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Quote from: Hamphser on March 27, 2024, 04:22:07 PM

Of course i`m disappointed when i lose, especially the first times. Sometimes i get "lose strike" for 2-3 days. It is even possible that i can lose the week(2 weeks ago the result was -$150). But after several such situations you understand that it is just a part of a job. It is the same with the trading - you can`t win all the deals. Today i don`t care about the day/week result - just continue doing my job.
PS. As i said, now i bet only when i have free time and it disappoints me much more, today i play like common gambler and miss lots of profit.

You missed a lot of profits as how??
Were you more of a gambler that gambles more often before??
If yes, there's only one view to this that you make more profits when you're still gambling more often than now that you are doing it only at your leisure time.
So what's your point?? do you think gambling more often brings more fortune because I knew higher percentage of people that gambles more often get addicted,thus losing more than they should have lost

You can read my previous posts, i wrote everything you ask, so i`ll answer only the last question.
I don`t believe in fortune. I don`t believe that someone can get some stable profit from casino games. I`m sure that it is possible to get stable profit from sport betting, and it can be big enough to be the main income. At least i`ve got stable profit more than medium salary in my country. It is difficult enough and not every gambler can repeat it. If you want to get enough money for life from gambling you must spend a huge quantity of time searching information, analyzing it and trying to find nice odds.

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It is really different types of gambling. If you play for fun you get positive emotions from the process of gambling. It is nice for relax, even if you lose some money. Of course i`m talking about gambler without problems with the game. When you try to get stable profit - you don`t cares about the game, you just look at the stats, at the game, at the odds and decide to bet or not. Without any emotions. In such case positive emotions you get from the result only.

And just this result can either make you happy or seriously upset you if you lose. In addition, the very thought of losing will haunt you for some time even after you finish your unsuccessful game that day. Here we should rather talk about negative emotions from gambling. But all this, of course, is the case if you have already begun to approach and treat such games as work.
If you play for your own pleasure, then the thought that losing is a payment for the emotions received from the game is not so difficult and destructive for the player’s psyche and passes quite quickly.

Of course i`m disappointed when i lose, especially the first times. Sometimes i get "lose strike" for 2-3 days. It is even possible that i can lose the week(2 weeks ago the result was -$150). But after several such situations you understand that it is just a part of a job. It is the same with the trading - you can`t win all the deals. Today i don`t care about the day/week result - just continue doing my job.
PS. As i said, now i bet only when i have free time and it disappoints me much more, today i play like common gambler and miss lots of profit.

You miss a lot of profits as how??
We're you more of a gambler that gambles more often before??
If yes, there's only one view to this that you make more profits when we're still gambling more often than now that you are doing it only at your leisure time.
So what's your point?? do you think gambling more often brings more fortune because I knew higher percentage of people that gambles more often get addicted,thus losing more than they should have lost

Once you do gamble then dont make yourself having that kind of expectation that you could really be able to have that sure win or profitable run on which we know that this isnt something a guarantee.
If you do saw that you are already losing up so much money then why would really be tending to continue? We do know that this is something that cant really be that avoided considering that we are dealing on something which is really that for leisure or fun or simply dealing up with games. Doesnt matter on which one you would really be trying out to deal or get involved with. Basing up into the selection about casinos vs stocks and forex brokers on how these fellas do make money? It is really indeed an easy money for them but we do know that they've been trying out to established these businesses for their benefit.

From your story that you play only occasionally and, based on your experience and knowledge, you can even make a small profit in the long term, apparently you can be called a professional player.
Therefore, the fact that you get upset when a streak of failures haunts you should be a very minor emotion of yours and should pass quite quickly and, in general, not really harm the normal course of everyday life events. If this is so, then we can probably say that you have reached this most optimal state of a gambler, when in general the game begins to bring a little pleasure and even bring profit in the long run. And in doing so, your self-restraint on your gambling will ensure that you never become an addicted gambler who needs outside help to recover.

