Can't gambling addiction also be positive? - page 5.

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If it has become a gambling addiction, I think it will be quite difficult to see the negative side. because, however, gambling addiction has become part of the disease and disorder. If he can still control and manage gambling very well, with full awareness and is able to know when to stop and when to start, then it is not a gambling addiction, it is just possible that his profession as a gambler is so profitable that he cannot abandon gambling activities.

However, if you have gambling addiction, from the name alone, "addict" is definitely related to emotional stress, financial worries, and other serious issues.

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"When you think of the effects of gambling, certain things spring to mind. Like financial worries, relationship difficulties and other serious issues.

Problem gambling is when betting starts to create trouble in your life, such as debt, relationship problems, job loss, stress or depression, or it gets in the way of other responsibilities in your life.

‘addiction’ is a clinical term

Source: Gambling addiction

and if we ask, what are the positive things about gambling addiction?
for addicted gamblers and families or other people around: No.

For the odds, yes the more addicted gamblers there are, the more income there is for the odds, the casinos.

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Quote from: Cantsay on July 23, 2024, 07:53:25 AM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 22, 2024, 09:53:10 AM

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

At the long run the disadvantage of being addicted to gambling will always be greater than any benefits that a user might derive from it.

Just like any other gambling, the more you engage in it the more it destroys you, the more you do drug and gain pleasure from it the more it destroys your systems and the more you gamble the more and satisfy your desires the more you lose money and the more you’ll keep increasing your individual stakes until it comes to the point where they’ll no longer be able to afford to continue gambling.

Since it’s more disastrous I don’t think it’s worth considering the positive aspect of it.

I also couldn't find a very good reason as a long-term impact of gambling addiction. Do remember, too much abuse of anything always end up badly. And so with any other addiction. And just like what you mentioned, the positive benefits can be easily overpowered by its bad effects in the long run.

But for the sake of discussion here. There are some known unintended and short-lived positive influence of gambling addiction : (1) social connection - as gamblers can engage with others to fulfil the feeling of belongingness, (2) emotional release - which can be a temporary escape from their stressful life, (3) being creative - as they look for strategies how to "beat" the house Grin

or (4) boosting someone else's confidence especially if he is on the winning side. Like I said, these benefits can be temporary only.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on July 22, 2024, 09:58:29 AM

Yes hobbies are like good addiction because the person will like the hobby and like to do it frequently. But it is called hobby because such thing will help his life and health. Something like playing football, going for finishing and the likes. But if that thing is harming the person, it would be seen as addiction. If someone is noticing that he is gambling in a way that it is demanding too much time from him, the person will only notice losses. The more the person is gambling and betting, the more the losses. The people that win from gambling and betting are not doing it frequently and they are not addicted to it.

I think hobbies and addiction are two different things. Not because a person does things regularly as a hobby means he is addicted to it. If one finds exercise to be a good habit and does it regularly does not mean he is addicted to exercise. In a hobby, a person has full control over his activity and be able to modify it and can stop anytime he wanted. It does not affect his life negatively while addiction on the other hand is the opposite. The person's activity is imbalanced and can't control the urge to do things repeatedly. That said, the hobby does not hinder any daily activity and fits perfectly according to the person's daily routine while addiction takes priority over other things making it affect the daily schedule negatively, mostly all tasks is undone since the person is fully occupied by his addiction.

That said, I never considered that there is such a good addiction, because eventually, the addiction will bring a negative impact to the person's life if not its surroundings.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on July 22, 2024, 09:58:29 AM

Yes hobbies are like good addiction because the person will like the hobby and like to do it frequently. But it is called hobby because such thing will help his life and health. Something like playing football, going for finishing and the likes. But if that thing is harming the person, it would be seen as addiction. If someone is noticing that he is gambling in a way that it is demanding too much time from him, the person will only notice losses. The more the person is gambling and betting, the more the losses. The people that win from gambling and betting are not doing it frequently and they are not addicted to it.

You are very correct. Whatever that can cause and to make someone not to be fine can never be consider to be hobby. Hobbies derive joy that people don't regret spending time with their hobbies. I won't advice anyone to take gambling as hobby because gambling is a about lose and win, you can never predict what will be the outcome the game. Taking gambling to be an hobby can make one end up being addicted to gambling. Gambling can be fun to some people but won't be really good if people should take gambling to be hobby just because the outcome of gambling can't be predicted, not even a chance of 50/50.

