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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 28, 2019, 11:23:31 AM

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I suppose there may be a small chance and the tariffs could go away, but even with above, not working in my circumstances. Sad

Still does not make a lot of sense for me at 10c kWh, but thanks for the info. At least I can sit on the sidelines and watch the ASIC wars from the bleachers!

As for me, I would make 19c a day after electric. Yech! Using above 31TH at 2,200 watts, at 10c kWh. So right now with a Bimain S9i, I purchased this summer (dubious never to ROI..my ASIC hoard is down to this ONE unit now)

I'd make -31c USD per day at the above rate according to https://whattomine.com/asic anyway at my dubious 10c kWh rate. I make underclocked at a stable 13.27TH and 1,100 watts, well don't really make, I lose, Hardly worth the extra 19c with a loss. So that boat doesn't float. Anyway (gets popcorn) will continue to watch from the sidelines in the bleachers!

Good prices though, if not yet justified by the price, might have taken a chance on some on hope/prayer of BTC price going up still and stabilizing.

Not with the tariff, however. Sad

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Phil - they also have the 1026 w/ 35 TH for under 800 @ 708 ***EDIT*** I see you listed the 35 TH on your post at the end.

https://canaan.io/avalonminer-1026-35t-october-batch/

I do not see anything about MOQ - but I assume that is after you contact them as you cannot purchase it via the link. I like the 708 price tag for 35 TH -- the efficiency is not bad at 67 J/TH

I know Bitmain has ones at 39 J/TH - but that is at a huge price increase with the tariff as well to be added on top.

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yeah here goes

this is a 628 price 31t maybe 2200 watts to do 31t

https://canaan.io/avalonminer-1026-31t-october-batch/

if you buy one it is no trump tax as it is under 800

this one is 648 price is 32t maybe 2220 watts to do 32t

https://canaan.io/avalonminer-1026-32t-october-batch/

if you buy one it is no trump tax as it is under 800

problem is how to buy 1 over seas since moq is 60

if you buy 60 trump tax is in effect.

these two units are listed here.

https://canaan.io/store/

along with other gear

they have a 31t a 32t a 33t a 34t a 35t all under trump tax if you can order 1.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 27, 2019, 06:54:04 PM

If they sell the 1026 with moq of one no trump tax.

If they ship a moq of 60 of them to blokforge trump tax.

Not sure what you mean by above moq? of one no Trump tax? Am I missing a memo here somehow?

Could you clarify for us on this thread? This whole tariff one day a new one coming another not so much is confusing as hell

likely won't get any, but I like to watch the ASIC porn of new equipment and other folk getting it (I'm sooooo..bored not mining anymore) Sad

thanks

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Ship one on monday then one on thurs. then one on mon and one on thurs. No trump tax legally.

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Likely not avoiding the tariffs on the their MOQ. Still decently priced. We're looking at a fulfillment channel to ship singles from and get these out under de minimis for our group buy.

edit: could even throttle shipments in a similar way for a single buyer.

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If they sell the 1026 with moq of one no trump tax.

If they ship a moq of 60 of them to blokforge trump tax.

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Looks like they've reduced prices. Response to Bitmain's price drops? $1978 for the 1166 and $1204 for the 1146.

Also added a new 10 series model, 1026.

https://canaan.io/store-2/

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Yea, saw the update and our canaan rep confirmed the moq the other day. Think our listings went up yesterday morning.

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And right on cue BTC price tanks below $7500... lol. I'm sure that'll put a damper on the Blokforge orders.

4 Month delivery is just too long, I'll just wait and see what happens. I wish they would have just waited until at least mid-Dec. if not Jan. to offer these.

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Which just gives you a link to email them, where they tell you the MOQ is 60 Roll Eyes

Wait for them to go live on blokforge I guess if us peons what to buy one or two.

[edit] Which they are now: https://blokforge.com/product-category/new-miners/

First time in ages Canaan is power competitive with the competition. (S17, M20S)

Still not as good as the S17-Pro or S17+ but they are mucho dinero.

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I emailed Canaan sales and asked for details. I just got a reply this morning. They say the MOQ is 60.

11 Series now on the website.

https://canaan.io/store/

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Yea got the emails too, asking for clarity on MOQ and we'll have listings up as soon as possible. The dual psu input is a turn off to me even though convenient for most buildout. Still hesitant to run one on a single c19/20 cable though even with 30A 240V lines. After Innosilicon's continued delays, MicroBT as well and bitmain's low inventory on 17+ models and pricing roller coaster Canaan probably has the edge in market but only if you're patient enough. Feb is a long way out, the pricing is decent but I would expect it to get better unless market pumps.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 19, 2019, 10:34:21 AM

The a10 has a completely different GUI design. Maybe that change is in part why they did not publish the source code for it.

