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Quote from: Baofeng on March 09, 2018, 05:17:05 PM

I don't know if boxing fans here are aware of the latest news:

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For those who have yet to hear, it was announced on Monday that Saul “Canelo” Alvarez had tested positive for “trace levels” of Clenbuterol during voluntary pre-fight screening for banned substances ahead of his May 5 rematch with Gennady Golovkin.

http://www.fighthype.com/news/article32541.html

They blame it on the contaminated meat in Mexico which is really plaguing the country now. But I don't know if this is intentional or what and they are pointing fingers to the meat industry for using Clen to raised and breed their cattles to be more lean with less fat on it.

What's your take on this?

But I hope that GGG vs Alvarez II will push thru this May to settle once and for all who is the true p4p king.

The reputation of some Mexican boxing superstars were tainted when it comes to banned substance use. I saw the fight between Alvarez vs Golovkin and i could say that GGG dominated Alvarez through out the fight and how much more if he had not used that banned substance.

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Well it look likes Canelo is withdrawing his fight with Golovkin because its unlikely the NSAC will likely allow him to fight and might be looking for a long term suspension. See the video below.

http://fighthype.com/news/article32862.html

So Golovkin will have to look for another dancing partner here. I hope that the rematch will push immediately as Golovkin i not getting any younger as well.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 23, 2018, 08:33:43 PM

Canelo Alvarez to have April 10 hearing after temporary suspension

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The Nevada State Athletic Commission temporarily suspended Canelo Alvarez on Friday due to his two positive tests for the banned substance clenbuterol, commission executive director Bob Bennett told ESPN.

Alvarez will be required to appear at a commission hearing on the issue on April 10, less than a month before he is to challenge unified middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin on May 5 at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas in a rematch of their controversial draw in September. ‎

The commission could suspend him further, placing the rematch in significant jeopardy.

http://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/22889219/canelo-alvarez-temporarily-suspended-nevada-state-athletic-commission

So the fight is still up in the air. But I'm sure that they will let this fight push through. Maybe the Nevada Commission just put this as front so that it will looks like they are really bring fair here.

There's too much money in the line that I doubt that they will jeopardized this fight. One way to do is have Canelo submitted for random blood or urine testing to see if he is actually using Clen or not.

Yes, I don't think that NSAC will postponed the fight because its schedule on Cinco-de-Mayo as we all know if being celebrated in US soil and as far as I can remember Oscar dela Hoya almost loves to fight around that time because its like New Year, of course resulting to more ticket sales.

I just pity GGG, because he really don't know if the fight will still push through because we don't know what will be the NSAC final decision. Maybe he will just continue to train and hope that the fight will go as plan and be ready.

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Canelo Alvarez to have April 10 hearing after temporary suspension

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The Nevada State Athletic Commission temporarily suspended Canelo Alvarez on Friday due to his two positive tests for the banned substance clenbuterol, commission executive director Bob Bennett told ESPN.

Alvarez will be required to appear at a commission hearing on the issue on April 10, less than a month before he is to challenge unified middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin on May 5 at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas in a rematch of their controversial draw in September. ‎

The commission could suspend him further, placing the rematch in significant jeopardy.

http://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/22889219/canelo-alvarez-temporarily-suspended-nevada-state-athletic-commission

So the fight is still up in the air. But I'm sure that they will let this fight push through. Maybe the Nevada Commission just put this as front so that it will looks like they are really bring fair here.

There's too much money in the line that I doubt that they will jeopardized this fight. One way to do is have Canelo submitted for random blood or urine testing to see if he is actually using Clen or not.

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GGG making a lot of noise or maybe hyping the fight. As he called Canelo a cheater.

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Golovkin is not buying Canelo's excuse, which several other athletes have used in the country - including other boxers like Erik Morales, Francisco Vargas and Luis Nery.

"Again with Mexican meat? Come on," Golovkin said to media members on Tuesday.

"I told you, it's not Mexican meat. This is Canelo. This is his team. This is his promotion. ... Canelo is cheating. They're using these drugs, and everybody is just trying to pretend it's not happening."

https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-canelo-cheating-using-drugs-de-la-hoya-dirty--126405

We can understand where GGG is coming from. And I agree that it will somewhat put a stain of Canelo from his past and future fights. And his opponents can make a excuses that he is on PEDs, when this lost. Grin

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Whether we like it or not, it looks like Canelo Alvarez legacy is already tainted with the failed drug test. And no matter what explanation or excuses, not only in boxing, in the public eyes, once you are caught you are a cheater, your credibility in question.

