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August 28, 2023, 10:38:57 PM
However if the stream is live and they win too often then it gets to a point in which such a thing becomes an impossibility, further indicating that they are gambling with modified odds in order to make it seem as if anyone can win at that casino, but if their viewers tried to do the same then they will only lose their money.

Did you know that casinos can set certain users to have continuous wins? i don't know about it. I often watch slot streamers on YouTube, and I watch it live, they also lose a lot before the wins come. But I'm not sure if the streamers use real money because they have a balance of about $3000 every live and it happens every day. I don't believe anyone can gamble with that kind of money on a daily basis, unless it's just a bogus balance given out by the casino. What's more, slot games are greedy for money, depleting our bankroll very quickly


It would not surprise me if some casinos did something like that, I mean the only thing they need to do is to offer them a special version of their app or change the odds for this user in particular and then that user will win more often than not.

Now those are my suspicions but in truth this could be proven if we made an effort to do so, this could be done by checking all their streams and then gather all their results and then determine if those are results they could have gotten by chance, and if this is not the case then we could determine how unlikely it was for them to experiment those results.
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August 24, 2023, 07:41:56 AM
Here I found a list of Top 10 Casino Slot Streamers which includes Corinna Kopf ,Tyler Faraz Niknamm, Flávio Fernandes and many others.

Do you guys follow the casino streamers and are they fun to watch? Or do you think that playing casino slots yourself is more fun?

While these streamers may earn a good amount of money through streaming, they sometimes may become inspirational to the gamblers which may lead the normal gamblers to gamble more or become addicted too in some cases.

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I think the biggest problem with casino streamers is that nobody can guarantee whether what happens on their stream is legit. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe there is really no way to know for sure whether anything is rigged and the fact that the casino streams are among the world's best paid promotions for streamers and influencers make it only less trustworthy. Are they even playing with their own money? Does it matter when they lose 100k because they get 500k for a streaming night? I don't know, I don't find it particularly entertaining to be honest.
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August 24, 2023, 04:29:42 AM
      -       I only know one streamer there and that's Roshtein, often if it's livestreamed using stakes.com that's why the stakes casino even though they have paid streamers they know is a big factor and help in their business., and I also saw how this Roshtein gambled and was like a monster if he bet in the casino with bets.

and the rest of the streamers I don't know them anymore, but I know if other people in other countries and social media platforms know them. And those are a big help to the casinos they endorse.
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August 24, 2023, 03:30:44 AM
Yes I agree with you. Even though we already know that casinos have lots of tricks and promotions to get gamblers to play on their sites, we also know that playing gambling might make us run out of money but we still play gambling. Maybe because gambling gives a big chance of winning, so we keep playing and hope to get a big jackpot one day. Nothing forbids playing gambling, but as you said, we must be able to control our finances so we don't spend all of our money at gambling tables or on slot machines.
There's nothing wrong with playing gambling, as long as we can control ourselves in gambling and can stop before we run out of money. Maybe we can win from gambling, but we also have to remember that we can experience loss, so that's the point of having self-control that can prevent us from experiencing such great loss. We also can't expect to get a big win because it will depend on our luck that day and if indeed we can get big luck, we can get a big win too. The important thing is that we can keep our money so that it doesn't run out for gambling.
legendary
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August 23, 2023, 09:59:19 AM
However if the stream is live and they win too often then it gets to a point in which such a thing becomes an impossibility, further indicating that they are gambling with modified odds in order to make it seem as if anyone can win at that casino, but if their viewers tried to do the same then they will only lose their money.
Did you know that casinos can set certain users to have continuous wins? i don't know about it. I often watch slot streamers on YouTube, and I watch it live, they also lose a lot before the wins come. But I'm not sure if the streamers use real money because they have a balance of about $3000 every live and it happens every day. I don't believe anyone can gamble with that kind of money on a daily basis, unless it's just a bogus balance given out by the casino. What's more, slot games are greedy for money, depleting our bankroll very quickly
Well, I'm not sure if the casinos actually whitelist the streamers they are partnering up with so that they get fewer losses and more wins but I'm sure that the casinos add money into their accounts that they can use on their live streams so that people watch them gamble on the platform and more users join, and $3,000 is a very small amount, I've seen streamers gambling with about $40k or something and they would usually bet with high rolls which makes it more fun for the viewers.

