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Quote from: Zilon on September 20, 2022, 06:42:34 PM

What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates.

this is an interesting discussion for me about gambling in nevada prisons, i often read how the process and reputation of the casinos there, about the safety for inmates who bet and commit fraud or malicious acts.

I used to think how the casinos in prisons could run smoothly and safely and were regulated to run well, but my worries were answered after reading and seeing the rules that were enforced in prisons, as I quote below.

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Any concerns about cheating taking place were unlikely to be justified. Prisoners found guilty of cheating would have faced severe consequences from their fellow inmates. They would have likely needed to be transferred to an out-of-state prison for their own safety and well-being.

But it's not the security, betting or stuff about the casino that interests me, the quote below is the most interesting I've seen the coins they bet in the casino that got me thumbs up about casinos in the state of Nevada.

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Interestingly, the prison casino also had its own form of currency. These came in prisoner exchange coins in denominations of 5c, 10c, 25c, 50c, $1, and $5.

The Casino In Nevada State Prison

The most memorable betting coin for me.

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Quote from: Saisher on September 21, 2022, 07:57:05 AM

Quote from: Zilon on September 20, 2022, 06:42:34 PM

It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.

I'm sure it was closed down because there are corruption and the inmates become addicted and they had to ask for money from their relatives and they had to do something from other inmates who can afford to gamble for them to get money, there's no way it will open again, officials might use these inmates to commit crime for them so they can give them money to gamble and besides correctional should be a place to mend their ways not for them to become addicted to gambling.

It's evident that it won't change the prisoners for good, so it should be stop. And yes, they could be addicted to it and when they come out, they might just continue with their gambling habits and maybe be back in the correctional facilities if they committed a crime. Or just intentionally, be caught and thrown back and then they can continue with their gambling. So it doesn't bring good and it should be stop and that's what they did. And imagine if modern prisons have this one, Lol.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 20, 2022, 06:42:34 PM

It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.

They cannot do it in a modern correctional system like what we have today, there are corruption why they did not let it continus they actually breeding new criminals after the sentence is fullfil, those prisoners who entered without record of being addictive to gambling will have new problems when they got out of the correctional, and they will go back to their criminal way just to sustain their addiction, casinos should bemonitored by the government, because there are many crimes associated to gambling and the government is spending millions of dollars to rehabilitate these gamnbling addicts.

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Quote from: Oceat on September 20, 2022, 07:59:28 PM

I'm curious too though, what if prisons have casino inside?
What do you think, OP?
I only have seen this kind of gambling den in some movies inside the prison although it has something to do with the who's the Boss inside like there's a mafia or something and he's using his power like money to bribe all of the people inside and even on the outside world. I don't know if it does still exist nowadays but what kind of powerful man would do that inside the prison?

I think there's a lot of explaining to the warden if they get caught having a casino inside the prison.

When it comes to local gambling amongst this inmates i think those are common, wardens have little or nothing to do to stop them but for casinos which requires Branding, Hardwares, finance we might have to keep the bank as substitute but in all casinos require so much fundings the reason license and government regulation needs an upper hand to decide if it gets allowed or not within prisons.

In Nevada prison where casino was first sighted the tolerance from the Nevada Government somehow increased their criminal history but on the other hand revenue can be generated for the welfare of this inmates this way just like what happened in Nevada prison where a percentage of the take was deposited in the inmates welfare funds.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 20, 2022, 06:42:34 PM

It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.

I'm sure it was closed down because there are corruption and the inmates become addicted and they had to ask for money from their relatives and they had to do something from other inmates who can afford to gamble for them to get money, there's no way it will open again, officials might use these inmates to commit crime for them so they can give them money to gamble and besides correctional should be a place to mend their ways not for them to become addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 20, 2022, 06:42:34 PM

What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates.

Is there a benefit if ever they will be given a legitimate casino license? Casinos inside the prison are illegal, that casino on Nevada prison were just able to operate for many years because the jail guards ignored them since it doesn't harm the inmates inside.

Even if they do it for a good cause like the profit goes for someone who will be released on parole to use it as funds on his new life, authorities will never grant them a license since they have criminal records.

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Gambling in different forms is prevalent in many correctional homes and centers, in unofficial modes and word of mouth. Therefore it is not surprising to see more such events happening again and again.

I am not sure about the addiction tendencies of such inmates, it is expected to be higher than the normal population and whether this is a good practice.

Still it can be a source of entertainment and fun if done within limits by inmates.

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Non sense idea and not ideal to do. If the casino is for only the prisoners without any outside influence, then it should be okey as it will help the prisoners to experience something unique which a lot of other prisoners don't get to experience. Good for a social experiment.

But there are multiple downsides to it. Prisoners can quickly develop a habit of gambling which can continue even after that person is released from prison. That might not become an ideal example for an ex prisoner.

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Throughout its 35 years, various wardens either tolerated the casino or considered it a worthwhile distraction for the inmates.

I kind of agree with this disposition, I wonder why it was stopped, maybe to checkmate corruption and foul play in the prison. But casino's in prison would have made prison experience easier to bear for inmates and can have a positive effect on them by promoting their social life, if done under a properly regulated condition. Prisoners need to be kept busy and occupied throughout their prison sentence. Maybe the authorities can reconsider and have a schedule for it alongside the other activities in the prison. Real money doesn't have to be used, prisoners can just play the game.

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Quote from: traderethereum on September 21, 2022, 02:13:43 AM

I guess gambling in prisons existed before but no one knows about it because the inmates and wardens don't tell outsiders.

