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It is really different types of gambling. If you play for fun you get positive emotions from the process of gambling. It is nice for relax, even if you lose some money. Of course i`m talking about gambler without problems with the game. When you try to get stable profit - you don`t cares about the game, you just look at the stats, at the game, at the odds and decide to bet or not. Without any emotions. In such case positive emotions you get from the result only.
And just this result can either make you happy or seriously upset you if you lose.  In addition, the very thought of losing will haunt you for some time even after you finish your unsuccessful game that day.  Here we should rather talk about negative emotions from gambling.  But all this, of course, is the case if you have already begun to approach and treat such games as work.
 If you play for your own pleasure, then the thought that losing is a payment for the emotions received from the game is not so difficult and destructive for the player’s psyche and passes quite quickly.
Of course i`m disappointed when i lose, especially the first times. Sometimes i get "lose strike" for 2-3 days. It is even possible that i can lose the week(2 weeks ago the result was -$150). But after several such situations you understand that it is just a part of a job. It is the same with the trading - you can`t win all the deals. Today i don`t care about the day/week result - just continue doing my job.
PS. As i said, now i bet only when i have free time and it disappoints me much more, today i play like common gambler and miss lots of profit.
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It is the same like a job. As you say - if the job becomes boring why you continue to work? The same is with gambling as a job. The difference is that you get fixed salary for the job and can plan how to spend you money and in gambling you can lose 1-2 weeks and get big money after 3 weeks. It makes you to think in another way and you have to use money management not only for gambling but for all you life. Also you must have some money reserved. The gamblers i know have such reserve for 3-4 months of living.

Well, I would not compare gambling with the job as both are different from the basis. In your job, you will not spend the money or invest any money and at the end of the month, you will get a fixed salary. In a job, there is no concept of a loss.
you only need to do the task and you will already earning money and that is the concept of job in which you are also correct
mate this is how we don't wanted to absent for the reason of not having risk chances.


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This is totally the opposite as in gambling you need to invest your money first and then make or lose money from it. The more you invest, the more money you can lose or win as it depends upon the luck. Also, there are many other differences like jobs are totally skill based. Without skills, no one will hire you but gambling does not need any skills. You only need to have money to risk and you can gamble.
Hardly to admit this reality but  yeah gambling is where we spend and risk and mostly loses our payments from job .
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You know how casinos lay it all out, they're taking a gamble just like us? But get this, brokers might just be outdoing them in their own sly way. I’m saying brokers might actually be worse. Why? They’ve got this neat, little setup where they rake in their shares through bid-offer spreads and commissions, all while carrying zero market risk. It’s like having their cake and eating it too, but in secret. We’re all out here rolling the dice, while brokers are the house, cashing in risk-free. What’s your take? Are brokers just silently stacking the deck, snagging a surefire win with every trade we make?
While trading forex, I had a very ugly experience with one broker called exiness. I mean they literally drained me. I never knew brokers have other ways of exploiting or let's say, extorting us. I wasn't taught so. I was taught that brokers make money from commissions and fees but I bet you there are alot more to that. Someone who introduced me to Forex trading later told me to switch to another broker. I did and the loses minimized. It is then I understood that even brokers can be a good reason you win or lose a trade. Select your brokers very well if you wish to be successful on a long run in cryptocurrency trading. If it is possible avoid them totally.
Exactly!! That's why I stop trading in forex because no matter how good your prediction is or even if you are following a prediction, there is something in those broker apps. I don't want to mention it, but based on my experience using 3 different forex brokers, I still don't have any luck. Yes, I earn, but the thing is, it's so hard to even win a single trade in a day. So, as I noticed, I stopped right away and focused on crypto trading. Crypto trading is much more secure, and you will be assured that no one can manipulate or trick you. Your only enemy is how you execute your trade in the market.