Slots usually have a higher house edge compared to other gambling games and when a game has a higher house edge, we should know that we are not going to win a lot, and since slots provide the possibility of getting big wins, that's why it becomes more difficult to get wins from them.
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August 23, 2023, 07:38:58 AM
... And our job is to control ourselves well so we don't get tempted and end up following the streamer to gamble in the casino. We must be able to take good care of ourselves and stick to our plans in playing gambling to be responsible for what we will do in the casino.

Yes I agree with you. Even though we already know that casinos have lots of tricks and promotions to get gamblers to play on their sites, we also know that playing gambling might make us run out of money but we still play gambling. Maybe because gambling gives a big chance of winning, so we keep playing and hope to get a big jackpot one day. Nothing forbids playing gambling, but as you said, we must be able to control our finances so we don't spend all of our money at gambling tables or on slot machines.
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August 23, 2023, 06:03:54 AM
However if the stream is live and they win too often then it gets to a point in which such a thing becomes an impossibility, further indicating that they are gambling with modified odds in order to make it seem as if anyone can win at that casino, but if their viewers tried to do the same then they will only lose their money.
Did you know that casinos can set certain users to have continuous wins? i don't know about it. I often watch slot streamers on YouTube, and I watch it live, they also lose a lot before the wins come. But I'm not sure if the streamers use real money because they have a balance of about $3000 every live and it happens every day. I don't believe anyone can gamble with that kind of money on a daily basis, unless it's just a bogus balance given out by the casino. What's more, slot games are greedy for money, depleting our bankroll very quickly
The casino could do it to determine which users they will win to attract more users. And the casino could use the streamer they hired to help their strategy by providing live videos from the streamer including the winnings so that people will see it and be interested in visiting the casino. We also don't know whether the streamer used real money to win the game or used fake money to attract the attention of the people watching his streaming video. And our job is to control ourselves well so we don't get tempted and end up following the streamer to gamble in the casino. We must be able to take good care of ourselves and stick to our plans in playing gambling to be responsible for what we will do in the casino.
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August 23, 2023, 03:56:07 AM
Yes, this is exactly what's going on if we talk about established and honest gambling sites: some people lose much more than they expect, much more than the highest house edge imaginable,  to slots, or whatever they play there, because of bad luck. And then some of them think that the site is scamming them and streamers that promote that site are scammers.

sometimes this looks strange, viewers imitate what streamers do, which is clear that it's gambling, but in other days, they try it because they are seeing the wins amount from streamer. They don't think about the risks before they start, then accuse as scam in comments. I've also watched live gambling streaming, when the streamer won. Even though it's not their money though, I feel normal. Maybe when I watched it, the streamer was lucky. Of course, I didn't follow the streamer's directions to play at the place he was promoting, because for me, the place where I played was the most appropriate choice, because I would definitely be paid if I won. Watching them, just to know the game.
Curiosity, passion to win and also adrenaline will increase when someone watches a streaming broadcast about a slot game and the streamers win big.
From seeing that there are big wins that are easy and even happen several times, it makes everyone feel that it's so easy to get a win, while someone watching the broadcast doesn't think what is really being done to get the big win, like streamers using a special account that has been provided by the site or even streamers have spent quite a lot of money to bring up a large multiplier in each game session because slots can provide a large multiplier if the gambler has had a lot of spins done.
Now that's true because it's better to follow our own beliefs than to follow what is presented by every existing streamer.
sr. member
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August 22, 2023, 08:30:11 PM
However if the stream is live and they win too often then it gets to a point in which such a thing becomes an impossibility, further indicating that they are gambling with modified odds in order to make it seem as if anyone can win at that casino, but if their viewers tried to do the same then they will only lose their money.