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Quote from: delfastTions on March 27, 2024, 02:24:16 AM

It is really different types of gambling. If you play for fun you get positive emotions from the process of gambling. It is nice for relax, even if you lose some money. Of course i`m talking about gambler without problems with the game. When you try to get stable profit - you don`t cares about the game, you just look at the stats, at the game, at the odds and decide to bet or not. Without any emotions. In such case positive emotions you get from the result only.

And just this result can either make you happy or seriously upset you if you lose. In addition, the very thought of losing will haunt you for some time even after you finish your unsuccessful game that day. Here we should rather talk about negative emotions from gambling. But all this, of course, is the case if you have already begun to approach and treat such games as work.
If you play for your own pleasure, then the thought that losing is a payment for the emotions received from the game is not so difficult and destructive for the player’s psyche and passes quite quickly.

Of course i`m disappointed when i lose, especially the first times. Sometimes i get "lose strike" for 2-3 days. It is even possible that i can lose the week(2 weeks ago the result was -$150). But after several such situations you understand that it is just a part of a job. It is the same with the trading - you can`t win all the deals. Today i don`t care about the day/week result - just continue doing my job.
PS. As i said, now i bet only when i have free time and it disappoints me much more, today i play like common gambler and miss lots of profit.

You miss a lot of profits as how??
We're you more of a gambler that gambles more often before??
If yes, there's only one view to this that you make more profits when we're still gambling more often than now that you are doing it only at your leisure time.
So what's your point?? do you think gambling more often brings more fortune because I knew higher percentage of people that gambles more often get addicted,thus losing more than they should have lost

Once you do gamble then dont make yourself having that kind of expectation that you could really be able to have that sure win or profitable run on which we know that this isnt something a guarantee.
If you do saw that you are already losing up so much money then why would really be tending to continue? We do know that this is something that cant really be that avoided considering that we are dealing on something which is really that for leisure or fun or simply dealing up with games. Doesnt matter on which one you would really be trying out to deal or get involved with. Basing up into the selection about casinos vs stocks and forex brokers on how these fellas do make money? It is really indeed an easy money for them but we do know that they've been trying out to established these businesses for their benefit.

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Quote from: delfastTions on March 27, 2024, 02:24:16 AM

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It is really different types of gambling. If you play for fun you get positive emotions from the process of gambling. It is nice for relax, even if you lose some money. Of course i`m talking about gambler without problems with the game. When you try to get stable profit - you don`t cares about the game, you just look at the stats, at the game, at the odds and decide to bet or not. Without any emotions. In such case positive emotions you get from the result only.

And just this result can either make you happy or seriously upset you if you lose. In addition, the very thought of losing will haunt you for some time even after you finish your unsuccessful game that day. Here we should rather talk about negative emotions from gambling. But all this, of course, is the case if you have already begun to approach and treat such games as work.
If you play for your own pleasure, then the thought that losing is a payment for the emotions received from the game is not so difficult and destructive for the player’s psyche and passes quite quickly.

Of course i`m disappointed when i lose, especially the first times. Sometimes i get "lose strike" for 2-3 days. It is even possible that i can lose the week(2 weeks ago the result was -$150). But after several such situations you understand that it is just a part of a job. It is the same with the trading - you can`t win all the deals. Today i don`t care about the day/week result - just continue doing my job.
PS. As i said, now i bet only when i have free time and it disappoints me much more, today i play like common gambler and miss lots of profit.

You missed a lot of profits as how??
Were you more of a gambler that gambles more often before??
If yes, there's only one view to this that you make more profits when you're still gambling more often than now that you are doing it only at your leisure time.
So what's your point?? do you think gambling more often brings more fortune because I knew higher percentage of people that gambles more often get addicted,thus losing more than they should have lost

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Quote from: virasog on March 23, 2024, 01:09:30 PM

It is really different types of gambling. If you play for fun you get positive emotions from the process of gambling. It is nice for relax, even if you lose some money. Of course i`m talking about gambler without problems with the game. When you try to get stable profit - you don`t cares about the game, you just look at the stats, at the game, at the odds and decide to bet or not. Without any emotions. In such case positive emotions you get from the result only.

