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Quote from: mirakal on May 09, 2019, 11:00:54 PM

Do they mentioned how much is that in dollars if converted?
I think the value is more interesting to know.

It will be difficult to calculate the total revenue, as the 1.2 million figure is for the world-wide audience and not just for the US market. And if I am not wrong, the fees vary from region to region. That said, I heard that at least in the US the fight was priced below the industry average. Normally the rates would range somewhere between $69 and $99, but DAZN was selling this one for $19.99. So I guess, they earned around $24 million from the PPV, which is less than Canelo's purse ($35 million).

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 09, 2019, 09:04:24 PM

Though not yet official, PPV buys for Canelo vs Jacobs fight is 1.2M according to boxingscene.com which is a little bit higher than that of Canelo vs GGG 2 fight which sold 1.1M buys.

source https://www.boxingscene.com/dazn-canelo-jacobs-fight-watched-by-12-million-worldwide--138806

Do they mentioned how much is that in dollars if converted?
I think the value is more interesting to know.

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Though not yet official, PPV buys for Canelo vs Jacobs fight is 1.2M according to boxingscene.com which is a little bit higher than that of Canelo vs GGG 2 fight which sold 1.1M buys.

source https://www.boxingscene.com/dazn-canelo-jacobs-fight-watched-by-12-million-worldwide--138806

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Quote from: BRE on May 07, 2019, 06:54:07 PM

Canelo = easy money Cool

But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo.

If fairness to the judges and Canelo, I think the fight is not controversial enough to warrant a robbery unlike with his fights with GGG. Just what i have posted days ago that Jacobs only chance to steal the show is via knock-out but it didn't happen.

I would agree. But I think that there was no robbery because the need was not there. An unbiased jury might have given a draw. But still, a win for Canelo could be justified. You can convert a draw to a win for either of the fighters and hardly anyone would complain about it. But what happened during the fight against GGG was that the latter had clearly won the fight and the jury awarded it to Canelo. No sympathies for Jacobs. He knew that he needed a KO. And he was unable to do that.

Canelo won the fight and I agree that there is no robbery. About the clause though, it's controversial to me, I mean if you really wanted to win fair and square, why would you like your opponents to be drained? You will hear fighters saying that they don't want to hear their opponents making excuses after the fight but it seems the Canelo has given Jacobs and his team some reason and to make some noise about that clause.

Let's move on, let's give the credit to Canelo for winning.
Boxing is corrupt, there are some decision that we might not agree with, there's nothing new here. come on Grin

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Quote from: Netnox on May 08, 2019, 11:43:39 PM

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Quote from: BRE on May 07, 2019, 06:54:07 PM

Canelo = easy money Cool

But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo.

If fairness to the judges and Canelo, I think the fight is not controversial enough to warrant a robbery unlike with his fights with GGG. Just what i have posted days ago that Jacobs only chance to steal the show is via knock-out but it didn't happen.

I would agree. But I think that there was no robbery because the need was not there. An unbiased jury might have given a draw. But still, a win for Canelo could be justified. You can convert a draw to a win for either of the fighters and hardly anyone would complain about it. But what happened during the fight against GGG was that the latter had clearly won the fight and the jury awarded it to Canelo. No sympathies for Jacobs. He knew that he needed a KO. And he was unable to do that.

Canelo won the fight and I agree that there is no robbery. About the clause though, it's controversial to me, I mean if you really wanted to win fair and square, why would you like your opponents to be drained? You will hear fighters saying that they don't want to hear their opponents making excuses after the fight but it seems the Canelo has given Jacobs and his team some reason and to make some noise about that clause.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 07, 2019, 07:28:42 PM

Quote from: BRE on May 07, 2019, 06:54:07 PM

Canelo = easy money Cool

But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo.

If fairness to the judges and Canelo, I think the fight is not controversial enough to warrant a robbery unlike with his fights with GGG. Just what i have posted days ago that Jacobs only chance to steal the show is via knock-out but it didn't happen.

I would agree. But I think that there was no robbery because the need was not there. An unbiased jury might have given a draw. But still, a win for Canelo could be justified. You can convert a draw to a win for either of the fighters and hardly anyone would complain about it. But what happened during the fight against GGG was that the latter had clearly won the fight and the jury awarded it to Canelo. No sympathies for Jacobs. He knew that he needed a KO. And he was unable to do that.