I don't know if I have a similar bad experience or the same opinion about forex trading, but as I read your comment, it proved that I'm not alone. I have a similar comment about forex trading.
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I think that a lot depends on the player himself and his psychological portrait. 
If he starts gambling with the feeling that it is work, then it seems to me that such a feeling is much worse than just a relaxed state and the desire to just have fun in his free time. 
Here in the topic there is a mention that in the monthly cycle it would be good to have a constant profit from gambling.  However, in order to achieve such a result, I think you need to have such gaming experience that it amounts to a year or more of intense work with these very gambling games.  So you still need to complete this sort of “gambling university” in order to really be successful.  Well, those who play a little will most likely never be able to achieve such results. 
And he will consider and even sincerely believe that his loss is payment for the pleasure he received from gambling.  In my opinion, this is also a good option for complacency and psychological comfort for the player.
It is really different types of gambling. If you play for fun you get positive emotions from the process of gambling. It is nice for relax, even if you lose some money. Of course i`m talking about gambler without problems with the game. When you try to get stable profit - you don`t cares about the game, you just look at the stats, at the game, at the odds and decide to bet or not. Without any emotions. In such case positive emotions you get from the result only.
And just this result can either make you happy or seriously upset you if you lose.  In addition, the very thought of losing will haunt you for some time even after you finish your unsuccessful game that day.  Here we should rather talk about negative emotions from gambling.  But all this, of course, is the case if you have already begun to approach and treat such games as work.
 If you play for your own pleasure, then the thought that losing is a payment for the emotions received from the game is not so difficult and destructive for the player’s psyche and passes quite quickly.
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I think that a lot depends on the player himself and his psychological portrait. 
If he starts gambling with the feeling that it is work, then it seems to me that such a feeling is much worse than just a relaxed state and the desire to just have fun in his free time. 
Here in the topic there is a mention that in the monthly cycle it would be good to have a constant profit from gambling.  However, in order to achieve such a result, I think you need to have such gaming experience that it amounts to a year or more of intense work with these very gambling games.  So you still need to complete this sort of “gambling university” in order to really be successful.  Well, those who play a little will most likely never be able to achieve such results. 
And he will consider and even sincerely believe that his loss is payment for the pleasure he received from gambling.  In my opinion, this is also a good option for complacency and psychological comfort for the player.
It is really different types of gambling. If you play for fun you get positive emotions from the process of gambling. It is nice for relax, even if you lose some money. Of course i`m talking about gambler without problems with the game. When you try to get stable profit - you don`t cares about the game, you just look at the stats, at the game, at the odds and decide to bet or not. Without any emotions. In such case positive emotions you get from the result only.
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It was difficult. I prepared for it for 2-3 months. I`ve got some money for start, rested, searched information, prediction groups, etc. It wasn`t fast decision like "tomorrow i become a gambling winner". And it was hard to wake up several times per night, stop everything and wait nice odds, for live bets. The result was nice, but i thought that it would be possible to combine the main job, the betting, my family and hobbies. Yes, i could get more money from some other job, or spend it time in some another way, but it was an experiment and i think that it was successful. But i don`t think that i would like to repeat it till i`m working.

This is clearly a great experiment.  Especially if you even managed to make money. 
Now, if any of the novice players are reading this topic and your posts, then it is quite possible to say that such an experiment with gambling should be regarded as the best gaming behavior.
 And it is clear that it was difficult.  It’s also difficult because the brain is constantly busy remembering bets and related related information.  Even in the middle of the night when you wake up. 
But still, this experience is a fascinating journey into the world of gambling.  Fortunately, the trip turned out to be successful and interesting, which does not happen to all gamblers.
The main thing i want to say that it is possible to get money from gambling but it is not easy money as somebody thinks.

But the same time we can`t say that  you can`t get stable profit from gambling. And when i say "stable" i don`t mean "everyday" - but every month must be profitable.
If they think its impossible to earn money on gambling then why they continue to gamble if those people know they would just lost their money in the end whatever efforts they try? Its useless to gamble that way and saying we gamble for fun is just an excuse since all want to win at some point.