Interesting to see how one expert opinion on the matter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKXiWuF86BU

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Here's the latest update on this drama.

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Saul Alvarez passes two drug tests after Clenbuterol scare threatened Gennady Golovkin rematch

The 27-year-old switched his training base to the US and volunteered for additional testing to prove his innocence.

And after the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association tested him on March 3 and 5 - finding no banned substances - the Golovkin bout looks set to go ahead.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/5773326/saul-alvarez-passes-drug-tests-gennady-golovkin-rematch/

So its already a GO. So for now let's say we should all blame the Mexican cattle farm industry for using Clen. Lol. Another great fight for the fans.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 09, 2018, 05:17:05 PM

I don't know if boxing fans here are aware of the latest news:

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For those who have yet to hear, it was announced on Monday that Saul “Canelo” Alvarez had tested positive for “trace levels” of Clenbuterol during voluntary pre-fight screening for banned substances ahead of his May 5 rematch with Gennady Golovkin.

http://www.fighthype.com/news/article32541.html

They blame it on the contaminated meat in Mexico which is really plaguing the country now. But I don't know if this is intentional or what and they are pointing fingers to the meat industry for using Clen to raised and breed their cattles to be more lean with less fat on it.

What's your take on this?

But I hope that GGG vs Alvarez II will push thru this May to settle once and for all who is the true p4p king.

They probably didn't think they'd be caught and blamed it on the meat. I don't buy it. Although i'd love to see the rematch with GGG, canelo probably don't believe he can beat the guy fair and square. I don't think he can beat golovkin.

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That is a common issue for mexican boxers. No doubt why alvarez can take Triple G's hardest punches. Tho it is still disappointing that after he became what he is right now. He still continue to use the this type of substance. I am not sure tho if the fight was canceled.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 12, 2018, 03:31:23 PM

Quote from: wriizo on March 11, 2018, 04:05:56 PM

I am heartbroken, he is my favorite fighter. I think he was setup by GGG. He is that type of a fighter.

WTF are you talking about? How did you know that it was a setup by the GGG himself or his camp? Do you have proof of that or are just completely trolling?

Obviously not trolling. I strongly believe that a setup is possibly made, maybe by GGG maybe not. I would be really disappointed if he took it by his own will. Who knows maybe Canelo doesn't feel ready for the fight so he took something that sustains somewhat of a banned substance to postpone the fight for a little. Huh

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Quote from: wriizo on March 11, 2018, 04:05:56 PM

I am heartbroken, he is my favorite fighter. I think he was setup by GGG. He is that type of a fighter.

WTF are you talking about? How did you know that it was a setup by the GGG himself or his camp? Do you have proof of that or are just completely trolling?

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Quote from: wriizo on March 11, 2018, 04:05:56 PM

I am heartbroken, he is my favorite fighter. I think he was setup by GGG. He is that type of a fighter.

Looks like GGG has failed the test,if you are a professional athlete you must be careful about what you intake and not to blame something else after getting caught, since you are accusing GGG i am telling that if Canelo is to win the fight he needs some booster as he is not going to last next time around as we do not even believe the judges. Tongue

Another one. Its Canelo not GGG who have failed the test.

The best thing to do is just to postpone the fight until the camp of Canelo really proves that they are not using steroids here. Although for me this is a honest mistake, but it already put some questions on his performance not just on their first fight but around his previous win.

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Quote from: ene1980 on March 11, 2018, 06:02:29 PM

Quote from: wriizo on March 11, 2018, 04:05:56 PM

I am heartbroken, he is my favorite fighter. I think he was setup by GGG. He is that type of a fighter.

Looks like GGG has failed the test,if you are a professional athlete you must be careful about what you intake and not to blame something else after getting caught, since you are accusing GGG i am telling that if Canelo is to win the fight he needs some booster as he is not going to last next time around as we do not even believe the judges. Tongue

Do you know what's going on? I think you've mistakenly swapped triple G and Canelo. Have a look on the title, it's Canelo that got positive on the CLEN test.

Quote from: npredtorch on March 11, 2018, 05:32:11 PM

Anyway, I think the fight will be postponed due to the fact that it's unfair. Some old matches are defaulted too due to that issue, so why wouldn't they do it now. (haven't read the news, is it already postponed?)

Just an addition to what I've said earlier, If I were them I'll truly postpone the fight. Why? It'll be controversial after all. By any chance, Alvarez have defeated triple G , what's gonna happen?
I'm absolutely sure triple G will point it out on the use of drugs that's why he lost the fight. That's an easy & legit statement.

