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This crisis is really unexpected so we can't blame workers who are asking for their companies' help. During this time, employees would know if their employers value them and have a concern for their situation. It's like a survival game for most of us so we can't rely everything on the government or even for companies who are also trying to save themselves from bankruptcy.
^ Definitely right, we need to survive at this moment. It is really sad to those people who did not have savings for any tragedies come in the future, just like what happened now, everyone was not ready and they don't have enough saving in order to survive without help from their employer or any help from the government. Nevertheless, I never heard government such a country affected by a coronavirus that never helps their citizen.
Most of the people don't save for the hard times that can come at any time in the future, they tend to live from paycheck to paycheck and in the case of an international pandemic where every thing is shut down they don't have their jobs which are the only source of income for them. So the employer should always think about his employees rather than always making profit and he should give a month or two salary in advance to the employees for sake of these hard times.
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This crisis is really unexpected so we can't blame workers who are asking for their companies' help. During this time, employees would know if their employers value them and have a concern for their situation. It's like a survival game for most of us so we can't rely everything on the government or even for companies who are also trying to save themselves from bankruptcy.
^ Definitely right, we need to survive at this moment. It is really sad to those people who did not have savings for any tragedies come in the future, just like what happened now, everyone was not ready and they don't have enough saving in order to survive without help from their employer or any help from the government. Nevertheless, I never heard government such a country affected by a coronavirus that never helps their citizen.
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Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.
While I agree that businesses should be socially responsible and if they can they should support their employees which have been part of the reason for their success, at the same time we cannot put all the responsibility on the shoulders of those businesses, I have a lot of friends that are suffering in this crisis and they lost their jobs, but even if they earned a good amount of money over the years they have no savings they could use to sustain themselves despite the fact that is basic knowledge that you should have a few months worth of savings in the case you lose your job, as such people that have no savings are also responsible for the difficult situation they are in and should shoulder the responsibility as well.
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Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Casino workers in Las Vegas showed their disappointment and anger towards their employers who failed to help and provide them what they need. Famous Las Vegas Strip of glitzy hotels and casino is closed due to lockdown, and thousands of their employees were left with no work and income. However, some casinos were able to support their workers and offered them a two-week salary, others gave four, while some gave nothing.

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"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

Las Vegas has more than 40 million visitors every year and it is known for casinos. According to the American Gaming Association, if all casinos in the US will continue to be closed until mid-May, including nearby restaurants and bars, $43.5 billion in economic activity will lose.


The treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, Geoconda Arguello-Kline called giant operating casinos to do their responsibility in the community.

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“We feel the casino industry right now, they left their workers alone… it’s a very painful situation,” said Arguello-Kline.




Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

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That's the struggle of most workers from most of the companies around the world that are affected by the pandemic crisis. This pandemic situation would make us realize that saving for the future is really necessary. This crisis is really unexpected so we can't blame workers who are asking for their companies' help. During this time, employees would know if their employers value them and have a concern for their situation. It's like a survival game for most of us so we can't rely everything on the government or even for companies who are also trying to save themselves from bankruptcy.
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Workers have a right to ask a help from their employer but I think not just a salary. And that is correct, that is not mandatory to the gambling owner to give them because some of the company owners implement this rule, "No work, No pay". It is naturally now that all from in a business industry was totally down their revenue but it is always good if they will help their workers. There's nothing we can do if our employers did not give any help, our government must take action about this.
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Of course, they need to have some sort of support from their company too, they were the one who was working all this time to make them rich. It does make sense if they asking some beneficiaries from their respective companies. because they are their people they need to help them. Right now all necessary means if legal should be done because if we don't do such act, we won't die on the virus, we die on hunger.
They need comassions from their respective employers, this people serve the company they are not aware and unprepared with how things turned
with this pandemic virus, they will appreciate all the help that their companies will provide to them. Casino owners have reserve money surely they
can afford to release such amount to help their employees to survive from this crisis.
Well, all of you were right. But it depends on the department of labor and employment orders because that is not mandatory for the company to give salary to their employee. But once the department of labor and employment makes a statement that employer should help their workers during their situation that there is calamity disaster come, for sure they will do.
Indeed, if you are a company owner, you can think that it is good to pay back your employee's hard work just for your own benefits before.
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A terrible situation (as in many other industries). I am happy for those whom the state helps with money - for example, this is not the case in my country, so my situation is more complicated  Undecided
Interestingly, in connection with the closure of offline casinos, has the number of online players increased? Or did people’s lack of income play a role here?

