Topic: Casino vs. Stoc,Forex&Crypto Broker: Who's Really Playing You in the Money Game - page 6. (Read 3437 times)

Well, with all those things it shows that you were looking for your own style of how to win, and you based yourself on many things, sources of information, it's nice because at that moment our research capacity becomes sharper and you can find many ways, what happens is that finding a secret formula or something like that is difficult, I would say that one with those recommendations, both technical and theoretical, all of that must be mixed with one's own intuition, if the casino uses its house advantage we have to use something more focused on competing Against that, I think that is where some people go for witches, fortune tellers, because they look for another way to win and that is something that is sometimes out of the ordinary, but some will say that to win everything is valid, I consider that you also have to stop a little because the body needs to rest to be able to have fresh ideas.

What you've just said in this simple way is a pure fact and one of the ways people should know that gambling and trading are not just the same thing. When you are a trader, you are in for the serious business unless you are not serious yourself. I've known how to trade for a while and survived many years through trading. This can't be easy with gambling no matter what, and I know that people cannot say that they are trading for the fun, that's heretic, but such is being done in gambling to further prove the difference in them. When you are trading too, you should know that you are actually buying and selling depending on what you are trading, it could be currencies, energies, commodities etc. When you buy them, you own them until you sell them, but when you gamble, you own nothing but just commit your money to the risk and be at the mercy of luck at that time, which makes them different in almost all ramifications but for the "risk" involvement in the two of them which is making people think that they are the same thing, but are certain not. As an experienced trader and a gambler, naturally, I say know the feelings of the two, I can't even think of them the same. I know the models in them and how their activity, management and future hopes and pride feel about them. They are not just the same thing.

Yes, its difficult but doesnt mean that it would really be impossible. It would really be just that depending on how someone would really be working their assess off and on how you would really be able to deal up with things. When it comes to making money whether you are dealing with casino or forex or other markets then these are indeed businesses. Money game? Of course they are really that doing such stuff on which
they could generate out income or revenue and for us people who do engage out into these markets or platforms then it would really be just that up to you on how you would really be able to
deal up with things and when it comes to profitability then this is something that would pertain about on how well you do deal up with things and act according into it.
Money game? Its business so its normal that they would really be making money.

Sorry but I will not agree with your opinion here because you are completely wrong, trading, whether it be stocks, forex, crypto or what ever, can be just as fun as it is with gambling, it just have to depend on what the person doing either of this things loves doing, for someone who love gambling, he or she will enjoy and have good fun whenever he has the opportunity to gamble, while for someone who loves trading forex or crypto, he or she will have good fun when he or she have the opportunity to trade, this is possibly the reason why both gambling and trading are all addictive, people actually get addicted to trading just same way others get addicted to gambling.

The only difference is that, one is riskier than the other, because on gambling, you have to completely either depend on luck to make money, or depend on your knowledge of a game to make money from betting in that game.
But on trading, you have to depend on several types of skill sets, like knowing how to technically and fundamentally analyze the market, knowing how to do a proper research, knowing how to read charts and so on and on, all this skills will contribute to how much of your trades you win per day or depending on how frequent you trade.

Gambling is the only thing on those options that we can gain enjoyment while trying ourluck
because in stocks and brokerage you must b completely serious in all aspects before gaining that
amount.
or in which we are enjoying and willing to take risk, because all of those are profiteering
but brokerage needs no capital but skills and knowledge .

When someone telling us that he is trader we don`t tell him that it can be main income. When someone gets credit for business we don`t tell him how silly it is to risk money. But you are telling it about gambling.
I several times tell how it works, but you still believe that it is impossible. I don`t tell someone to gamble like i, but i just say that it is possible and it is the same like any other job. You work hard, you control your money, you use money management you spend lots of time and as result you get profit. It is difficult but possible.

Doing gambling as your main source is never been that advisable, we should really be taking up bets which is really that for the sake of fun. We might be able to see some progress or increase with our capital but it doesnt mean that we are already that sustainable. We should always be that considering that luck factor would really be always a contributive thing when it comes to gambling on which it would really be
something that very crucial and not something that you could really make yourself that too confident when it comes to that . You cant really be just that too confident on making it as your source of income.
You are really just that basically putting up yourself on such big trouble on the time that you would really be having those kind of considerations on which we know that gambling is something that
could really be putting you up on such big problems on the time that you do become that impulsive into it.

I began to bet with $200. It was enough for the beginning. I searched information, prediction groups, small matches in low leagues. As the result i doubled my money after 2 days. And next 3 days i lost the main part of the profit. But week by week i increased my deposit and raised my bets. But as the result i tried to make gambling the main income and understand that it is possible, but it take all your time and resources. I hadn`t time for anything except gambling and all i wanted was to sleep. Everybody can decide himself is he ready for it.

It might sound impossible but there are people who are really that making a living with these things like specially on gambling or even on stocks/forex. It might sound that its unlikely but it could really be applied or something that would really be that possible for you to achieve on but only a few people on this world would be having that particular skill having that kind of knowledge on which they could really be able to sustain themselves in speaking about profitability on which we know that this is something wont really be that so easy when we do speak about on dealing with it.
As for business owners point of view then it would be normal that they would really be having that kind of passive income or profits that they are making into their business
because it would really be just that understandable considering that there's demand then there's revenue.