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Quote from: sunsilk on July 23, 2024, 04:24:44 AM

Addiction cannot become a positive thing because the connotation of it comes with a negative effect on the person who has it.

Well, otherwise if someone will tell you that you're addicted to doing good things then that's a different matter. But speaking in general about it, there's no way that it can be a good or positive matter.

We all know that there are negative effects of it to the person who becomes addicted and it's a bad thing whether we like to believe that there's some positive on it because it will still rotate to the being as is.

That's right, this means that addiction can have a positive impact depending on the context of what is being discussed, in the sense that if gambling is the object then I think of course there is nothing positive in the addiction situation because after all gambling is an activity that involves money and risk.

But if the object of discussion is other things that fall into the category of good and useful activities without any risk then of course that is another thing that definitely has no risk or significant impact from an addiction situation. But yes overall we all know that addiction is a bad situation, but it also depends on what activity is being talked about.

The point is that if the object of discussion is addiction to gambling activities then of course I think everyone will agree that there is nothing positive that a person can get in the long term.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on July 22, 2024, 09:58:58 AM

Addiction is bad, I am not gonna backup any kind of addiction does something good even if someone is addicted to studying. The literal meaning of addiction is one can't live without doing that activity so if someone can't live without gambling on daily basis then he needs a rehab.

I picked interest in what you wrote because you speak generally and not only gambling-related. When we hear the context "addiction," we often believe it's entirely bad, I did as well until I started researching about it, even psychologists and those in the related fields recognise some addiction as good, but they always have their clause, and that is "if it's positive to you" regardless of whether or not you can control it.

And of course, this addiction of a thing is not so uncontrollable in all cases, it happens in stages and differently. You can imagine someone that can't stop reading books daily or exercising, are those addictions not damning, or do you think such people are not addicted to them as well?

Quote from: alani123 on July 22, 2024, 10:08:05 AM

Addiction can not be positive. This is simply because the very definition of addiction defines very negative consequences. Gambling addiction in specific is tied with financial ruin which in turn also has various societal effects.

Bro, do me a favour, research this and come back again to affirm that "addiction can not be positive." I don't just want us to believe this based on our interpretations. As for the financial ruin in gambling, yes, that is what we are used to, but are there no people still addicted to gambling and are profiting from it, whereby the profits are the major drive for their addiction? Is profiting not good? That's what I want us to look into.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 22, 2024, 09:53:10 AM

My view was a long epistle that I wouldn't want to bug anyone with even as my external sources confirmed hobby as a good addiction. Regardless, I don't want to limit this to my understanding, I want you guys to share your opinions as well.

At the long run the disadvantage of being addicted to gambling will always be greater than any benefits that a user might derive from it.

Just like any other gambling, the more you engage in it the more it destroys you, the more you do drug and gain pleasure from it the more it destroys your systems and the more you gamble the more and satisfy your desires the more you lose money and the more you’ll keep increasing your individual stakes until it comes to the point where they’ll no longer be able to afford to continue gambling.

Since it’s more disastrous I don’t think it’s worth considering the positive aspect of it.

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But how many people can use gambling and achieve positive goal from gambling compare to people who gets addicted to gambling? We are sure that many people gets addicted to gambling than winning much money without gets addicted to gambling. They can derive fun from gambling without getting addicted to gambling but they must have a power that can block them from the gambling addiction. They aware that playing gambling is only for fun and without having a goal to wins or use gambling as their way to make money.

Gambling addiction will gives suffer for you without you being realizes because your minds will not thinks about the lost money or how long you playing gambling or else. No matter if you win or lose, you wants to playing gambling to fills your desire and if you are not aware, you can lose much money. It's better to use gambling as one of many entertainments so you don't depends to gambling to have fun because you can do other activities to have fun.

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Quote from: shield132 on July 23, 2024, 04:32:52 AM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 22, 2024, 09:53:10 AM

As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I understand what you mean but that addiction is only good when you are at the top in your job. I had a neighbour who got addicted to sports betting but soon made a job out of it, he was feeding his family till his death by making sports bets, he was watching football and basketball every day, checking every match results and reading articles on many different sports news websites.
There are also people who got addicted to Poker but became so good at it that they made a professional career. Yes, in such cases addiction is good. Messi is addicted to football and he became one of the greatest players of all time, this kind of addiction helps us to become the master of our profession, so I agree with you that sometimes gambling addiction can be good but let's be frank, most of the time it's devastating.