We can possibly earn if we have fulfillment on something we earn and can appreciate even if what we receive is small amount. But if they are greedy enough to extend for thinking that they could able to win more then do gamble in bad way then for sure that they will never be successful nor earn something in return for doing this. We maybe can't get stable profit on gambling but at least we have a chance to take out our profit.
I think that a lot depends on the player himself and his psychological portrait. 
If he starts gambling with the feeling that it is work, then it seems to me that such a feeling is much worse than just a relaxed state and the desire to just have fun in his free time. 
Here in the topic there is a mention that in the monthly cycle it would be good to have a constant profit from gambling.  However, in order to achieve such a result, I think you need to have such gaming experience that it amounts to a year or more of intense work with these very gambling games.  So you still need to complete this sort of “gambling university” in order to really be successful.  Well, those who play a little will most likely never be able to achieve such results. 
And he will consider and even sincerely believe that his loss is payment for the pleasure he received from gambling.  In my opinion, this is also a good option for complacency and psychological comfort for the player.
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It is the same like a job. As you say - if the job becomes boring why you continue to work? The same is with gambling as a job. The difference is that you get fixed salary for the job and can plan how to spend you money and in gambling you can lose 1-2 weeks and get big money after 3 weeks. It makes you to think in another way and you have to use money management not only for gambling but for all you life. Also you must have some money reserved. The gamblers i know have such reserve for 3-4 months of living.

Well, I would not compare gambling with the job as both are different from the basis. In your job, you will not spend the money or invest any money and at the end of the month, you will get a fixed salary. In a job, there is no concept of a loss.

This is totally the opposite as in gambling you need to invest your money first and then make or lose money from it. The more you invest, the more money you can lose or win as it depends upon the luck. Also, there are many other differences like jobs are totally skill based. Without skills, no one will hire you but gambling does not need any skills. You only need to have money to risk and you can gamble.
It is true only if you get fixes salary. But if you have some business you always spend your money and don`t sure will you have profit in the end of the month or not. The same is for freelancers, traders for example. There are lots of situation when you work hard and don`t sure that will get money for it.
But it is true that "to work in the gambling" is not for all and it differs from other jobs.
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And yeah, just like you have said, it is completely wrong to compare gambling to a job, there are completely different and don't have don't cross path in any form, generating income from a job can be guaranteed, but generating income from gambling is not guaranteed, and just as you have said, job only requires investment of one's time and energy or brains, depending on the type of job, then the person gets paid by the end of the month, while gambling requires investment of not just money, but also one's time, and brains, depending on what type of game the gambler is playing, and even at this, the gambler will still need to be lucky to win, else, it's still going to end in a loss, shows that there is no guarantee of any kind in gambling.
It's completion out of place to compar gambling to to a skill Jon, because a job is a profession because we have so.e professional jobs and unprofessional jobs which are call minal job at times, but same can't be hard of gambling and in gambling is either you win or lose its a game of chances and also unrealistic and unreliable which make it out of skills, and we can't fine any gambler that can call himself a skilled gamblers because at some point we don't have such in gambling.

Well we make some statements as trading be some form of gambling even though that is not 100% true and trading can still accommodate some level of skills and strategies which can not be apply in gambling so comparing both still can not stand, we have to face it that gambling is risk involved and no matter your experience you can never win over the house and any attempt to do so can only end you in more loses than winning at the end.

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You know how casinos lay it all out, they're taking a gamble just like us? But get this, brokers might just be outdoing them in their own sly way. I’m saying brokers might actually be worse. Why? They’ve got this neat, little setup where they rake in their shares through bid-offer spreads and commissions, all while carrying zero market risk. It’s like having their cake and eating it too, but in secret. We’re all out here rolling the dice, while brokers are the house, cashing in risk-free. What’s your take? Are brokers just silently stacking the deck, snagging a surefire win with every trade we make?
While trading forex, I had a very ugly experience with one broker called exiness. I mean they literally drained me. I never knew brokers have other ways of exploiting or let's say, extorting us. I wasn't taught so. I was taught that brokers make money from commissions and fees but I bet you there are alot more to that. Someone who introduced me to Forex trading later told me to switch to another broker. I did and the loses minimized. It is then I understood that even brokers can be a good reason you win or lose a trade. Select your brokers very well if you wish to be successful on a long run in cryptocurrency trading. If it is possible avoid them totally.
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It is the same like a job. As you say - if the job becomes boring why you continue to work? The same is with gambling as a job. The difference is that you get fixed salary for the job and can plan how to spend you money and in gambling you can lose 1-2 weeks and get big money after 3 weeks. It makes you to think in another way and you have to use money management not only for gambling but for all you life. Also you must have some money reserved. The gamblers i know have such reserve for 3-4 months of living.