And just this result can either make you happy or seriously upset you if you lose. In addition, the very thought of losing will haunt you for some time even after you finish your unsuccessful game that day. Here we should rather talk about negative emotions from gambling. But all this, of course, is the case if you have already begun to approach and treat such games as work.
If you play for your own pleasure, then the thought that losing is a payment for the emotions received from the game is not so difficult and destructive for the player’s psyche and passes quite quickly.

Of course i`m disappointed when i lose, especially the first times. Sometimes i get "lose strike" for 2-3 days. It is even possible that i can lose the week(2 weeks ago the result was -$150). But after several such situations you understand that it is just a part of a job. It is the same with the trading - you can`t win all the deals. Today i don`t care about the day/week result - just continue doing my job.
PS. As i said, now i bet only when i have free time and it disappoints me much more, today i play like common gambler and miss lots of profit.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on March 23, 2024, 03:43:59 PM

It is the same like a job. As you say - if the job becomes boring why you continue to work? The same is with gambling as a job. The difference is that you get fixed salary for the job and can plan how to spend you money and in gambling you can lose 1-2 weeks and get big money after 3 weeks. It makes you to think in another way and you have to use money management not only for gambling but for all you life. Also you must have some money reserved. The gamblers i know have such reserve for 3-4 months of living.

Well, I would not compare gambling with the job as both are different from the basis. In your job, you will not spend the money or invest any money and at the end of the month, you will get a fixed salary. In a job, there is no concept of a loss.

you only need to do the task and you will already earning money and that is the concept of job in which you are also correct
mate this is how we don't wanted to absent for the reason of not having risk chances.

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This is totally the opposite as in gambling you need to invest your money first and then make or lose money from it. The more you invest, the more money you can lose or win as it depends upon the luck. Also, there are many other differences like jobs are totally skill based. Without skills, no one will hire you but gambling does not need any skills. You only need to have money to risk and you can gamble.

Hardly to admit this reality but yeah gambling is where we spend and risk and mostly loses our payments from job .

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Quote from: fingnome on September 28, 2023, 06:02:02 AM

You know how casinos lay it all out, they're taking a gamble just like us? But get this, brokers might just be outdoing them in their own sly way. I’m saying brokers might actually be worse. Why? They’ve got this neat, little setup where they rake in their shares through bid-offer spreads and commissions, all while carrying zero market risk. It’s like having their cake and eating it too, but in secret. We’re all out here rolling the dice, while brokers are the house, cashing in risk-free. What’s your take? Are brokers just silently stacking the deck, snagging a surefire win with every trade we make?

While trading forex, I had a very ugly experience with one broker called exiness. I mean they literally drained me. I never knew brokers have other ways of exploiting or let's say, extorting us. I wasn't taught so. I was taught that brokers make money from commissions and fees but I bet you there are alot more to that. Someone who introduced me to Forex trading later told me to switch to another broker. I did and the loses minimized. It is then I understood that even brokers can be a good reason you win or lose a trade. Select your brokers very well if you wish to be successful on a long run in cryptocurrency trading. If it is possible avoid them totally.

Exactly!! That's why I stop trading in forex because no matter how good your prediction is or even if you are following a prediction, there is something in those broker apps. I don't want to mention it, but based on my experience using 3 different forex brokers, I still don't have any luck. Yes, I earn, but the thing is, it's so hard to even win a single trade in a day. So, as I noticed, I stopped right away and focused on crypto trading. Crypto trading is much more secure, and you will be assured that no one can manipulate or trick you. Your only enemy is how you execute your trade in the market.

I don't know if I have a similar bad experience or the same opinion about forex trading, but as I read your comment, it proved that I'm not alone. I have a similar comment about forex trading.

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Quote from: delfastTions on March 26, 2024, 01:42:23 AM

I think that a lot depends on the player himself and his psychological portrait.
If he starts gambling with the feeling that it is work, then it seems to me that such a feeling is much worse than just a relaxed state and the desire to just have fun in his free time.
Here in the topic there is a mention that in the monthly cycle it would be good to have a constant profit from gambling. However, in order to achieve such a result, I think you need to have such gaming experience that it amounts to a year or more of intense work with these very gambling games. So you still need to complete this sort of “gambling university” in order to really be successful. Well, those who play a little will most likely never be able to achieve such results.
And he will consider and even sincerely believe that his loss is payment for the pleasure he received from gambling. In my opinion, this is also a good option for complacency and psychological comfort for the player.