You're right, in the game things can be very difficult to be profitable, for example I don't see that the game is for me as an income or as a job or something like that, I really don't think I have enough level to be able to I said something like that, I have never tried it with sports betting, I do sports betting from time to time and that is with the games that are from the PL, the League, good in soccer, and that is enough for me to be able to do something to be able to have an extra, but I don't see that extra as enough to live on (in the case that I win), it is also evaluated that to make a good bet, sports  it should be done with a lot of money to earn a lot of money, and I haven't been able to reach that level yet, I really admire the people who make a living from sports events, I live in their lives, every facet is full of pure adrenaline.

It is possible. For such situations there is money management. If you have money only for 2-3 weeks of betting and no any money for life - it is a bad decision. The same is everywhere. If you start business with such sums you have good chances to lose it. If you trade with such money - it would be enough 1-2 deals with leverage to become a bankrupt. In the gambling it is the same. If you don`t ready to risk and work hard - you can choose easy work with fixed salary.

absolutely mate you are right Many people around the world think that gambling can manage the situation or sustain their daily needs but in reality it is not the same and the outcome is not the same too as we all know that everyone of us here if we rely on gambling then we will failed . Failed because our money can not sustain our daily needs gambling is not a job that you can get money if you were working bit in gambling even though everyday, every hour or Every minutes we can not say say that we will win.

What if the gambler doesn't win big money even in the third week? And what if he continues trying and doesn't manage to win anything big for more months than they have reserves for? What next? Everything is gone, all you have left is regrets and nothing else. So, a gambler needs to understand that gambling is not something they should rely on, even if you have reserves for months, you can exhaust it all and still not manage to earn anything.

Gambling shouldn't be considered like a job or a source of income, people who consider gambling a source of income regret it sooner or later, so new gamblers should learn from the experiences of old gamblers who tried the same thing and failed in it and they should change their perception about it.

It is simple. The work of brokers is simply to provide liquidity for assets people want to buy and sell as quick as possible, they simply charge for the convenience of providing the quick and seamless swap between assets, it is a fee which they earn regardless of the conditiom of the market, because it only depends on the volume and not the value of the assets themselves in the last 24 hours or so. That is how market makers make money, or at least most of them.
I would dare to say that without the existence of brokers, the global markets would not be the same whatsoever and it could take several hours for us to carry out a single transaction, so I personally do not see anything wrong with the role of brokers and market makers, s long as they do not use their position to manipulate the market on purpose or get involved in any malpractice, then they are as legitimate to me as any casino would be.

Also, unlike brokers. Casino do not completely depend on the volume of gambling but also a little bit on the luck of their gamblers. Brokers do not benefit from it in the same way.

Yeah definitely, 
Brokers make their  profit from our market executions and its  fine to me I don't  dispute it as they need to keep their company running  and get some profits but truly they take it far sometimes instead of making  it minimal  so I wouldn't support  them either
 

Sorry about your bad experience with trading using a traditional broker's platform, that's why we should know the kind of broker we are opting for. Actually, the name of that broker is not "exiness" but Exness and I do not think it is as bad as you tagged it. I had dealt with it many years back but left not because I had any issue with them but because they are a Market Maker type of brokerage and I do not like such a brokerage arrangement in my trading principle. However, the way you complained about it shows that you do not know much about trading and you did not even tell us what the broker did wrong actually but just alleged, which is not fair. And based on my experience when traditional brokers are compared to the exchanges, including Binance which is the most popular, the traditional brokers are still fairer than them for the fear of regulators as most exchanges are Bucket shops unless you guys do not know the evil they are stylishly perpetrating.

Above all, if Exness did not scam you entirely, then it might be some fees you did not know existed which could be the Swap (Rollover charges). Though I do not know the exact allegation since you never added it, this is plainly not an exploitation if that is the case. It's in the agreement you signed.

You can read my previous posts, i wrote everything you ask, so i`ll answer only the last question.
I don`t believe in fortune. I don`t believe that someone can get some stable profit from casino games. I`m sure that it is possible to get stable profit from sport betting, and it can be big enough to be the main income. At least i`ve got stable profit more than medium salary in my country. It is difficult enough and not every gambler can repeat it. If you want to get enough money for life from gambling you must spend a huge quantity of time searching information, analyzing it and trying to find nice odds.

From your story that you play only occasionally and, based on your experience and knowledge, you can even make a small profit in the long term, apparently you can be called a professional player. 
Therefore, the fact that you get upset when a streak of failures haunts you should be a very minor emotion of yours and should pass quite quickly and, in general, not really harm the normal course of everyday life events.  If this is so, then we can probably say that you have reached this most optimal state of a gambler, when in general the game begins to bring a little pleasure and even bring profit in the long run.  And in doing so, your self-restraint on your gambling will ensure that you never become an addicted gambler who needs outside help to recover.

Once you do gamble then dont make yourself having that kind of expectation that you could really be able to have that sure win or profitable run on which we know that this isnt something a guarantee.
If you do saw that you are already losing up so much money then why would really be tending to continue? We do know that this is something that cant really be that avoided considering that we are dealing on something which is really that for leisure or fun or simply dealing up with games. Doesnt matter on which one you would really be trying out to deal or get involved with. Basing up into the selection about casinos vs stocks and forex brokers on how these fellas do make money? It is really indeed an easy money for them but we do know that they've been trying out to established these businesses for their benefit.

You missed a lot of profits as how??
Were you more of a  gambler that gambles more often before??
If yes, there's  only one view to this that you make more profits when you're still gambling more often than now that you are doing it only at your leisure  time.
So what's your point?? do you think  gambling  more often brings more fortune  because  I knew higher percentage  of people that gambles more often get addicted,thus losing more than they should have lost