Yep, but if they still use the cgminer and openwrt, they should publish the source code.

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Quote from: frodocooper on October 19, 2019, 07:51:15 AM

I beg to differ.

Canaan announced the A721 on 2016-11-07. Commit 04e6a4b, titled Add Avalon7 support, was committed by qinfengling on 2016-07-29 and published by Canaan in the avalon7-dev branch of their cgminer repository on 2016-11-05. In other words, Canaan published the source code for the A721's version of cgminer two days before they officially announced the miner.

Canaan announced the A821 on 2017-12-20 at the latest. Commit 6786bbd, titled Add Avalon8 support, was committed by qinfengling on 2017-09-11 and published by Canaan in the avalon8 branch of their cgminer repository on 2017-09-27. In other words, Canaan published the source code for the A821's version of cgminer roughly three months before they officially announced the miner.

Canaan announced the A921 on 2018-09-19 at the latest. Commit fbc869b, titled Add Avalon921 support, was committed by Johnson-Fan on 2018-09-10 and published by Canaan in the avalon9 branch of their cgminer repository on 2018-09-11. In other words, Canaan published the source code for the A921's version of cgminer roughly eight days before they officially announced the miner.

Canaan announced the A10 at 2019-03-28T15:21Z. It is now almost seven months since the official announcement and there is still no published source code for the A10 in any of their GitHub repositories at the time of writing. The only entry for the A10 to date is the avalon10-docs repository, which merely contains a manual for the A10's API.

The a10 has a completely different GUI design. Maybe that change is in part why they did not publish the source code for it.

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I beg to differ.

Canaan announced the A721 on 2016-11-07. Commit 04e6a4b, titled Add Avalon7 support, was committed by qinfengling on 2016-07-29 and published by Canaan in the avalon7-dev branch of their cgminer repository on 2016-11-05. In other words, Canaan published the source code for the A721's version of cgminer two days before they officially announced the miner.

Canaan announced the A821 on 2017-12-20 at the latest. Commit 6786bbd, titled Add Avalon8 support, was committed by qinfengling on 2017-09-11 and published by Canaan in the avalon8 branch of their cgminer repository on 2017-09-27. In other words, Canaan published the source code for the A821's version of cgminer roughly three months before they officially announced the miner.

Canaan announced the A921 on 2018-09-19 at the latest. Commit fbc869b, titled Add Avalon921 support, was committed by Johnson-Fan on 2018-09-10 and published by Canaan in the avalon9 branch of their cgminer repository on 2018-09-11. In other words, Canaan published the source code for the A921's version of cgminer roughly eight days before they officially announced the miner.

Canaan announced the A10 at 2019-03-28T15:21Z. It is now almost seven months since the official announcement and there is still no published source code for the A10 in any of their GitHub repositories at the time of writing. The only entry for the A10 to date is the avalon10-docs repository, which merely contains a manual for the A10's API.

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Quote from: frodocooper on October 19, 2019, 12:13:09 AM

It appears that Canaan has stopped publishing their source code in their GitHub repositories since the release of the A10 series. Given that the A10 (and presumably the A11) use cgminer — at least according to the only available documentation for the A10 — Canaan appears to have followed in the footsteps of the other manufacturers in violating cgminer's license.

If the A10 and A11 are using OpenWrt as the base OS, then Canaan is also violating OpenWrt's license by not publishing the source code for their fork of OpenWrt.

This is a regrettable development.

I doubt it.

Since if you check history, rather than guessing, they've usually released it later than the miner.

However, -ck also effectively shut down the cgminer git so go complain to him.

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Quote from: wndsnb on October 18, 2019, 01:16:35 PM

They tweeted this our this morning as well. Still isn't clear what "partners" means, but they tweeted it out for everyone to see so maybe it is a public offer.

https://twitter.com/canaanio/status/1185183766223839232

https://i.imgur.com/JJEwJYJ.png

I think it means customers or previous assumed buyers. I got the email as well saying the exact thing.

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It appears that Canaan has stopped publishing their source code in their GitHub repositories since the release of the A10 series. Given that the A10 (and presumably the A11) use cgminer — at least according to the only available documentation for the A10 — Canaan appears to have followed in the footsteps of the other manufacturers in violating cgminer's license.

If the A10 and A11 are using OpenWrt as the base OS, then Canaan is also violating OpenWrt's license by not publishing the source code for their fork of OpenWrt.

This is a regrettable development.

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They tweeted this our this morning as well. Still isn't clear what "partners" means, but they tweeted it out for everyone to see so maybe it is a public offer.

https://twitter.com/canaanio/status/1185183766223839232

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