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 08, 2019, 10:51:58 PM

Probably the question is why did Canelo need that clause in the first place? Is he playing mind games off, are afraid that Jacobs rehydrating to like 175++ lbs? Also it was reveal prior to the fight, I think Canelo doesn't want media attacking him with that clause. But since he already won, no one did except Jacobs fans. Grin

If we look at the tale of the tape, Daniel Jacobs is bigger than Canelo Alvarez by 9 centimeters or 3.6 inches and Daniel Jacobs reach is longer by 6 centimeters or 2.3 inches. I guess Canelo Alvarez want's to play it safe by asking for a clause so that Daniel Jacobs will not step in the ring with the weight where he is comfortable.

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nydiacaskey01- it was $9 millions of Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

That's what I was thinking also. Did it affect on his performance? The fight was so close but sadly, Jacobs didn't manage to knock out Canelo. If he did, no doubt he won that fight.

But he did go above 170 lbs so what effect are you guys talking about? Maybe there is a psychological effect here but I doubt it. Although this kind of clause looks very sketchy but there are fighters like Manny Pacquiao who implemented this kind of clause whenever the fights bigger fighter so there is no surprises here.

Probably the question is why did Canelo need that clause in the first place? Is he playing mind games off, are afraid that Jacobs rehydrating to like 175++ lbs? Also it was reveal prior to the fight, I think Canelo doesn't want media attacking him with that clause. But since he already won, no one did except Jacobs fans. Grin

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on May 07, 2019, 09:49:12 PM

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nydiacaskey01- it was $9 millions of Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

That's what I was thinking also. Did it affect on his performance? The fight was so close but sadly, Jacobs didn't manage to knock out Canelo. If he did, no doubt he won that fight.

But he did go above 170 lbs so what effect are you guys talking about? Maybe there is a psychological effect here but I doubt it. Although this kind of clause looks very sketchy but there are fighters like Manny Pacquiao who implemented this kind of clause whenever the fights bigger fighter so there is no surprises here.

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 07, 2019, 09:21:23 PM

nydiacaskey01- it was $9 millions of Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

That's what I was thinking also. Did it affect on his performance? The fight was so close but sadly, Jacobs didn't manage to knock out Canelo. If he did, no doubt he won that fight.

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nydiacaskey01- it was just $9 million on Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

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Quote from: BRE on May 07, 2019, 06:54:07 PM

Canelo = easy money Cool

But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo.

If fairness to the judges and Canelo, I think the fight is not controversial enough to warrant a robbery unlike with his fights with GGG. Just what i have posted days ago that Jacobs only chance to steal the show is via knock-out but it didn't happen.

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Canelo = easy money Cool

In my opinion, it was a boring fight and it was a draw... But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo... and it's because of the date and what Canelo represents for the Mexican people.

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Fight results
Canelo Alvarez def. Daniel Jacobs (35-2) via decision

Congrats on those who back Canelo Alvarez to win in this fight, though with small odds but it's a win.
Good fight for both, but Canelo Alvarez as the favorites is better in this fight, it was close if I'm going to score it.

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 05, 2019, 11:21:26 PM

*Canelo Alvarez is expected to earn $35 Million USD on this fight while Daniel Jacobs is expected to earn a $10 Million (source cbssports)

Huge money, both are winners with this amount and king of sharing.

It could be the biggest purse for Daniel Jacobs as well. Win or lose he is guaranteed a cool $10 m. Canelo Alvarez is new the cash cow of boxing. I remember when Pacquiao was at his prime everyone wanted to fight him because it's a sweepstakes. And now we are seeing in it Canelo Alvarez.

What's next for him? He needs to face or go up in weight and face the next champion.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 05, 2019, 11:21:26 PM

Fight results
Canelo Alvarez def. Daniel Jacobs (35-2) via decision

Congrats on those who back Canelo Alvarez to win in this fight, though with small odds but it's a win.
Good fight for both, but Canelo Alvarez as the favorites is better in this fight, it was close if I'm going to score it.