Well, I would not compare gambling with the job as both are different from the basis. In your job, you will not spend the money or invest any money and at the end of the month, you will get a fixed salary. In a job, there is no concept of a loss.

This is totally the opposite as in gambling you need to invest your money first and then make or lose money from it. The more you invest, the more money you can lose or win as it depends upon the luck. Also, there are many other differences like jobs are totally skill based. Without skills, no one will hire you but gambling does not need any skills. You only need to have money to risk and you can gamble.
Completely agree with you, though not all jobs are skill based, for example, the job of a cleaner is not skill based, the job of a gate man is not skill based, and coming back to white collar jobs, what about a fresh graduate who hasn't acquired any skill or working experience, how do they get hired?, it is sometimes a bit difficult but they still get hired by the end of the day, and from there, they start building their skills.

And yeah, just like you have said, it is completely wrong to compare gambling to a job, there are completely different and don't have don't cross path in any form, generating income from a job can be guaranteed, but generating income from gambling is not guaranteed, and just as you have said, job only requires investment of one's time and energy or brains, depending on the type of job, then the person gets paid by the end of the month, while gambling requires investment of not just money, but also one's time, and brains, depending on what type of game the gambler is playing, and even at this, the gambler will still need to be lucky to win, else, it's still going to end in a loss, shows that there is no guarantee of any kind in gambling.
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It is the same like a job. As you say - if the job becomes boring why you continue to work? The same is with gambling as a job. The difference is that you get fixed salary for the job and can plan how to spend you money and in gambling you can lose 1-2 weeks and get big money after 3 weeks. It makes you to think in another way and you have to use money management not only for gambling but for all you life. Also you must have some money reserved. The gamblers i know have such reserve for 3-4 months of living.

Well, I would not compare gambling with the job as both are different from the basis. In your job, you will not spend the money or invest any money and at the end of the month, you will get a fixed salary. In a job, there is no concept of a loss.

This is totally the opposite as in gambling you need to invest your money first and then make or lose money from it. The more you invest, the more money you can lose or win as it depends upon the luck. Also, there are many other differences like jobs are totally skill based. Without skills, no one will hire you but gambling does not need any skills. You only need to have money to risk and you can gamble.
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       -    Actually, I'm wondering if the broker is related or similar to the casino. Because it seems far-fetched to compare a broker to gambling in a casino. Isn't that broker only for Forex traders? I can't see its connection here at the casino.


I guess op just wanted to throw in the broker stuff here instead of the traders wing otherwise I also don't see correlation of brokerage in gambling or casinos because that is a direct stake or the casino which is an end to itself and not a middle man like the broker would do in the financial market. However, brokers don't only operate in the forex trading, they also exist banking and insurance, stocks, derivatives market etc.
Forex is more of financial trading activities, and not like gambling that you have to risk it all, in trading, one risk either the profits and loses, and mentaining the assets, while I gambling you can lose 100% and not be left with anything at all.


So I believe this discussion fits best at the trading discussions but then since ops already mentioned the comparison between gambling and stock, it make a little if we contribute our portion to this discussion.
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The main thing i want to say that it is possible to get money from gambling but it is not easy money as somebody thinks. You must to work hard to get positive result. Like in any kind of job or business. And i don`t recommend anybody to believe that he can become successful gambler after 2 good bets.
But the same time we can`t say that  you can`t get stable profit from gambling. And when i say "stable" i don`t mean "everyday" - but every month must be profitable.
IMO there's  nothing  like working harder to get a positive result  in gambling, a gambler could get a huge jackpot in his first game or in his first  10 games  while someone haven't hit a jack pot  for months of playing.
The way is see gambling  is beign able to think, smartness and more percentage  of luck, yeah! you heard me right you have to be lucky enough to hit a jackpot not just working hard  Smiley.

