revealing its inner workings”.  I myself thought as such that if acting in good faith, Alia had no rational reason not to jump for the opportunity of such an audit.  Private auditors are usually well-paid.

I promptly gave my endorsement to RGBKey’s technical abilities for performing such an audit.  Given my general reputation, and also that Alia has repeatedly called me a “genius”, I hoped that this would encourage her to agree to an audit by RGBKey:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121333/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.100#msg31502508

suchmoon was less optimistic than I was.  Quite prescient:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121333/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.100#msg31504847

...indeed:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121333/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.100#msg31520776

(Aside:  In the same post, Alia also asked me to return money which she purported to have won for me by gambling.  When I said I had offered to give the money away to someone who needed it, she challenged me to donate 0.00673625 BTC to the Pirate Bay.  I did so.  I don’t want ill-gotten gains; and TPB deserves the money, not least because they hate Btrash.  Post with my txid, which can be traced through previous tx I have posted as to this affair: https://web.archive.org/web/20180304043503/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.msg31526121#msg31526121)

Whereupon I explained:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121340/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.120#msg31523930

...and I continued persisting in pressing Alia to agree to an audit:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121340/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.120#msg31526121

There is more pertinent discussion in that thread.  In the foregoing, I have given only a concise summary with very brief excerpts.  I encourage those interested to read the pertinent portions of the thread.  Also, my principal objective in the foregoing is to relate facts I believe may be probative—not to analyze or interpret those facts (beyond the obvious).

This thread is self-moderated by Alia.  Therefore, I here present a complete archive as it stands:

Complete archive of thread, single page (large):
https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121126/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.0;all

Individual pages:

1. https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121244/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.0

2. https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121250/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.20

3. https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121304/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.40

4. https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121311/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.60

5. https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121322/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.80

6. https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121333/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.100

7. https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121340/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.120

8. https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121401/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.140

9. https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121418/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.160

---

There are at least two other posts by Alia which I think may be relevant.  One, I can’t seem to find right now amidst the voluminous posts of the past few days.  That and the other, I intend to address later either by editing this post again, or making a separate post.

FFS go have a wank or something QS

Done.

This has been discussed million times in gambling section 

Btw, sometimes is better to place one big bet than 100000 small bets.
It is simple math, lets say you have 1BTC bankroll:

1) place 1 BTC on payout 2X and you will either lose 1BTC or you will make 1BTC.
2) Divide 1BTC in 100,000,000 small bets and bet all on multiplier 2X and lets say house edge is 1%. In perfect conditions, you will win 45,000,000 bets and you will lose 55,000,000 bets, which means you will lose 0.1BTC in long run. If you continue to bet you will eventually lose all bankroll, because casino has 1% advantage over you.

Now, regarding strategies:

1) There is no such thing as short run or long run if you use strategies(martingale, fibonacci etc), because eventually bad streak will occur. Unless you have crystal ball there is no possible way to say when it will occur.
You can run martingale(or any other method) for days and eventually you will hit that bad streak and you will lose your bankroll.
You can run martingale(or any other method) for 10 seconds and very bad streak could happen and you will lose your bankroll.

In any case, no matter what method you use, you will lose your bankroll, unless you are in circle of 0.01% super lucky people who managed to beat casino and house edge.

So please, would you stop repeating that there is winning method because such method doesn't exist!

Stop writing nonsense, I am sick tired of ignorant people who are repeating nonsense in gambling section, THERE IS NO METHOD/STRATEGY/SCRIPT/BOT WHICH WILL HELP YOU TO BEAT CASINO.
Whoever is selling such script knows that, because if there is winning method seller would use it.

Besides, you said you were testing strategy for 2 years which is big red sign in first place because if you tested winning strategy it means that you made lots of money and you don't need to sell script to earn more!

OP please lock topic, we are all tired of reading shits posted by scammer.

Pardon, I was not aware of that. I take back my statement.


And with this post I now lock the thread.

Credit where credit is due: I didn't expect this, and with the low fee I still wasn't entirely convinced, until it confirmed after 5+ hours.
I'm not saying my faith is restored, but it's something. Well done.

I won't get hurt by an anonymous person online saying anything, but it is a pattern I've seen with many people: they're very nice, until they don't get their way. Then all of a sudden they lose their decency, and with that also their dignity.
Life hack: No matter how you feel, stay polite, it's a great way to show you're in control (or not!).

Using the account of a known red-tagged user is a perfectly valid reason to tag you too. That's common practice all over the forum.

If you honestly believe you're not here to scam anyone, you have an amazing talent of getting yourself into trouble, ranging from self-trust to tax evasion and denying math. If you happen to live with a known scammer and even share accounts, that would have been a good thing to mention. Honesty isn't the easy way, but it's valued (at least by me).
All of this combined is more than reasonable doubt.

One correction here
Regardless of the person
Truth is absolute

Not saying that this was the correct course of action but the way you organized the two quotes are in chronological order, not the other way around.

i.e. the post was created after the feedback was sent.

Another lie from alia.

I will lock this thread on 06:00 PM forum time!

You would be suspicious of a hidden link if aTriz....honored his obligation...I don’t think that makes very much sense.

If there was a hidden link....couldn’t aTtiz simply pay alia in secret?

Nope, alia is doubling down on anecdotal proof with a tiny sample size:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proving-that-my-gambling-script-works-3044369

Fuck haikus for now
I'll educate you on maths
Strategies don't work

---

If you are advocating that strategies can be profitable then you must show non-anecdotal proof (as it is obviously invalid and can use specific sample sizes) that the expected value of each bet is positive.

However, in gambling, short-term/long-term expected value of a given strategy is the same. There is no statistical difference between them. Any claim that there IS a difference is either wrong or relies on the gambler's fallacy for a game with fixed terms. You even stated yourself in the feedback against RGBKey: "Naturally - [the script] is a mathematical fallacy, because the odds of the ten games are calculated in an isolated fashion and are not involved with each other."

How can you continue to disregard immutable proof?

Suppose we take bustabit's case: 1% house edge.

1% house edge?! So even if you cash out instantly at 1.00x, there's a 1% chance of loss? That's an overall negative trend.

For any given strategy, there's a 51:49 loss-to-win ratio. Doesn't matter what you do. That's an overall loss.

Thank you. No, I'm not hiding any links... I have paid aTriz back and would like to make it clear. My intention was never, ever to scam anyone. Everyone here has got it wrong.