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donator
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I would recommend NOT sending donations to the coin.  This would be giving them reasons to take the coin down.  Likewise, I would recommend leaving them alone!

It is very nice that they chose to display this coin.  Please don't make them regret it.  They are likely doing so as part of an exhibit on the history of money, not because they want to use their good name to endorse Bitcoin.  If their choice to display it comes with a paparazzi, or a perceived legal or accounting burden (the same way if I mailed a coin to the EFF and put the address in a forum post that said "look everybody donate to the EFF through this coin") or they start to feel like they're being made into a billboard, the only thing that could do is motivate them to take it down.

I think they should even put a little live-display below the coin showing the balance in real-time.

They put it on display and bitcoin is something refreshingly new amongst all these old silver coins. Why hide that fact?

This coin is alive!

I don't really share your concerns. The value of other stuff in their collection probably changes over time, too. I honor the fact that you donated the coins to them and will follow your recommendation and not send any MORE donation than I already sent and I will not pester them with more emails. After all, you made this happen and I don't want to risk spoiling it.


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I would recommend NOT sending donations to the coin.  This would be giving them reasons to take the coin down.  Likewise, I would recommend leaving them alone!

It is very nice that they chose to display this coin.  Please don't make them regret it.  They are likely doing so as part of an exhibit on the history of money, not because they want to use their good name to endorse Bitcoin.  If their choice to display it comes with a paparazzi, or a perceived legal or accounting burden (the same way if I mailed a coin to the EFF and put the address in a forum post that said "look everybody donate to the EFF through this coin") or they start to feel like they're being made into a billboard, the only thing that could do is motivate them to take it down.

Well it's an exhibition on the evolution of money & it's them who have posted the public address on their own collection website so if ppl wish to send to it then they will, that is part of the experiment of this new tech, I've dealt with them a lot in the past on various issues like authentication & commissioning photos of their objects & they are most cool, I can only see them being amused & intrigued by the purported value of their exhibit increasing, they won't open it to cash out anyway so treat it as fun & good PR, they also won't pull it from the exhibit as if they did that would give way more publicity & just make them look petty/silly - which they certainly are not.

But you are right in that any coins sent to it aren't a donation to them as such, they won't redeem them, but more of just adding value to the item that they have which I can't see them having any problem with, in countries like Thailand when images of the Buddha etc were being cast ppl who wished to add their input to the statue or object would throw gold jewellery/coins & silver in to the vat of molten bronze more as a symbolic act than otherwise though also a genuine sacrifice from them but when sufficient did so this can be seen in the final object to great effect & to me this is a version of that & something that they will be more than capable of appreciating.

It is in this sense that I sent coins to an address they showed as being that of one of their of their first bitcoin acquisitions/exhibits, I doubt that it will trouble them.
vip
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
I would recommend NOT sending donations to the coin.  This would be giving them reasons to take the coin down.  Likewise, I would recommend leaving them alone!

It is very nice that they chose to display this coin.  Please don't make them regret it.  They are likely doing so as part of an exhibit on the history of money, not because they want to use their good name to endorse Bitcoin.  If their choice to display it comes with a paparazzi, or a perceived legal or accounting burden (the same way if I mailed a coin to the EFF and put the address in a forum post that said "look everybody donate to the EFF through this coin") or they start to feel like they're being made into a billboard, the only thing that could do is motivate them to take it down.
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Edit: Cool that one can see the addresses of the 4 donated to them on the large BM inventory pics, I will send them a few Satoshis or coins to 1NyVMo79Vanhbu92MpPQgCbu9MDV5a4NhW when next drinking & feeling flush.

FirstBits: 1P5mrivM for 1P5mrivMGaLoXiMjJmN56sBsyANEYiw3mE <- REDEEMED
FirstBits: 1NyQJk2W for 1NyQJk2Wh1YVnp6pxpBux4W35TFyd4Avpj
FirstBits: 1NyVMo79 for 1NyVMo79Vanhbu92MpPQgCbu9MDV5a4NhW   <--- visible on their display
FirstBits: 1Caqfyjn is in a different style which seems harder to make it out but finally got it for 1Caqfyjn3KigaSPFdcYrjJqjpYZoXvxCPz

good choice to send to 1NyVMo79. Stupid me sent to the coin that had been redeemed already (see my previous post).