Did you know that casinos can set certain users to have continuous wins? i don't know about it. I often watch slot streamers on YouTube, and I watch it live, they also lose a lot before the wins come. But I'm not sure if the streamers use real money because they have a balance of about $3000 every live and it happens every day. I don't believe anyone can gamble with that kind of money on a daily basis, unless it's just a bogus balance given out by the casino. What's more, slot games are greedy for money, depleting our bankroll very quickly

hero member
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August 22, 2023, 08:21:15 PM
Streamers do not have the same earning rate as regular users. That's why it's actually the streamers' constant winning that encourages people to play more and invest more money. When my streamers are on air, it is rare for them to lose money and you will almost always see them making a small profit.
Most streamers make sponsorship deals to promote the site and try to attract people with the balance that the site gives them in the style of "look how this site earns". Most publishers don't have a lot of money, of course, this varies from publisher to publisher, but we can say that they cover this money from the sponsors they receive.
When I see that I cannot help but to be suspicious about it, if the stream is not live then the profits can be simply attributed to the streamer editing the video and only showing to their viewers the clips in which they happen to win.

However if the stream is live and they win too often then it gets to a point in which such a thing becomes an impossibility, further indicating that they are gambling with modified odds in order to make it seem as if anyone can win at that casino, but if their viewers tried to do the same then they will only lose their money.
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August 22, 2023, 02:15:45 PM

Information. That's what you will get from them.
How much the ultimate multi-win can be. The patterns and the amount it will give when you hit it. And maybe learn how the game works. Those streamers are like tutorials on how to play the game but not how to win.

But strategy? You are right. I don't think so too. There's no such thing as a strategy in a casino base game. All of it is just relying on the RTP. Now, maximizing the amount to win during the RTP period is where we could take advantage of the gambling site. But knowing when it will come is a mystery. I have seen hundreds of losses in a streak with high-risk bets and sometimes it will just surprise you with a max multi-win.

Some people think the streamers will make you win,it’s just an tutorial was the hidden fact.Some gamblers thought streamers allow you to win,the steamers are the strategy to play the game.If you play the game without any strategies,then it most probably the loss for the game.The multiple bet will allow to make high win or high loss.But their are possibility for both the game,the gamblers should ready to face both scenario in the multiple bet.The high risk only allow the gamblers to get more win.Many gamblers may had an possibilities to come across 1000 losses in their entire experience and way to get away from the loss is more important.
legendary
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August 22, 2023, 01:59:37 PM
The chances of people winning there are not the same as your chances of winning because the broadcasters are given extra chances and free money so I don't take their winnings into account.No matter how much they win I'm not interested in it because I know there is a game in it.

If the money is sponsored, what's the connection to that on the streamer's winning rate? Streamers are playing the same algorithm same as users. There's no point in manipulating that part as they will just give dirt to their reputation as a streamer. Most gambling streamers are playing fair and square.

And just a correction, the majority of streamers are not really being sponsored. The money they are using came from their own pocket as what matter there is, they should attract more views on their stream as that will be the basis of their profit and revenue.

It just looks like these streamers have a good winning rate because they have a large bankroll which means more chances to hit that good winning. Since they can keep up their gambling session in the long run, they have the chance to get good winnings later on. But not all the time, streamers are lucky.

There's also a pre-recorded and live stream where on the former, only winnings are being published that's why it looks like they are always winning in reality. If you watch live stream, you will encounter gambling streamers that really losing as that was part of the entertainment.
Streamers do not have the same earning rate as regular users. That's why it's actually the streamers' constant winning that encourages people to play more and invest more money. When my streamers are on air, it is rare for them to lose money and you will almost always see them making a small profit.
Most streamers make sponsorship deals to promote the site and try to attract people with the balance that the site gives them in the style of "look how this site earns". Most publishers don't have a lot of money, of course, this varies from publisher to publisher, but we can say that they cover this money from the sponsors they receive.
legendary
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August 22, 2023, 12:25:27 PM
Yes, this is exactly what's going on if we talk about established and honest gambling sites: some people lose much more than they expect, much more than the highest house edge imaginable,  to slots, or whatever they play there, because of bad luck. And then some of them think that the site is scamming them and streamers that promote that site are scammers.