It is really different types of gambling. If you play for fun you get positive emotions from the process of gambling. It is nice for relax, even if you lose some money. Of course i`m talking about gambler without problems with the game. When you try to get stable profit - you don`t cares about the game, you just look at the stats, at the game, at the odds and decide to bet or not. Without any emotions. In such case positive emotions you get from the result only.

And just this result can either make you happy or seriously upset you if you lose. In addition, the very thought of losing will haunt you for some time even after you finish your unsuccessful game that day. Here we should rather talk about negative emotions from gambling. But all this, of course, is the case if you have already begun to approach and treat such games as work.
If you play for your own pleasure, then the thought that losing is a payment for the emotions received from the game is not so difficult and destructive for the player’s psyche and passes quite quickly.

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Quote from: delfastTions on March 26, 2024, 01:42:23 AM

I think that a lot depends on the player himself and his psychological portrait.
If he starts gambling with the feeling that it is work, then it seems to me that such a feeling is much worse than just a relaxed state and the desire to just have fun in his free time.
Here in the topic there is a mention that in the monthly cycle it would be good to have a constant profit from gambling. However, in order to achieve such a result, I think you need to have such gaming experience that it amounts to a year or more of intense work with these very gambling games. So you still need to complete this sort of “gambling university” in order to really be successful. Well, those who play a little will most likely never be able to achieve such results.
And he will consider and even sincerely believe that his loss is payment for the pleasure he received from gambling. In my opinion, this is also a good option for complacency and psychological comfort for the player.

It is really different types of gambling. If you play for fun you get positive emotions from the process of gambling. It is nice for relax, even if you lose some money. Of course i`m talking about gambler without problems with the game. When you try to get stable profit - you don`t cares about the game, you just look at the stats, at the game, at the odds and decide to bet or not. Without any emotions. In such case positive emotions you get from the result only.

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It was difficult. I prepared for it for 2-3 months. I`ve got some money for start, rested, searched information, prediction groups, etc. It wasn`t fast decision like "tomorrow i become a gambling winner". And it was hard to wake up several times per night, stop everything and wait nice odds, for live bets. The result was nice, but i thought that it would be possible to combine the main job, the betting, my family and hobbies. Yes, i could get more money from some other job, or spend it time in some another way, but it was an experiment and i think that it was successful. But i don`t think that i would like to repeat it till i`m working.

This is clearly a great experiment. Especially if you even managed to make money.
Now, if any of the novice players are reading this topic and your posts, then it is quite possible to say that such an experiment with gambling should be regarded as the best gaming behavior.
And it is clear that it was difficult. It’s also difficult because the brain is constantly busy remembering bets and related related information. Even in the middle of the night when you wake up.
But still, this experience is a fascinating journey into the world of gambling. Fortunately, the trip turned out to be successful and interesting, which does not happen to all gamblers.

The main thing i want to say that it is possible to get money from gambling but it is not easy money as somebody thinks.

But the same time we can`t say that you can`t get stable profit from gambling. And when i say "stable" i don`t mean "everyday" - but every month must be profitable.

If they think its impossible to earn money on gambling then why they continue to gamble if those people know they would just lost their money in the end whatever efforts they try? Its useless to gamble that way and saying we gamble for fun is just an excuse since all want to win at some point.

We can possibly earn if we have fulfillment on something we earn and can appreciate even if what we receive is small amount. But if they are greedy enough to extend for thinking that they could able to win more then do gamble in bad way then for sure that they will never be successful nor earn something in return for doing this. We maybe can't get stable profit on gambling but at least we have a chance to take out our profit.

I think that a lot depends on the player himself and his psychological portrait.
If he starts gambling with the feeling that it is work, then it seems to me that such a feeling is much worse than just a relaxed state and the desire to just have fun in his free time.
Here in the topic there is a mention that in the monthly cycle it would be good to have a constant profit from gambling. However, in order to achieve such a result, I think you need to have such gaming experience that it amounts to a year or more of intense work with these very gambling games. So you still need to complete this sort of “gambling university” in order to really be successful. Well, those who play a little will most likely never be able to achieve such results.
And he will consider and even sincerely believe that his loss is payment for the pleasure he received from gambling. In my opinion, this is also a good option for complacency and psychological comfort for the player.