Just sent their display coin a 1 btc + Satoshis donation, I know of no other items that they display where this can be done so easily & openly - I would encourage more donations to this address:

https://blockchain.info/tx/ea89dc6b9cb9b7417d58a92fa6c2c329864fbda1ceafe893872ff687b4304ee6

https://blockchain.info/address/1NyVMo79Vanhbu92MpPQgCbu9MDV5a4NhW
donator
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It has been a while to remember for certain, but I could see myself likely having sent them a peeled specimen, knowing they'd be unlikely to want to destroy a specimen themselves just to see what was inside.

In such a case, I'd have deliberately funded the coin and then removed the funds myself.

Knowing the date, I'd have done it from MtGox, the only decent option available at the time, which remembers private keys and sweeps new incoming balances.  So I probably have 0.01234567 or whatever in my MtGox account now (or whatever the date of that transaction was).

that explains it. also: you have 2 x 0.01234567, because I accidentally sent twice Wink. I'm really making too many mistakes today and should not touch my wallet any more for now Wink.

EDIT: Mike, consider that money a donation, please.
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Edit: Cool that one can see the addresses of the 4 donated to them on the large BM inventory pics, I will send them a few Satoshis or coins to 1NyVMo79Vanhbu92MpPQgCbu9MDV5a4NhW when next drinking & feeling flush.

FirstBits: 1P5mrivM for 1P5mrivMGaLoXiMjJmN56sBsyANEYiw3mE <- REDEEMED
FirstBits: 1NyQJk2W for 1NyQJk2Wh1YVnp6pxpBux4W35TFyd4Avpj
FirstBits: 1NyVMo79 for 1NyVMo79Vanhbu92MpPQgCbu9MDV5a4NhW   <--- visible on their display
FirstBits: 1Caqfyjn is in a different style which seems harder to make it out but finally got it for 1Caqfyjn3KigaSPFdcYrjJqjpYZoXvxCPz

good choice to send to 1NyVMo79. Stupid me sent to the coin that had been redeemed already (see my previous post).
vip
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
It has been a while to remember for certain, but I could see myself likely having sent them a peeled specimen, knowing they'd be unlikely to want to destroy a coin themselves just to see what was inside.

In such a case, I'd have deliberately funded the coin and then removed the funds myself.

Knowing the date, I'd have done it from MtGox, the only decent option available at the time, which remembers private keys and sweeps new incoming balances.  So I probably have 0.01234567 or whatever in my MtGox account now (or whatever the date of that transaction was).
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Awesome. They are asking for additional info on the object, so I sent them the following email:

Quote from: email from molec to british museum
TO: [email protected]
SUBJECT: Feedback on object record (CJE305673)

Dear British Museum,

I am very happy you own a Casascius Physical Bitcoin (your collection ID: CJE305673) and currently display it to the public.

I have additional information regarding the coin:

 * The hologram is printed with a so-called firstbits address: 1P5mrivM
 * The public Address of this coin (it is functionally a so-called "offline bitcoin wallet") is: 1P5mrivMGaLoXiMjJmN56sBsyANEYiw3mE
 * The current balance of the coin can be seen here: http://blockchain.info/address/1P5mrivMGaLoXiMjJmN56sBsyANEYiw3mE
 * The coin has received 2 transactions of amount BTC 0.01234567 each on November 4th 2012.
 * The balance as of November 4th 2012 is: BTC 1.02469134

I would be happy if you could add this information (or parts of it) to your database.

thanks again,
molecular


EDIT: what the crap?!? The coin was redeemed (way back in 2011 or earlier). I didn't notice this ;|

I guess Mike gave them a coin that had the hologram peeled off. One can even see that in the pic: http://www.britishmuseum.org/collectionimages/AN01156/AN01156701_001_l.jpg

I misinformed them. I sent them another e-mail correcting my info.