sometimes this looks strange, viewers imitate what streamers do, which is clear that it's gambling, but in other days, they try it because they are seeing the wins amount from streamer. They don't think about the risks before they start, then accuse as scam in comments. I've also watched live gambling streaming, when the streamer won. Even though it's not their money though, I feel normal. Maybe when I watched it, the streamer was lucky. Of course, I didn't follow the streamer's directions to play at the place he was promoting, because for me, the place where I played was the most appropriate choice, because I would definitely be paid if I won. Watching them, just to know the game.
legendary
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August 22, 2023, 03:18:16 AM
You are not going to learn anything from watching slots streamers, and you won't lose either since you are not going to bet any money, but someone in the comment section said watching such videos makes them know how to gamble better is not true, all you will gain from such stream is fun.

While you do this, I believe it's right to know that they are still making money off you as the streamer, It's a channel, and the more people that watch the more money they make, I think this type of strategy will never fade, even if they lose money in the games the channel still make their money.

The more I think about large crowds streaming slot games online, I can't help but feel like this is another effective way to throw gambling hunger in the minds of people, it's another advertisement strategy.

I find it strange that someone wants to learn something just by watching other person hitting spin button or even just sit in front of a camera and watch everything auto spin. The only thing such streams or videos can show are human reactions and behaviors on huge wins or losses.

Do everyone noticed, that streamers get huge wins, free spins more frequent than when we play slots? During almost every single stream they win big, but during interviews of Q&A they say that they have lost more than they have won and they are in debts. I find this info always suspicious.
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August 22, 2023, 03:06:19 AM
You are not going to learn anything from watching slots streamers, and you won't lose either since you are not going to bet any money, but someone in the comment section said watching such videos makes them know how to gamble better is not true, all you will gain from such stream is fun.

While you do this, I believe it's right to know that they are still making money off you as the streamer, It's a channel, and the more people that watch the more money they make, I think this type of strategy will never fade, even if they lose money in the games the channel still make their money.

The more I think about large crowds streaming slot games online, I can't help but feel like this is another effective way to throw gambling hunger in the minds of people, it's another advertisement strategy.
Information. That's what you will get from them.
How much the ultimate multi-win can be. The patterns and the amount it will give when you hit it. And maybe learn how the game works. Those streamers are like tutorials on how to play the game but not how to win.

But strategy? You are right. I don't think so too. There's no such thing as a strategy in a casino base game. All of it is just relying on the RTP. Now, maximizing the amount to win during the RTP period is where we could take advantage of the gambling site. But knowing when it will come is a mystery. I have seen hundreds of losses in a streak with high-risk bets and sometimes it will just surprise you with a max multi-win.
sr. member
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August 22, 2023, 02:46:50 AM
You are not going to learn anything from watching slots streamers, and you won't lose either since you are not going to bet any money, but someone in the comment section said watching such videos makes them know how to gamble better is not true, all you will gain from such stream is fun.

While you do this, I believe it's right to know that they are still making money off you as the streamer, It's a channel, and the more people that watch the more money they make, I think this type of strategy will never fade, even if they lose money in the games the channel still make their money.

The more I think about large crowds streaming slot games online, I can't help but feel like this is another effective way to throw gambling hunger in the minds of people, it's another advertisement strategy.
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August 22, 2023, 02:32:49 AM
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I agree with you, Whether they play with their own money or not, streamers not scammed their subscribers or viewers. Scammers are people who take money from us either directly or indirectly. As far as streamers not asking for money from their viewers and than run away, it can't be called as scammers. In case their viewers lose while gambling, it's not because the streamer is a scammer, but the users are unlucky.