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It is the same like a job. As you say - if the job becomes boring why you continue to work? The same is with gambling as a job. The difference is that you get fixed salary for the job and can plan how to spend you money and in gambling you can lose 1-2 weeks and get big money after 3 weeks. It makes you to think in another way and you have to use money management not only for gambling but for all you life. Also you must have some money reserved. The gamblers i know have such reserve for 3-4 months of living.

Well, I would not compare gambling with the job as both are different from the basis. In your job, you will not spend the money or invest any money and at the end of the month, you will get a fixed salary. In a job, there is no concept of a loss.

This is totally the opposite as in gambling you need to invest your money first and then make or lose money from it. The more you invest, the more money you can lose or win as it depends upon the luck. Also, there are many other differences like jobs are totally skill based. Without skills, no one will hire you but gambling does not need any skills. You only need to have money to risk and you can gamble.

It is true only if you get fixes salary. But if you have some business you always spend your money and don`t sure will you have profit in the end of the month or not. The same is for freelancers, traders for example. There are lots of situation when you work hard and don`t sure that will get money for it.
But it is true that "to work in the gambling" is not for all and it differs from other jobs.

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And yeah, just like you have said, it is completely wrong to compare gambling to a job, there are completely different and don't have don't cross path in any form, generating income from a job can be guaranteed, but generating income from gambling is not guaranteed, and just as you have said, job only requires investment of one's time and energy or brains, depending on the type of job, then the person gets paid by the end of the month, while gambling requires investment of not just money, but also one's time, and brains, depending on what type of game the gambler is playing, and even at this, the gambler will still need to be lucky to win, else, it's still going to end in a loss, shows that there is no guarantee of any kind in gambling.

It's completion out of place to compar gambling to to a skill Jon, because a job is a profession because we have so.e professional jobs and unprofessional jobs which are call minal job at times, but same can't be hard of gambling and in gambling is either you win or lose its a game of chances and also unrealistic and unreliable which make it out of skills, and we can't fine any gambler that can call himself a skilled gamblers because at some point we don't have such in gambling.

Well we make some statements as trading be some form of gambling even though that is not 100% true and trading can still accommodate some level of skills and strategies which can not be apply in gambling so comparing both still can not stand, we have to face it that gambling is risk involved and no matter your experience you can never win over the house and any attempt to do so can only end you in more loses than winning at the end.

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Quote from: fingnome on September 28, 2023, 06:02:02 AM

You know how casinos lay it all out, they're taking a gamble just like us? But get this, brokers might just be outdoing them in their own sly way. I’m saying brokers might actually be worse. Why? They’ve got this neat, little setup where they rake in their shares through bid-offer spreads and commissions, all while carrying zero market risk. It’s like having their cake and eating it too, but in secret. We’re all out here rolling the dice, while brokers are the house, cashing in risk-free. What’s your take? Are brokers just silently stacking the deck, snagging a surefire win with every trade we make?

While trading forex, I had a very ugly experience with one broker called exiness. I mean they literally drained me. I never knew brokers have other ways of exploiting or let's say, extorting us. I wasn't taught so. I was taught that brokers make money from commissions and fees but I bet you there are alot more to that. Someone who introduced me to Forex trading later told me to switch to another broker. I did and the loses minimized. It is then I understood that even brokers can be a good reason you win or lose a trade. Select your brokers very well if you wish to be successful on a long run in cryptocurrency trading. If it is possible avoid them totally.

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Quote from: virasog on March 23, 2024, 01:09:30 PM

It is the same like a job. As you say - if the job becomes boring why you continue to work? The same is with gambling as a job. The difference is that you get fixed salary for the job and can plan how to spend you money and in gambling you can lose 1-2 weeks and get big money after 3 weeks. It makes you to think in another way and you have to use money management not only for gambling but for all you life. Also you must have some money reserved. The gamblers i know have such reserve for 3-4 months of living.

