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Topic: CARBONCOIN: The Completely Carbon Neutral Cryptocurrency - page 43. (Read 76007 times)

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Hi all, I read through the recent Carb posts just yesterday, i've been busy this past week or so, and could only reply today. I want to clear something up for everyone:

My name is Olly i'm from London UK. I run AltCoinSpeculation.com a simple crypto blog, i'm also a member of the London Bitcoin meetup group, and I also organize the London Altcoin meetup group as well. http://altcoinspeculation.com/aboutcontact/


I met **** (axismundi) at a meetup a few months back, and when he mentioned he wanted to takeover the Carboncoin, as the original dev had disappeared, I offered to help out if I could. I'm not very techy. I did offer to pick up the domains and host them for him on my hosting account as it is unlimited and free for me. (I originally got my hosting package when i lived in Canada for one year several years back. I am back living in London UK, I hadn't bothered to update the hosting details, but have now. I'm sorry for the trouble this has caused). (If necessary these domains can be transfered to the carboncoin foundation once it's setup).

Other than this, I own a bit of Carb, I've blogged a bit about Carboncoin, and I know that the new devs now involved are committed to the coin and are working hard to make something great happen for the future. I'll also try and help out when and where i can, as lots of people are also already doing.


If you have further questions about this please just contact me directly [email protected], http://altcoinspeculation.com/aboutcontact/
(I'd also appreciate it if posters delete posts; #103, #104, #115, and don't paste personal info on this forum in the future without contacting me first..)
Thanks.


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The forest location was disclosed a long time ago.  Dev is British not Canadian, but his nationality is irrelevant.  Dev has been transparent about history of the coin and its development   Please step out of your delirium and stop repeating the same fallacies...or rather please keep posting and keep us on the front page...back to ignoring you.
legendary
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Answer the question maybe ?
i have taken the time to explain myself with out attacking each one of you personally like you guys keep doing to me endlessly..

So here we go again..
I will once again try and state my concern and hope to get some mature feedback on a fatal flaw i think is obvious with this coins concept.

And that is, how do you scale up the process of planting trees to coincide with mining another Scrypt clone coin with a new icon and name ?
Get it ? ..well don't worry every time i explain my self i repeat it again in a different way lol
So..
Lets put it this way, say for example a tree is planted for every guy that finds a block what would you do if it reach's Bitcoin's hashing levels ?
that is a lot of tree's to plant, directed by a guy from Canada to an online friend who claims to have a secret location to plant tree's somewhere in the UK..
(the domains we're registered in Canada for some reason so the dev coin cloner, icon changer *might be Canadian)

And i said that as an example of the concern i brought up because the dev Scrypt coin cloner could always just draw people in with things now and
phase out the tree planting later when it's convenient..
He would probably start cutting down the trees he says will be planted until that whole part of the idea is eliminated..
Obviously leaving him with a clone coin that become popular because of these environmentally friendly claims which are unique and a concern for us all.
So the current specifics of how it works right now is irrelevant and make no difference..

It's a classic routine here for coin cloners.. they can put a coin out and make changes to it over time to suit their ongoing advantage and interests.

So more name calling or is one of you going to man up and answer the question ?

And i'd appreciate if you didn't wait until i'm gone to try and bad mouth and discredit me when i'm not looking so you can push this on Wink
legendary
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Spoetdick You call me a liar,in bold, for saying you posted 4 posts in succession. Well i would say that 4 posts in 12 mins is in succession!!In succession means one after another and thats exactly what you did, just because someone managed to get a word in edgeways dosnt change that!  Why should and why would anyone take you seriously when you spout such hateful and factually inaccurate crap!!!? You obviously can’t handle it that no one is listening to you or takes you seriously!! You seem to think just cause youv been here since mid 2014 we should all listen to you and that whatever you say is correct! And now because Coindesk are interested in what Carboncoin is doing they must be part of the conspiracy and/or friends of the Canadian dev, who isn’t even from Canada as has been stated many times but you obviously don’t choose to listen or research, your way or the highway eh!!??  Your on a fukin ego trip and your making a complete fool of yourself and not just here!!! I would fuck off with what little dignity you may still have!
legendary
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spiddick dont you get it??? No one is interested in your crap. However humurous it may at times be it is boring and no one thinks your clever! Havent you got something better to do! There are so many real scam coins out there, go and waste someone elses time!!
legendary
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i brought up a real issue that every one of you ignored out right.
you all then decided to attack me.. again

can you guys not read or what ?
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Always think of this when i see Global Warming deniers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrahQpIWD08
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I see there were a few climate change deniers responding to the coindesk article. I didn't expect that we would come up against this level of ignorance. I thought the crypto community would be more enlightened.  Will we will be debating evolution next?
legendary
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Official Zeitcoin community ambassador

We have enough saplings planted currently to cope with 60x our current carbon footprint. We will be forking to PoS once we have got sufficient takeup from the mining community, or as and when our footprint is near to exceeding that which we have offset already.