Any for of addiction specially if its already compromises something then this is the time we can really be able to say that it is really that negative thing but on the time that you arent risking something then it would really be just that fine. We do know that any forms of addiction is something that considered bad specially if there would really be things that left behind or something that you arent that doing in balance anymore then it would really be that having that effect despite on having no financial involvement. This is why its important that you should really be wary on the actions that you are taking. Any hobby could really be getting involved with some sports
or any things that do really interest us. Addiction into gambling is never been good and i dont see anything which is really that positive into it, this is why you should really be careful.

Play according into your leisure needs or simply with entertainment on which on the moment that you do deal with it then you arent that compromising something. You are just making use of the funds on which you can afford to lose on which this is something that its recommended in the first place. Never ever consider yourself having those go past limitations because shit things happen in the very end.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 22, 2024, 09:53:10 AM

As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

I understand what you mean but that addiction is only good when you are at the top in your job. I had a neighbour who got addicted to sports betting but soon made a job out of it, he was feeding his family till his death by making sports bets, he was watching football and basketball every day, checking every match results and reading articles on many different sports news websites.
There are also people who got addicted to Poker but became so good at it that they made a professional career. Yes, in such cases addiction is good. Messi is addicted to football and he became one of the greatest players of all time, this kind of addiction helps us to become the master of our profession, so I agree with you that sometimes gambling addiction can be good but let's be frank, most of the time it's devastating.

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Addiction cannot become a positive thing because the connotation of it comes with a negative effect on the person who has it.

Well, otherwise if someone will tell you that you're addicted to doing good things then that's a different matter. But speaking in general about it, there's no way that it can be a good or positive matter.

We all know that there are negative effects of it to the person who becomes addicted and it's a bad thing whether we like to believe that there's some positive on it because it will still rotate to the being as is.

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The word addiction it self is use along with negative most times, coming to "if addiction to gambling addiction can also be positive" the answer is no and will always be no.Fine, you can make a good amount of money while you get addicted but your addiction can cause you to lose more than you've gained as you won't know when to take breaks and that's what addiction in gambling does, it wrecks you if you can't control it.

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What is addictive does not know its measure, which means it is harmful. Any medicine without measure will be harmful to health, just like a hobby, but that does not stop the owner from purchasing this or that rare item for his collection. Those people who believe that gambling will relieve their stress but who prioritize regular gambling may also compare themselves to a drug addict who, after receiving a dose, becomes very happy. Once again, everything in moderation is not harmful and, in some cases, useful, but without moderation, it turns into addiction, and this is already a disease. An illness cannot be beneficial.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on July 22, 2024, 09:58:58 AM

Addiction is bad, I am not gonna backup any kind of addiction does something good even if someone is addicted to studying. The literal meaning of addiction is one can't live without doing that activity so if someone can't live without gambling on daily basis then he needs a rehab. Making money is secondary and it happens with rarest of people but most of them just lose their money in the long run cause that's how gambling works.

If you see someone is doing without able to control then give them a warning like take a break for a while.

I agree, once calling addiction means negative and bad, I do not agree with the concept of positive addiction, we need to distinguish between passion and addiction. Especially when it comes to gambling, gambling is now considered an unhealthy game, one of the games that can cause social evils and is the cause of many broken families...Gambling has a bad reputation, so gambling addiction is never considered positive.

Those who make money from gambling are lucky but that doesn't mean they will keep it up for long and it shouldn't be seen as a positive thing. Because if they keep maintaining the idea that they can make a living or get rich from it, sooner or later they will have to pay the price.

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Quote from: bakasabo on July 23, 2024, 02:50:12 AM

Why do people consider an addicted gambler as a person who constantly only lose money or as something negative? A person can earn thousand and ten thousands per month, but spend few tens of dollars per week on gambling on regular basis. Is this person addicted - yes, but he isnt spending all his entire money on gambling. Why in this case addiction is considered as positive? Honestly speaking I dont know, but at least such person is busy gambling, instead of doing something bad.