Well, I would not compare gambling with the job as both are different from the basis. In your job, you will not spend the money or invest any money and at the end of the month, you will get a fixed salary. In a job, there is no concept of a loss.

This is totally the opposite as in gambling you need to invest your money first and then make or lose money from it. The more you invest, the more money you can lose or win as it depends upon the luck. Also, there are many other differences like jobs are totally skill based. Without skills, no one will hire you but gambling does not need any skills. You only need to have money to risk and you can gamble.

Completely agree with you, though not all jobs are skill based, for example, the job of a cleaner is not skill based, the job of a gate man is not skill based, and coming back to white collar jobs, what about a fresh graduate who hasn't acquired any skill or working experience, how do they get hired?, it is sometimes a bit difficult but they still get hired by the end of the day, and from there, they start building their skills.

And yeah, just like you have said, it is completely wrong to compare gambling to a job, there are completely different and don't have don't cross path in any form, generating income from a job can be guaranteed, but generating income from gambling is not guaranteed, and just as you have said, job only requires investment of one's time and energy or brains, depending on the type of job, then the person gets paid by the end of the month, while gambling requires investment of not just money, but also one's time, and brains, depending on what type of game the gambler is playing, and even at this, the gambler will still need to be lucky to win, else, it's still going to end in a loss, shows that there is no guarantee of any kind in gambling.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on September 28, 2023, 11:51:15 AM

It is the same like a job. As you say - if the job becomes boring why you continue to work? The same is with gambling as a job. The difference is that you get fixed salary for the job and can plan how to spend you money and in gambling you can lose 1-2 weeks and get big money after 3 weeks. It makes you to think in another way and you have to use money management not only for gambling but for all you life. Also you must have some money reserved. The gamblers i know have such reserve for 3-4 months of living.

Well, I would not compare gambling with the job as both are different from the basis. In your job, you will not spend the money or invest any money and at the end of the month, you will get a fixed salary. In a job, there is no concept of a loss.

This is totally the opposite as in gambling you need to invest your money first and then make or lose money from it. The more you invest, the more money you can lose or win as it depends upon the luck. Also, there are many other differences like jobs are totally skill based. Without skills, no one will hire you but gambling does not need any skills. You only need to have money to risk and you can gamble.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on September 28, 2023, 11:08:50 AM

- Actually, I'm wondering if the broker is related or similar to the casino. Because it seems far-fetched to compare a broker to gambling in a casino. Isn't that broker only for Forex traders? I can't see its connection here at the casino.

I guess op just wanted to throw in the broker stuff here instead of the traders wing otherwise I also don't see correlation of brokerage in gambling or casinos because that is a direct stake or the casino which is an end to itself and not a middle man like the broker would do in the financial market. However, brokers don't only operate in the forex trading, they also exist banking and insurance, stocks, derivatives market etc.

Forex is more of financial trading activities, and not like gambling that you have to risk it all, in trading, one risk either the profits and loses, and mentaining the assets, while I gambling you can lose 100% and not be left with anything at all.

So I believe this discussion fits best at the trading discussions but then since ops already mentioned the comparison between gambling and stock, it make a little if we contribute our portion to this discussion.

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The main thing i want to say that it is possible to get money from gambling but it is not easy money as somebody thinks. You must to work hard to get positive result. Like in any kind of job or business. And i don`t recommend anybody to believe that he can become successful gambler after 2 good bets.
But the same time we can`t say that you can`t get stable profit from gambling. And when i say "stable" i don`t mean "everyday" - but every month must be profitable.

IMO there's nothing like working harder to get a positive result in gambling, a gambler could get a huge jackpot in his first game or in his first 10 games while someone haven't hit a jack pot for months of playing.
The way is see gambling is beign able to think, smartness and more percentage of luck, yeah! you heard me right you have to be lucky enough to hit a jackpot not just working hard

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Gamblers will be surprised in their quest to hitting this jackpot of a thing when you get addicted (in a wrong way, taking it as a job) instead of playing responsibly, fine! if a gambler wish to take it as a job and he's aware of the risks, then so be it he made his decision, either he's right or wrong is left to him to decide

I don`t try to hit jackpot. I make odds between 2 and 10, sometimes multibets, sometimes bets with the odd more than 50 for fun. When i bet like a job - it was lots of money management. I increased/decreased bets, moved some money to "bank", etc. Gambler who wants to hit jackpot mostly lose as the result.