It's known to the outside world back then, it's that their is no regulator that time and all decision are in the shoulder of the warden and the county's sheriff.

Quote from: traderethereum on September 21, 2022, 02:13:43 AM

And if the in-prison casinos reopen, it could create addiction problems that can afflict many inmates because they will see that gambling is a pleasure they can have while serving their sentence.
The government needs to be aware of this so they need to think twice before making a decision.
But the casino inside the prison shouldn't be allowed to not cause new problems for the inmates.

It won't open because the law forbids it already. Before that, yes it is legalized in Nevada but there is no control. But once the law mandated that gambling is going to be prohibited inside prison, then the place was destroyed by the newly appointed warden and will not be revived anytime soon.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 20, 2022, 06:42:34 PM

It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.

Well, if it's just for leisure purposes, I probably agree on that but if it involves something at stake like money or other stuff, that's a no-no. Prison was made for people that has done something wrong in their lifetime and atone for it but if they'll get addicted once again because of gambling it's another thing the authorities are probably looking at. I think it's best to know why they got defeated in the first place and these days that's probably gonna be rare considering how huge media to discuss almost everything.

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I believe that prisoners should almost constantly think about why they are restricted from society, and not have fun, so a casino in prison does not fit into my understanding of the punishment system. I understand when a prison has a library, gym, TV, radio, but a casino is too much. We give part of our tax payments for the maintenance of these people, I don't think they deserve entertainment.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 21, 2022, 02:13:23 AM

Prisons should focus on removing "criminals" from the street and then rehabilitating them to fit back into the "normal" society. It should not be a Hotel with a casino on the tax payers account.

Even though gambling is not legal in prisons, it still happens ...and it is causing a lot of problems between inmates. They gamble for soap/food/cigarettes ...etc and when someone lose their belongings, fights erupt very quickly ....and people get hurt.

Let's rather pay taxes for criminals to be rehabilitated ...and to change them into people that can contribute positively to the society. Wink

It is quite a old article this was those days that the government had never taken gambling so serious to the extent of having it in the prison for criminals to gamble with funds. This cam not be in existence again and the government would never take it seriously for this kind of casino to be available in the prison. This is a alone can cause violence which can trigger conflict within prison inmate. Time had passed for such to happen happen again looking at how strict prison law and enforcement are meant to make prisoners relinquish from anything that can cause arm among inmates.

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Maybe this will be a new thing in some prisons because they have no experience of having a casino in prison. But surely, there will be other problems in prison because playing gambling can make them addicted to gambling. Instead of prison as a place to get punishment, they can get other problems after getting out of prison. I think the government might not agree if some people propose this because the government is giving prison sentences so they don't repeat their actions. And although it may seem like entertainment for the inmates, it is not good entertainment because it can lead to addiction problems.

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Some gambling are related to crimes.. so? Why would a prison allow this to happen? It'll only received a bad reputation and people distrusting losses respect to the authority.
Prisons is supposed to be a place where people who committed crimes pay the prices of what they have done. It's not a place where a criminal finds another heaven.
So, what's gonna be next? Prisons allowing strippers to perform from cell to cell? Nah, it's getting ridiculous.

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Earlier came to know about this through the funny facts on gambling thread. During those days inmates might've used it as a source to get relaxation. Maybe for that reason the casino operated within the prison hadn't encountered any problem from the prisoners as well as the wardens. In today's world it is quite hard to have such access.

In today's world if such access is given, people who are into the prison for some crime will not learn to survive life but they might once again fall to other form of addiction.

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The prisoners won't need a casino in order to play gambling games. They could play poker or dice without a licensed casino.
Is it so difficult to get a deck of cards or dices? The prisoners can play non-gambling games like chess and backgammon as well. Grin

The main question is "What's the point of having a licensed casino inside a prison?" Does a prison casino have an educational purpose or the prisoners would just play for fun and waste their time? This seems like a proven way to not let some gambling addicts in prison get rid of their addiction. It doesn't look like a good idea to me.

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A casino in a prison would surely bring entertainment to the prisoners but there is a big problem.We are not in 1932 to 1967 anymore and the prisoners of nowadays have committed worst crimes compared to those years,the aggressiveness now is much higher and people don't like to lose money.A sure thing would be that if slots were allowed from the anger the prisoners would destroy the machines or even worst if they are playing roulette or dice as these games can bring fight between the prisoners starting a mess.

The idea is good but the implementation in such place I think for nowadays is impossible.

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Having casinos in a prison could be an interesting idea to make live more exciting for inmates. This has some problems that could arise if it would be allowed in all countries, because the casino would need a gambling licence and also regulators who make sure that the games are fair. The big question would be if the casinos are owned by the prison company or by external companies. The casino should only be available for good prisoners who are not violating prison rules, like that it would be another motivation for prisoners to behave. And since many prisons offer inmates the opportunity to work they would already have funds to bet with in the casinos. Maybe casinos could work with more than just money. I know that trading with goods like Ramen, Chocolate Bars and other goodies is very big in prison. So inmates might have the chance to exchange these goods for tokens to be used in the casino.

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I feel like this is pretty much possible considering money and effort need to sustain it. But considering the fact that prisons are filled with trouble people, gambling inside may create huge issues. They may have fights. Its best to leave this out of prisons.
I can't come up with anything different. I mean someone may suggest that prisoners may be workers of casino and people from outside can play but, its still prone to many problems. Hard to say its okay.

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