Gamblers  will be surprised  in their quest to hitting  this jackpot of a thing when you get addicted (in a wrong way, taking it as a job) instead of playing  responsibly, fine! if a gambler wish  to take it as a job and he's aware of the risks, then so be it  he made his decision, either he's  right or wrong is left to him to decide
I don`t try to hit jackpot. I make odds between 2 and 10, sometimes multibets, sometimes bets with the odd more than 50 for fun. When i bet like a job - it was lots of money management. I increased/decreased bets, moved some money to "bank", etc. Gambler who wants to hit jackpot mostly lose as the result.


The main thing i want to say that it is possible to get money from gambling but it is not easy money as somebody thinks.

But the same time we can`t say that  you can`t get stable profit from gambling. And when i say "stable" i don`t mean "everyday" - but every month must be profitable.
If they think its impossible to earn money on gambling then why they continue to gamble if those people know they would just lost their money in the end whatever efforts they try? Its useless to gamble that way and saying we gamble for fun is just an excuse since all want to win at some point.

We can possibly earn if we have fulfillment on something we earn and can appreciate even if what we receive is small amount. But if they are greedy enough to extend for thinking that they could able to win more then do gamble in bad way then for sure that they will never be successful nor earn something in return for doing this. We maybe can't get stable profit on gambling but at least we have a chance to take out our profit.
I don`t know why. Somebody want to hit jackpot, somebody wants to get easy money. But it doesn`t work so. It is possible to get big prize, but it is paid by the main part of other gamblers, who lost.
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It was difficult. I prepared for it for 2-3 months. I`ve got some money for start, rested, searched information, prediction groups, etc. It wasn`t fast decision like "tomorrow i become a gambling winner". And it was hard to wake up several times per night, stop everything and wait nice odds, for live bets. The result was nice, but i thought that it would be possible to combine the main job, the betting, my family and hobbies. Yes, i could get more money from some other job, or spend it time in some another way, but it was an experiment and i think that it was successful. But i don`t think that i would like to repeat it till i`m working.

This is clearly a great experiment.  Especially if you even managed to make money. 
Now, if any of the novice players are reading this topic and your posts, then it is quite possible to say that such an experiment with gambling should be regarded as the best gaming behavior.
 And it is clear that it was difficult.  It’s also difficult because the brain is constantly busy remembering bets and related related information.  Even in the middle of the night when you wake up. 
But still, this experience is a fascinating journey into the world of gambling.  Fortunately, the trip turned out to be successful and interesting, which does not happen to all gamblers.
The main thing i want to say that it is possible to get money from gambling but it is not easy money as somebody thinks.

But the same time we can`t say that  you can`t get stable profit from gambling. And when i say "stable" i don`t mean "everyday" - but every month must be profitable.
If they think its impossible to earn money on gambling then why they continue to gamble if those people know they would just lost their money in the end whatever efforts they try? Its useless to gamble that way and saying we gamble for fun is just an excuse since all want to win at some point.

We can possibly earn if we have fulfillment on something we earn and can appreciate even if what we receive is small amount. But if they are greedy enough to extend for thinking that they could able to win more then do gamble in bad way then for sure that they will never be successful nor earn something in return for doing this. We maybe can't get stable profit on gambling but at least we have a chance to take out our profit.
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We may not have to compare all these together because some of them are not the same with each other, gambling most especially is a different form of getting entertained with fun and others are more about making an investment or business while the brokers are the intermediaries between brokers, all we need to know is what constitutes whatever thing we are going in for,when we have the understanding, we will not be cheated and we are going to be at the top of having it's best satisfaction.
You are trying to establish a meaningful point but you never concluded it well and no matter what we think about gambling and business, they are certainly not the same thing. Let me start with your points and twist them a little bit for more understanding.

If you look at it from the view that gambling could be done for the purpose of fun/entertainment and money making, can trading be done for the purpose of fun? The answer is No because trading is for the purpose of investment and business. That's the first point to know that they are not the same thing. But for the money-making part of gambling that people often mistake for trading, is gambling about buying and selling like trading? Certainly No too. Trading is all about buying and selling which makes it business.