You do not understand this. If you are addicted, you spend more time gambling. See what I posted recently about spending more time gambling:

Quote from: Charles-Tim on July 23, 2024, 01:06:18 AM

If gambling is taking much of your time like gambling at workplace and also gambling when you suppose to be sleeping, making your sleep shorter than it should be and making your health not to be as it should be and making you have headache and body pains. If you are making money from gambling but this is happening to you, that is still gambling addiction. But if someone spend more time in gambling like this, it is certain that the person is losing money.

If you gamble and win but not spending more time, the person is not addicted. You can place just one or two bets weekly. That is not addiction.

People that are addicted spend more time gambling and they are prone to losses.

The other addiction is when you are losing. Even if you spend less time but losing huge amount of money. That means you do not have self-control but losing to gambling.

You may not have self-control over your time. Also you may not have self-control over your money. Both are gambling addictions.

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Why do people consider an addicted gambler as a person who constantly only lose money or as something negative? A person can earn thousand and ten thousands per month, but spend few tens of dollars per week on gambling on regular basis. Is this person addicted - yes, but he isnt spending all his entire money on gambling. Why in this case addiction is considered as positive? Honestly speaking I dont know, but at least such person is busy gambling, instead of doing something bad.

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Gambling is not a bad thing or habit, but falling into addiction can be disastrous financially and psychologically.
Gambling addiction is different from any profitable addiction. Therefore, it does not have a positive but a negative impact on our lives and behaviors. In fact, nobody aims to become addicted, but some gamblers let it happen because of misunderstandings and too much thinking.

Why do some gamblers commit bad loans, crimes, etc.? All of these things happen because of uncontrollable gambling habits (addiction), and as we see their lives, instead of seeing them improve, they are going down more. That is one of the negative side effects that may happen, and it will worsen as it continues.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 22, 2024, 09:53:10 AM

As the title reads, I want us to come to a reasonable conclusion about this addiction of a thing in gambling by arguing it back and forth. Many months ago, I was in an argument with a user about the fact that the addiction to gambling can't only be negative as many people portray it. I relied on the grounds that if some gamblers could regularly earn in sports betting, while others derive fun and take gambling as their hobby, are they not deriving a positive goal there? Is that not a positive addiction?

Yea people derive from gambling yet they also lose. its always a two sided ways like vise versa, meaning win/lose. and lose is more often than win that's why people always say that dey don't benefit in gambling. Emagine when you gamble %100, you lose %98 and win %5, how will you measure the ratio? It's gonna be quantified as more lose and it causes addiction because such person will still have that hope that he will win and may never win as expected and still he will get addicted. That's why people always say they don't benefit anything from gambling because it's almost impossible to gain anything from gambling when you lose often than win. So will you said you benefitted in gambling when you are constantly lossing? No. So in my humble opinion I will say those that hit a jackpot are those who have benefited or those that win a huge sum of money that is above their bankroll which they have used to stake for long. Then for the people you said they gamble for fun I will take it as an individual differences because I haven't seen who waste his money just to derive fun while there are lots of fun games online that don't require using of money.

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There are little upsides to going through a gambling addiction to say it can be viewed positively, and we already have a better term for it.

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 22, 2024, 09:53:10 AM

I further argued that everything mustn't have to be about money to make it positive or negative. Some kinds of gambling and gaming relieve stress in some people and give them the desired happiness. This goes a long way depending on the mindset we played it.

I'm with you on this part while the first part you mentioned about regularly earning through betting is just wishful thinking. It's always good to set a goal, but in gambling, it'll do more harm than good if you prioritize earnings that highly then it can potentially transition to chasing losses.

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I think the thing called gambling addiction will always only have negative impact and will never have positive impact even though it shows that gambling addicts get pleasure and satisfaction.
Pleasure or satisfaction is not positive impact because it is just feeling get when doing an activity like, it is not about money because gambling addict will always think that money is not everything and they will be willing to spend whatever.
Moreover, we can certainly know all the impacts and consequences of gambling addiction without exception, there will be no changes whatsoever because what is called addiction always has fatal consequences and triggers destruction in the future.
But there is one more thing that may always have different point of view from each person, hobbies and addictions have several differences, hobbies will always provide benefits and can also provide an advantage in itself, addiction does not provide all of that.

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