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 05, 2019, 11:21:26 PM

*Canelo Alvarez is expected to earn $35 Million USD on this fight while Daniel Jacobs is expected to earn a $10 Million (source cbssports)

Huge money, both are winners with this amount and king of sharing.

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Fight results

Canelo Alvarez def. Daniel Jacobs (35-2) via decision

Vergil Ortiz Jr. def. Mauricio Herrera via KO in Round 3

Lamont Roach Jr. def. Jonathan Oquendo via decision

Joseph Diaz Jr. def. Freddy Fonseca KO in Round 7

Anthony Young def. Sadam Ali via KO in Round 3

John Ryder def. Bilal Akkawy KO in Round 3

Alexis Espino def. Billy Wagner via decision

*Canelo Alvarez is expected to earn $35 Million USD on this fight while Daniel Jacobs is expected to earn a $10 Million (source cbssports)

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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

I would have given a draw. Same was with GGG. Close fight, could be a draw, but the judges game win to Canelo, as for more famous and popular fighter.

Yes, I think the first fight with GGG could go to Golovkin though. There's no way the judges could give it a draw as GGG was moving forward in that fight. Anyways, let's see a third fight with GGG so that Canelo would proved that he really win in those 2 controversial win.

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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

~snip~

I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.

This is expected, the only way for Jacobs to win the fight is through a knockout, that might be the reason why he did not met the contracted weight the morning of the fight. He looked the bigger fighter but Canelo have outsmarted him as he is lighter and quicker to avoid those power punches of Jacobs. He may have hurt Canelo in the 9th round but not enough to put him on the canvass. Boxing judges sucks but people in the venue, majority maybe Mexicans as it is the Cinco de Mayo weekend were happy of the result.

GGG on ringside, hoping for that 3rd fight with Canelo.

As far as I know GGG sign with DAZN as well so there is a possibility that a big third fight is on the horizon. Jacobs is the taller fighter, but as you have said, Canelo adjusted specially when Jacobs is moving. Yes, I would also assumed that Canelo has a lot of Mexican fights so another reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo.

Yes he did (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/ggg-signs-with-dazn-canelo-alvarez-trilogy-and-more-fights-to-make-for-gennady-golovkin/). So there is a chance that we might see a trilogy after all.

And according to Canelo:

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For me, it’s over,” Alvarez said about his rivalry with Golovkin. “But if the people want another fight, we’ll do it again, and I’ll beat him again.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-if-people-want-another-golovkin-fight-ill-beat-him-again--138697

For me the fight fell short of expectations. More of a chess match, back and forth fight adjustments (Canelo going south paw) and eventhough there are round that are exciting like the 8th and the 9th, it doesn't have the excitement that a Canelo and GGG fight. So bring the 3rd fight in the table, it could bring more money for both fighters.

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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

~snip~

I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.

This is expected, the only way for Jacobs to win the fight is through a knockout, that might be the reason why he did not met the contracted weight the morning of the fight. He looked the bigger fighter but Canelo have outsmarted him as he is lighter and quicker to avoid those power punches of Jacobs. He may have hurt Canelo in the 9th round but not enough to put him on the canvass. Boxing judges sucks but people in the venue, majority maybe Mexicans as it is the Cinco de Mayo weekend were happy of the result.

GGG on ringside, hoping for that 3rd fight with Canelo.

As far as I know GGG sign with DAZN as well so there is a possibility that a big third fight is on the horizon. Jacobs is the taller fighter, but as you have said, Canelo adjusted specially when Jacobs is moving. Yes, I would also assumed that Canelo has a lot of Mexican fights so another reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo.

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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

~snip~

I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.

This is expected, the only way for Jacobs to win the fight is through a knockout, that might be the reason why he did not met the contracted weight the morning of the fight. He looked the bigger fighter but Canelo have outsmarted him as he is lighter and quicker to avoid those power punches of Jacobs. He may have hurt Canelo in the 9th round but not enough to put him on the canvass. Boxing judges sucks but people in the venue, majority maybe Mexicans as it is the Cinco de Mayo weekend were happy of the result.

GGG on ringside, hoping for that 3rd fight with Canelo.

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