Yes, this is exactly what's going on if we talk about established and honest gambling sites: some people lose much more than they expect, much more than the highest house edge imaginable,  to slots, or whatever they play there, because of bad luck. And then some of them think that the site is scamming them and streamers that promote that site are scammers.

Unless the streamer is promoting a gambling scam website, maybe we can assume he is in the wrong partnership, because it traps its users on gambling scam providers.

If a streamer knowingly promotes a scam site, he can definitely be called scammer, only I don't think there are such cases with popular influencers. They value their reputation too much to risk losing it.
legendary
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August 18, 2023, 06:25:02 PM
The chances of people winning there are not the same as your chances of winning because the broadcasters are given extra chances and free money so I don't take their winnings into account.No matter how much they win I'm not interested in it because I know there is a game in it.

If the money is sponsored, what's the connection to that on the streamer's winning rate? Streamers are playing the same algorithm same as users. There's no point in manipulating that part as they will just give dirt to their reputation as a streamer. Most gambling streamers are playing fair and square.

And just a correction, the majority of streamers are not really being sponsored. The money they are using came from their own pocket as what matter there is, they should attract more views on their stream as that will be the basis of their profit and revenue.

It just looks like these streamers have a good winning rate because they have a large bankroll which means more chances to hit that good winning. Since they can keep up their gambling session in the long run, they have the chance to get good winnings later on. But not all the time, streamers are lucky.

There's also a pre-recorded and live stream where on the former, only winnings are being published that's why it looks like they are always winning in reality. If you watch live stream, you will encounter gambling streamers that really losing as that was part of the entertainment.
legendary
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August 18, 2023, 04:30:46 PM
Watching these broadcasters will do us more harm. You will be both stressed in terms of health and weakened in terms of money. Since these publishers usually play with the balance given by the site and increased chances, they manage to attract people's minds and direct people towards the site. In this way, they both multiply their own earnings and take their money from those who deposit a balance on the site and lose their money. We can say that they make extra profit for themselves both when donations come to the publication and with the free money given by the site. I do not recommend watching and thus investing money on sites.

I only watch them to motivate myself after a losing session as when I see people hitting it big I say to myself it was just a bad luck for me this time and most likely next time will be better.I of course never deposit money to such sites as I rarely play with FIAT Money,I am happy playing in the cryptocurrency casinos as I feel more safe there in the sense that they give you more perks and benefits overall during your time you stay playing with them compared to the casinos promoted by these streamers.
Actually you shouldn't watch it.In a way it might motivate you to play more.Usually if I had such a loss I would want to get away from the computer completely and recover.The chances of people winning there are not the same as your chances of winning because the broadcasters are given extra chances and free money so I don't take their winnings into account.No matter how much they win I'm not interested in it because I know there is a game in it.
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August 17, 2023, 02:27:33 PM
looking at Streamers, I see them as having the dream job, the guys make money with their channels and as if that wasn't enough they also make money with the partnerships they make with the casinos, not to mention that they stay playing and having fun and still making money, while a simple player is losing money when he just plays. without a doubt that Streamers have the best business in the world, I have seen that some bookmakers even partner with sports bettors who have YouTube channels that talk about sports betting, I realized this because the owners of the channels I follow, when the videos start they talk about the bookmakers they use

and when they place bets they make a lot of money in each game, I suppose it was money that the bookmaker gave him so that when he makes bets he puts a lot of money and people who are watching the videos soon think that the bookmaker It's very reliable because you can see that the owner of the channel puts in a lot of money. It's a marketing strategy that I can see is working, but for some reason I can't help but wonder if that sounds like lying.

because let's imagine the following: we have a person who has a youtube channel with 5 million followers, so he analyzes premier league games and puts 2000$ in each game, in all he bets on 15 games, he knows that money is not it came out of his pocket, he knows that when he loses that loss it won't hurt him, but he is giving tips for people to bet on premier league games, these people will copy him, they will put a lot of money and will lose money when they don't get it right, it will be even if the owner of the youtube channel that is being sponsored by the casino does not feel guilty for people's losses, will he be ok with what he does
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