But gambling is betting and certainly not a business where two or more parties will be transacting in a market that establishes its own demands and supplies. Where is the demand and supply in gambling? It is pure betting and will never be trading/business. The fact that both are risky doesn't make them the same thing.
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The main thing i want to say that it is possible to get money from gambling but it is not easy money as somebody thinks. You must to work hard to get positive result. Like in any kind of job or business. And i don`t recommend anybody to believe that he can become successful gambler after 2 good bets.
But the same time we can`t say that  you can`t get stable profit from gambling. And when i say "stable" i don`t mean "everyday" - but every month must be profitable.
IMO there's  nothing  like working harder to get a positive result  in gambling, a gambler could get a huge jackpot in his first game or in his first  10 games  while someone haven't hit a jack pot  for months of playing.
The way is see gambling  is beign able to think, smartness and more percentage  of luck, yeah! you heard me right you have to be lucky enough to hit a jackpot not just working hard  Smiley.

Gamblers  will be surprised  in their quest to hitting  this jackpot of a thing when you get addicted (in a wrong way, taking it as a job) instead of playing  responsibly, fine! if a gambler wish  to take it as a job and he's aware of the risks, then so be it  he made his decision, either he's  right or wrong is left to him to decide
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well yeah , nothing in this world is risk free though at least LESS RISK is what the best term to use in that part right?  Grin Grin
but still broker is on of the best job to have as long as you are already mature and knowledgeable in that area because most of the time this is capital free and you only need to use your connection and your Saliva to earn.
Yeah, I think I agree with you that such work of brokers cannot be called too risky.  
This is probably more of a medium risk job.
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yet RISK mate hahaha, Low,medium or High yet it is still risk that we should consider .

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And much, of course, depends on the experience and rational gaming behavior of the broker.  And it also depends on the character traits of these people.  But I am convinced of one thing - that such activity is very exhausting work for the nervous system.
also agree on this .I am a type of person that also can easily be exhausted so that is why I think this should be considerable by all means.

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I think that anyway, brokers are constantly in a fairly serious stressful situation and this, in turn, provokes the emergence of various other diseases.  So this kind of work can be considered “harmful”.
with this, We will both agree , harmful it is  Grin Grin
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It was difficult. I prepared for it for 2-3 months. I`ve got some money for start, rested, searched information, prediction groups, etc. It wasn`t fast decision like "tomorrow i become a gambling winner". And it was hard to wake up several times per night, stop everything and wait nice odds, for live bets. The result was nice, but i thought that it would be possible to combine the main job, the betting, my family and hobbies. Yes, i could get more money from some other job, or spend it time in some another way, but it was an experiment and i think that it was successful. But i don`t think that i would like to repeat it till i`m working.

This is clearly a great experiment.  Especially if you even managed to make money. 
Now, if any of the novice players are reading this topic and your posts, then it is quite possible to say that such an experiment with gambling should be regarded as the best gaming behavior.
 And it is clear that it was difficult.  It’s also difficult because the brain is constantly busy remembering bets and related related information.  Even in the middle of the night when you wake up. 
But still, this experience is a fascinating journey into the world of gambling.  Fortunately, the trip turned out to be successful and interesting, which does not happen to all gamblers.
The main thing i want to say that it is possible to get money from gambling but it is not easy money as somebody thinks. You must to work hard to get positive result. Like in any kind of job or business. And i don`t recommend anybody to believe that he can become successful gambler after 2 good bets.
But the same time we can`t say that  you can`t get stable profit from gambling. And when i say "stable" i don`t mean "everyday" - but every month must be profitable.
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It is true for common gambler. He mostly spend some money to relax. But there are poker players, betters - for some of them gambling is a job. They get stable profit from gambling. I`m in sport betting for 3 years and still winning. Some time ago it was a period, i spent all my time for betting and i`ve got about $800 per month. But it was all my time and i had no time for my family, hobbies, rest. As the result i compared the profit between gambling and job and chose job. Now i bet when i have free time but still get some additional profit every month.