The main thing i want to say that it is possible to get money from gambling but it is not easy money as somebody thinks.

But the same time we can`t say that you can`t get stable profit from gambling. And when i say "stable" i don`t mean "everyday" - but every month must be profitable.

If they think its impossible to earn money on gambling then why they continue to gamble if those people know they would just lost their money in the end whatever efforts they try? Its useless to gamble that way and saying we gamble for fun is just an excuse since all want to win at some point.

We can possibly earn if we have fulfillment on something we earn and can appreciate even if what we receive is small amount. But if they are greedy enough to extend for thinking that they could able to win more then do gamble in bad way then for sure that they will never be successful nor earn something in return for doing this. We maybe can't get stable profit on gambling but at least we have a chance to take out our profit.

I don`t know why. Somebody want to hit jackpot, somebody wants to get easy money. But it doesn`t work so. It is possible to get big prize, but it is paid by the main part of other gamblers, who lost.

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It was difficult. I prepared for it for 2-3 months. I`ve got some money for start, rested, searched information, prediction groups, etc. It wasn`t fast decision like "tomorrow i become a gambling winner". And it was hard to wake up several times per night, stop everything and wait nice odds, for live bets. The result was nice, but i thought that it would be possible to combine the main job, the betting, my family and hobbies. Yes, i could get more money from some other job, or spend it time in some another way, but it was an experiment and i think that it was successful. But i don`t think that i would like to repeat it till i`m working.

This is clearly a great experiment. Especially if you even managed to make money.
Now, if any of the novice players are reading this topic and your posts, then it is quite possible to say that such an experiment with gambling should be regarded as the best gaming behavior.
And it is clear that it was difficult. It’s also difficult because the brain is constantly busy remembering bets and related related information. Even in the middle of the night when you wake up.
But still, this experience is a fascinating journey into the world of gambling. Fortunately, the trip turned out to be successful and interesting, which does not happen to all gamblers.

The main thing i want to say that it is possible to get money from gambling but it is not easy money as somebody thinks.

But the same time we can`t say that you can`t get stable profit from gambling. And when i say "stable" i don`t mean "everyday" - but every month must be profitable.

If they think its impossible to earn money on gambling then why they continue to gamble if those people know they would just lost their money in the end whatever efforts they try? Its useless to gamble that way and saying we gamble for fun is just an excuse since all want to win at some point.

We can possibly earn if we have fulfillment on something we earn and can appreciate even if what we receive is small amount. But if they are greedy enough to extend for thinking that they could able to win more then do gamble in bad way then for sure that they will never be successful nor earn something in return for doing this. We maybe can't get stable profit on gambling but at least we have a chance to take out our profit.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on March 21, 2024, 11:40:06 AM

We may not have to compare all these together because some of them are not the same with each other, gambling most especially is a different form of getting entertained with fun and others are more about making an investment or business while the brokers are the intermediaries between brokers, all we need to know is what constitutes whatever thing we are going in for,when we have the understanding, we will not be cheated and we are going to be at the top of having it's best satisfaction.

You are trying to establish a meaningful point but you never concluded it well and no matter what we think about gambling and business, they are certainly not the same thing. Let me start with your points and twist them a little bit for more understanding.

If you look at it from the view that gambling could be done for the purpose of fun/entertainment and money making, can trading be done for the purpose of fun? The answer is No because trading is for the purpose of investment and business. That's the first point to know that they are not the same thing. But for the money-making part of gambling that people often mistake for trading, is gambling about buying and selling like trading? Certainly No too. Trading is all about buying and selling which makes it business.

But gambling is betting and certainly not a business where two or more parties will be transacting in a market that establishes its own demands and supplies. Where is the demand and supply in gambling? It is pure betting and will never be trading/business. The fact that both are risky doesn't make them the same thing.

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