Please donate to help the cause. It will be a great thing if it works.

Great news AM! I'm going to do some more mining when I get home from work, and I am very much on the verge of dumping the rest of my Doge for Carb. Forking to POS is a great idea as it will help cut down on power consumption as well.
legendary
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I used to somewhat enjoy reading his diatribes. But they are all pretty much the same now. Insult, talk about how knowledgeable he is, insult some more, call every coin that he doesn't invest in a scam, insult some more... wash, rinse, repeat. Booooorrrriiiiiinnngggg!!
legendary
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wow 4 posts in succession from sputdick, hes frothing at the mouth, seems like he knows hes getting beaten and is ramping up hes laughable trolling efforts!! So funny!

address what i said rather than insulting me personally maybe ? because all you did was make yourself look bad not me.. congrats lol

and no i have never ever posted 4 times in succession so your lying outright ! unlike many of the kids here i care about the size of the forums DB.
if we spam the site to much they will have to make changes such as i believe they had to remove the giveaways because people abused it and
it ended up bloating the forum with excessive amounts of forum posts.. the same with useless comments like posting "reserved"
you see i act like an adult surrounded by selfish mouthy stupid greedy name calling brats.

PS: This coin is pure bs !
I don't see how anyone could come up with the idea and actually think that they would *honestly be able to plant tree's to match the clone coin mining.
It's simply not possible.. as more users potentially got on board the more trees that would need to be planted..
which is obviously a problem with anyone with have a brain.. demand would outpace capacity on the so called secret location by a UK friend lol
And i think the dev masked cloner knew this all along but decided to make a scrypt clone and try and sucker people in anyway..
If you people are that gullible or corrupt that you want to support this Scrypt clone coin then go ahead.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you, the most ignored person in this section of the forums!

Honestly as long as the coin isn't some crap that's just pre-mined entirely so the devs can make a quick buck, I see no problem with it.
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We have enough saplings planted currently to cope with 60x our current carbon footprint. We will be forking to PoS once we have got sufficient takeup from the mining community, or as and when our footprint is near to exceeding that which we have offset already.

Please donate to help the cause. It will be a great thing if it works.
sr. member
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**Sighs.

Nice one zebedee, great nickname for him, hope that catches on.

Ignore Spoetnik using the button on the left, it makes your life better.
legendary
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wow 4 posts in succession from sputdick, hes frothing at the mouth, seems like he knows hes getting beaten and is ramping up hes laughable trolling efforts!! So funny!

address what i said rather than insulting me personally maybe ? because all you did was make yourself look bad not me.. congrats lol

and no i have never ever posted 4 times in succession so your lying outright ! unlike many of the kids here i care about the size of the forums DB.
if we spam the site to much they will have to make changes such as i believe they had to remove the giveaways because people abused it and
it ended up bloating the forum with excessive amounts of forum posts.. the same with useless comments like posting "reserved"
you see i act like an adult surrounded by selfish mouthy stupid greedy name calling brats.

PS: This coin is pure bs !
I don't see how anyone could come up with the idea and actually think that they would *honestly be able to plant tree's to match the clone coin mining.
It's simply not possible.. as more users potentially got on board the more trees that would need to be planted..
which is obviously a problem with anyone with have a brain.. demand would outpace capacity on the so called secret location by a UK friend lol
And i think the dev masked cloner knew this all along but decided to make a scrypt clone and try and sucker people in anyway..
If you people are that gullible or corrupt that you want to support this Scrypt clone coin then go ahead.
sr. member
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So, got in touch with Danny Bradbury the journalist who is doing the series on the carbon footprint of bitcoin via twitter - had a skype interview and our efforts got mentioned in today's article! Pretty amazing to be mentioned in such an awesome publication in the space!

Would be good for people to find out that per kilo of absorbed CO2 we are much cheaper in fiat terms than anyone else offering anything similar, in terms of tree longevity in a protected environment.

When we get sufficient Carboncoin donations in the donations wallet in percentage terms, I will dispense with my anonymity and go to the press with this personally. The opportunity in supporting the takeup and use of Carboncoin as a currency is that we are able to offset the carbon footprint of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies using the same mechanism which created the value in them in the first place.


If everyone bought some Carboncoin and donated half to the Carboncoin donation wallet we would be able to pay for the offset of the carbon footprint of cryptocurrencies, at the same time as allowing everyone to make money in the process - provided people also got on board with assisting the infrastructure too.


This is not a tax, this is exactly the opposite!



Can I also just say that anyone taking any power from the grid is using power, where anyone says that comes from is not relevent in terms of cost to the environment.
You use 1kWh of electricity from the grid, paying a renewable energy supplier, you stop anyone else using electricity from the grid using that kWh of renewable energy and cause them to use one from a coal burner.

Creating environmentally friendly energy sources brings the total damage caused by everyone using electricity down in percentage terms alone. Using electricity is using electricity. Wasting it is wasting it. If you use electricity from the grid, you use electricity period. If you insulate yourself from the grid, using just your own renewable energy source, then you aren't really being part of the solution are you? Society must take responsibility for the impact of all its members.