This example of yours is most likely ideal. 
If you manage to earn money at your main job, and then also make winning bets that bring even a small income, then this is certainly your achievement of optimal gambling.  But you must admit that without that period of time when you devoted all your time to gambling, you would hardly have achieved such a balance of life interests.  Experience in gambling is a great thing!  And this experience also required, as I understand, a lot of your time.  On the other hand, it seems that if you spent this time on some other income, then who knows where you would earn more.  So these are uncertainties in the life of any person, where it is not known in advance what to do better.  Probably the best option is the way you described it.  But without time spent on experience,
it is unlikely to be achievable by an ordinary person just starting to gamble.
It was difficult. I prepared for it for 2-3 months. I`ve got some money for start, rested, searched information, prediction groups, etc. It wasn`t fast decision like "tomorrow i become a gambling winner". And it was hard to wake up several times per night, stop everything and wait nice odds, for live bets. The result was nice, but i thought that it would be possible to combine the main job, the betting, my family and hobbies. Yes, i could get more money from some other job, or spend it time in some another way, but it was an experiment and i think that it was successful. But i don`t think that i would like to repeat it till i`m working.

This is clearly a great experiment.  Especially if you even managed to make money. 
Now, if any of the novice players are reading this topic and your posts, then it is quite possible to say that such an experiment with gambling should be regarded as the best gaming behavior.
 And it is clear that it was difficult.  It’s also difficult because the brain is constantly busy remembering bets and related related information.  Even in the middle of the night when you wake up. 
But still, this experience is a fascinating journey into the world of gambling.  Fortunately, the trip turned out to be successful and interesting, which does not happen to all gamblers.

Approach towards gambling shouldnt really be something that you would really be putting up your focus on into it but rather it would be best that you should be putting up on focus on how you would really be
dealing with it. Doesnt matter whether you do gamble or involved with stocks crypto market. The important here is that you do able to distinguish about the risks factor of both things.
It wont really be that so hard for you to be able know on what are those risks levels in between things so it wouldnt be so hard on how you would be able to deal with it.

The thing here is that these things are businesses on which its normal that they do make money but of course they've been pass through to lots of challenges
before they would really be able to reach out into that pinnacle of success as a business owner.
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It is true for common gambler. He mostly spend some money to relax. But there are poker players, betters - for some of them gambling is a job. They get stable profit from gambling. I`m in sport betting for 3 years and still winning. Some time ago it was a period, i spent all my time for betting and i`ve got about $800 per month. But it was all my time and i had no time for my family, hobbies, rest. As the result i compared the profit between gambling and job and chose job. Now i bet when i have free time but still get some additional profit every month.

This example of yours is most likely ideal. 
If you manage to earn money at your main job, and then also make winning bets that bring even a small income, then this is certainly your achievement of optimal gambling.  But you must admit that without that period of time when you devoted all your time to gambling, you would hardly have achieved such a balance of life interests.  Experience in gambling is a great thing!  And this experience also required, as I understand, a lot of your time.  On the other hand, it seems that if you spent this time on some other income, then who knows where you would earn more.  So these are uncertainties in the life of any person, where it is not known in advance what to do better.  Probably the best option is the way you described it.  But without time spent on experience,
it is unlikely to be achievable by an ordinary person just starting to gamble.
It was difficult. I prepared for it for 2-3 months. I`ve got some money for start, rested, searched information, prediction groups, etc. It wasn`t fast decision like "tomorrow i become a gambling winner". And it was hard to wake up several times per night, stop everything and wait nice odds, for live bets. The result was nice, but i thought that it would be possible to combine the main job, the betting, my family and hobbies. Yes, i could get more money from some other job, or spend it time in some another way, but it was an experiment and i think that it was successful. But i don`t think that i would like to repeat it till i`m working.

This is clearly a great experiment.  Especially if you even managed to make money. 
Now, if any of the novice players are reading this topic and your posts, then it is quite possible to say that such an experiment with gambling should be regarded as the best gaming behavior.
 And it is clear that it was difficult.  It’s also difficult because the brain is constantly busy remembering bets and related related information.  Even in the middle of the night when you wake up. 
But still, this experience is a fascinating journey into the world of gambling.  Fortunately, the trip turned out to be successful and interesting, which does not happen to all gamblers.
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