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Quote from: wriizo on March 11, 2018, 04:05:56 PM

I am heartbroken, he is my favorite fighter. I think he was setup by GGG. He is that type of a fighter.

Looks like GGG has failed the test,if you are a professional athlete you must be careful about what you intake and not to blame something else after getting caught, since you are accusing GGG i am telling that if Canelo is to win the fight he needs some booster as he is not going to last next time around as we do not even believe the judges. Tongue

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Quote from: Tipstar on March 10, 2018, 07:24:37 PM

This is not a newly banned substance and is considered a dope since 2007. Alvarez is also not a newbie who doesn't know what to eat.
So, clearly it's intentional. The amount of dope found in the test too would verify that.

It's probably just as you're saying. Also this was a single test. He has to be tested again and probably will be. A single test doesn't mean anything, you have to get another sample tested and if both of them are positive then you're in trouble. If it's a trace it could've been a single dose added to his meal or water to make him test positive and start the witch hunt. If he was really using he'd not have a trace because such small amounts don't give you any advantage. You are either on it or not.

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Quote from: wriizo on March 11, 2018, 04:05:56 PM

I am heartbroken, he is my favorite fighter. I think he was setup by GGG. He is that type of a fighter.

A setup? It's the last reason that I would think of.
Oh, yes! maybe triple G have an insider on Canelo's boxing team and that guy/gal intentionally put a contaminated meat on the latter's meal or strong enough, directly gave him a tablet which supposed to be CLEN.
Well, that's possible LOL.

Anyway, I think the fight will be postponed due to the fact that it's unfair. Some old matches are defaulted too due to that issue, so why wouldn't they do it now. (haven't read the news, is it already postponed?)

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I am heartbroken, he is my favorite fighter. I think he was setup by GGG. He is that type of a fighter.

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This is a really unfortunate situation but i think the fight will take place as planned because there is a lot of money to be made and i believe the Mexican meat story and there is only a small trace found in his system ,in my opinion GGG won the first fight and this is the perfect second fight and i am sure this is going to be another great fight .

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Quote from: Claudyah on March 10, 2018, 08:19:36 AM

In response to the positive test, Golden Boy said that Alvarez would soon move his training camp to the United States from Mexico and put forward additional drug testing.

But the damage has been done already. Intentionally or not. It has somewhat put questions on his 1st performance against Golovkin.

Quote from: Theb on March 10, 2018, 05:07:10 AM

Would you really believed his alibi? I mean he is a professional boxer and his diet is on a strict regime, meaning all the food he eats and even the water he drinks is examined and screened by his dieticians. If he get passed by his drug test it would mean a bad thing for Golovkin. He is obviously heavy and Clenbuterol is used for cutting down weight. Blaming the meat he eats only makes a lot of parties involve, I wouldn't be surprised if the cattle producer will be the one to take the fall here.

Every athlete from Mexico should be aware of this issue because its been ongoing for quite some time now. That's why the alibi is somewhat sketchy. I haven't seen the amount of clen found on his system. But if such amount is high, then there will be doubts on him. Maybe its just another excuse from this camp so that they can get away with steroids abuse because Saul Alvarez looks really different.

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Quote from: Claudyah on March 10, 2018, 08:19:36 AM

In response to the positive test, Golden Boy said that Alvarez would soon move his training camp to the United States from Mexico and put forward additional drug testing.

I am sure that he was really doping because his alibi is really funny blaming something that you ate as a result meanwhile he failed to mention the exact food that he ate which caused the positive test in the first place.

Yeah, we can't denied that is probably been doping specially for this fight because he wants to take some edge. Golovkin is far more stronger in my opinion, although Canelo has a very tough chin, but during the fight he seems to be like Margarito, the more he was hit, the tougher he becomes. Of course this is just my speculation.

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I really think this is a shame, and I hate every time I see top athletes getting caught on doping. We look up to them and thing they are amazing for what they can achieve, and when we see this, we just don't know for sure if we can trust them or not. Don't get me wrong, they are still amazing athletes, and even I the common folks like us, consumed the same substance he did, we would not achieve his performance. They are still beasts, but they are getting an edge over their competitors, and that is a shame. Because we think they are amazing, and maybe they competitors would have beat them, if it wasn't for the cheating.

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This is not a newly banned substance and is considered a dope since 2007. Alvarez is also not a newbie who doesn't know what to eat.
So, clearly it's intentional. The amount of dope found in the test too would verify that.

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