It seems Mike (or whoever has the private key) is running a bot of some sort that passes on any bitcoins sent to the invalidated coin?

legendary
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Ordered my first 2 casascius bitcoins. Can't wait to receive them!
donator
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Excellent! I visited their history of money through the ages exhibition, which btw is permanent & not just a temporary exhibition though it evolves as they add stuff & I noticed the lack of any Bitcoin reference or samples whilst visiting London last August & having just bought some Casascius coins from molecular & others had thought to donate some to that department - I didn't get around to it that visit but it's much better to have come from Casascius himself in any case, it would be nice if they had the full range of Cas coins issued, if I am able to afford a 1 Oz gold 1,000 btc one day then I would be happy to loan it if insured to them & if a sufficiently tamper proof container could be made to house it inside their already secure display cabinets so that no staff/researchers could peel the hologram.

Edit: Cool that one can see the addresses of the 4 donated to them on the large BM inventory pics, I will send them a few Satoshis or coins to 1NyVMo79Vanhbu92MpPQgCbu9MDV5a4NhW when next drinking & feeling flush.

FirstBits: 1P5mrivM for 1P5mrivMGaLoXiMjJmN56sBsyANEYiw3mE   <--- has been peeled to redeem & show the private key (edit)
FirstBits: 1NyQJk2W for 1NyQJk2Wh1YVnp6pxpBux4W35TFyd4Avpj
FirstBits: 1NyVMo79 for 1NyVMo79Vanhbu92MpPQgCbu9MDV5a4NhW   <--- visible on their display
FirstBits: 1Caqfyjn is in a different style which seems harder to make it out but finally got it for 1Caqfyjn3KigaSPFdcYrjJqjpYZoXvxCPz

The one shown on display is 1NyVMo79, they have big barrels for fiat donations around the place but may also like the idea of accepting bitcoins too sent to their sample for all to see & could put up a QR code to scan for this maybe if ppl requested it & even perhaps a tablet or something to display it's blockchain balance.
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firstbits:1MinerQ
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Former curator of The Bitcoin Museum
nice
donator
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From another thread, thought I'ld cc: post here.

The British Museum is hosting an exhibition on the history of money around the world (http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/galleries/themes/room_68_money.aspx).

I came across this little gem there:



seriously?!? This is fucking great!
legendary
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From another thread, thought I'ld cc: post here.

The British Museum is hosting an exhibition on the history of money around the world (http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/galleries/themes/room_68_money.aspx).

I came across this little gem there:

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I am the one who knocks
I love my BTC1 coin...I keep it in my wallet and I've shown everyone for months. At a quiz bowl tournament I volunteered it for a toin coss...they were confused  Wink Saving my bitcoins to purchase the silver BTC10.
I keep a blank one in my pocket for flipping.  Makes a nice *ting* noise.
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I love my BTC1 coin...I keep it in my wallet and I've shown everyone for months. At a quiz bowl tournament I volunteered it for a toin coss...they were confused  Wink Saving my bitcoins to purchase the silver BTC10.
legendary
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Great photo, looks fantastic.  Physical shiny discs definitely stir the hoarding/collecting hormones much more than bits on a hard drive.

Wow nice selection. I think i'll be making a few purchases soon Smiley
vip
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
By and large, I am presently sending more physical bitcoins to Finland than anywhere else in the world.  Very interesting!
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Great photo, looks fantastic.  Physical shiny discs definitely stir the hoarding/collecting hormones much more than bits on a hard drive.
donator
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Edit: And for a size comparison for Europeans, there's the €2 and €0.05 coin.

That's quite a beautiful collection.

Some day my coin collector buddies are going to wonder why they didn't act on my recommendation to grab a couple of these while they are still:

 a.) using
"early coins" (funded with transactions in 2011 and 2012)
and
 b.) still being made (e.g., Rev 1 of the One BTC coins are either done or near done being produced, as far as I know -- or at least of a limited quantity for a "key date"/first release.)

Whilst at the BTC Conf in London last month I tried to interest one of the oldest coin auction houses there that I've been a client of for a long time in putting some of these in a sale, like a full series from the 1,000 BTC 1 Oz gold coin downwards but they didn't see any of their collectors probably being interested atm, I expect though that in the future early mint Casascius complete series sets could be quite sort after.
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