AM
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I traded up 100 Doge for Carb yesterday on coined up. I only utilized that small amount of Doge because it was my first time trading on an exchange and I didn't really know what I was doing. But hey, I kinda sorta have it figured out now, and the transactions were pretty much instantaneous, so that's good. I might trade up a few more of my Doges today just to get some more market activity, however insignificant it may be. I don't exactly have a lot of Doge, or Carb for that matter (less than 200K), but I'm trying!
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Have always maintained that the Carbon Footprint of crypto is just the starting block. I have yet to discuss my PoS model on here yet as am seeking help with development, but this needs to get its value first which means getting it out there one way or another and having to deal with a bit of mining. This coin is designed as a rapid value generation tool, and that is what I am endeavouring to use it as for the benefit of the environment. When mining becomes a problem and we fork to PoS it will still be a currency, the same as bitcoin and litecoin, but one having had a genuine bonafide positive effect on the environment. Once a million trees have been planted the Carboncoin carbon dioxide sequestered will be ~1Gtonne. Another 600k trees and we have 1.6GTonnes == 10 CARB per kilo of CO2, x10 == 1 CARB per kilo of CO2, point is if we do it this way it is unlimited what we can achieve.
legendary
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Miners selling low from the outset is nothing more than an opportunity for buyers, and the fairest/most natural form of distribution we could get IMO. Buyers bear in mind: how valuable Carboncoin gets is a direct function of how much of the currency we allocate to our benevolent operations. The sensible strategy is to buy, hold half, give half to the offset fund.

I will say again, if anyone wants to buy an amount greater than 1BTC worth, provided you donate, I am happy to assist you. Whether that be telling you how to do it or fulfilling your order myself. We are currently sitting at just over 60M in the donations wallet. I will not be seeking attention from the media until this is over 160M or 1% of our total coins. I would like it to be significantly more than that in percentage terms.

Pool ops: I am drafting an email to send to the mining community requesting support through donation or otherwise, and would be grateful if you could forward this on. I will be contacting you directly in due course with this.

Remember, the more of this coin in percentage terms that is donated to benevolent operations the more valuable the remainder will become. It's a great trade. I think 10% of holdings is a sensible donation to anyone with a lot of them. All donors will be added to the leaderboard, and the funds will not be moved until it is appropriate to do so, when they will be released back to the market responsibly, in tranches of no more than 1M.

In other news - is anyone out there of a graphic design ilk? We are having a competition to design a new logo. Please see the new forum to enter that and for other jobs we have on. http://coinstack.org/index.php?board=20.0. We will be putting the rebrand to a vote once we have at least two more suggestions.

I'm not arguing against miners selling the coin. I'm pointing out that there are way too many coins sitting on exchanges and no movement, and this needs to be remedied or all the PR work and press coverage in the world won't make any difference.

Actually there is only less than 390,000,000 CARB sitting for sale on Cryptorush and an insignificant amount on coined up!!! What we need is to get the message out and to get on more exchanges!!
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Thank you for the constructive comments. I can totally see the potential for trading carboncredits using this technology, not only that I have thought long and hard about how to do it. The key thing here is that I believe the Carboncoin needs to be a currency to allow the environment to take advantage of the astonishing capital growth that can be provided. I am not looking for a platform for a 1 to 1 exchange for fiat money to trees here, I am looking to create a reservoir of Carboncoin which will be able to provide many times the offset donated in Carboncoin, this is how I feel we can have the impact I am looking for. This is why it is so essential for people holding a significant amount of them to put some in the donations wallet.

Trees planted for permanent forestry on trusted land both in the US and the UK will be cared for and left for as long as they live - this sequesters a lot more Carbon Dioxide than a 15 year operation. Once the quota of over a million trees have been planted in this first stage of the project we will certainly be looking for other opportunities and I will definitely consider your operation if I feel it is fully quantifiable and a suitable arrangement can be made as to reinvestment of some portion of the profit to other offsetting operations, or if we can multiply our firepower by combining with any exisiting subsidy operations, as we will look to do with the first sites. We would also need to complete a risk assessment of the political landscape among other things, before taking on any new project in the developing world.

Directly funding offsetting projects, completely bypassing NGO's etc, is certainly my aim. If we plant as much permanent forestry as I want to long term as well as creating permanently self sustaining carbon sink ecosystems, we will be able to make a real difference here.

Our costs for equivalent Carbon Credit offset will always be a fraction of that of going through the mainstream, and we will be able to provide an indication of the weight in Carbon that is to be absorbed by the individual donations we receive. I will publish a separate figure of the total we actually manage to offset through the currency [100% of the proceeds from the donations wallet will be spent on direct offset] and by keeping this a currency not attached to anything, this should absolutely dwarf any actual investment made, provided we do what is necessary to stimulate usuage of Carboncoin as a medium of exchange.
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