Every individual is facing different situation these days. Some are even getting paid even if they are not working but their company agrees to pay them. Some are being fired and some are just not being paid for the time they had not worked. This is the situation of those who are mostly on the jobs. Businessmen have different issues like people not buying services or product and this includes lack of people in online gambling at the present moment because people do not have extra funds to spend on gambling.
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Of course, they need to have some sort of support from their company too, they were the one who was working all this time to make them rich. It does make sense if they asking some beneficiaries from their respective companies. because they are their people they need to help them. Right now all necessary means if legal should be done because if we don't do such act, we won't die on the virus, we die on hunger.
They need comassions from their respective employers, this people serve the company they are not aware and unprepared with how things turned
with this pandemic virus, they will appreciate all the help that their companies will provide to them. Casino owners have reserve money surely they
can afford to release such amount to help their employees to survive from this crisis.
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A terrible situation (as in many other industries). I am happy for those whom the state helps with money - for example, this is not the case in my country, so my situation is more complicated  Undecided
Interestingly, in connection with the closure of offline casinos, has the number of online players increased? Or did people’s lack of income play a role here?
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"We often think about gambling businesses having no income"

- I think this is wrong though, gambling business is a big income business and even though they've closest their casino, they have a lot of money at their disposal. And they could compensate their employees, whether it is a regular paying employee or not. They owe their success to those hard working guys and they should return this big favor to all the people around them. They can definitely cover all the lost they have incurred in this lock down very easily, once everything settles down.
I agree with you that the gambling business is a high-income business, but one's wealth has its limits, especially the owner of the gambling business.. just imagine if a casino owner who has one hundred employees with an average salary of $ 1000 / month then the casino owner must spend is $ 100,000/ month during this "PANDEMIC", researchers have confirmed that they cannot be sure when this PANDEMIC ends..

IMO.. reducing employee salaries from 50% - 70% is the best decision that should be made by all business people (not just gambling entrepreneurs) during this "PANDEMIC" period..
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Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Casino workers in Las Vegas showed their disappointment and anger towards their employers who failed to help and provide them what they need. Famous Las Vegas Strip of glitzy hotels and casino is closed due to lockdown, and thousands of their employees were left with no work and income. However, some casinos were able to support their workers and offered them a two-week salary, others gave four, while some gave nothing.

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"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

Las Vegas has more than 40 million visitors every year and it is known for casinos. According to the American Gaming Association, if all casinos in the US will continue to be closed until mid-May, including nearby restaurants and bars, $43.5 billion in economic activity will lose.


The treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, Geoconda Arguello-Kline called giant operating casinos to do their responsibility in the community.

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“We feel the casino industry right now, they left their workers alone… it’s a very painful situation,” said Arguello-Kline.




Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

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https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/10/las-vegas-casino-workers-abandoned-in-ghost-town/



I think they can pay casino workers in advance because casino workers doesn't have any income aside frok casino and they have no income totally since all of the casinos are offline and closed. I hope their government can help them because they need really need it. Maybe they can work from their home by servicing online gambling and they can also play. I hope they can get a way to survive the shutdown.
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Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

This is really sad.

In our country, the president is wanting their employers to pay their employees despite them not working for weeks because of the ECQ. I think it is also a consideration in this quarantine for these people that are providing to their families. I agree that it is their responsibility as their employers and they are not doing that responsibility.
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Just like what is happening the whole world?every cities now has their own employees asking for help this becomes sensational because they are from Biggest casinos in the world so attention has been there.
But what are the difference between those casino employees and others?there is none lol and this is the reality now.
here in my City there are also many people crying for Help but no one is listening.
but i am still hoping that casino owners will Hear their sentiments .
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Of course, they need to have some sort of support from their company too, they were the one who was working all this time to make them rich. It does make sense if they asking some beneficiaries from their respective companies. because they are their people they need to help them. Right now all necessary means if legal should be done because if we don't do such act, we won't die on the virus, we die on hunger.
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Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

But if they don't show care to their employees, no workers will be local to them. If they only want an employer-employee relationship, workers won't bother to stay long in that kind of business. They also need to feel the care of their company in an emergency situation. Business is nothing if it's not for their workers. They should appreciate their work.

   Plvbob0070 I totally agree with you!!! My younger sister works in casino, she is on holiday more than a month,
casino where she works is closed when pandemic started. Owner of casino is still pays them, and told them to
not worry about paycheck and their jobs, when they start working again owners expect all of them to come back
and work! That is fair! Now in time of crisis is not very nice when owners show irresponsibility towards their workers.
If someone throw me on the street now, I wouldn't go back there! People would find better job they can have respect, in good and bad times.

It's fair in the time of crisis but although employers is not oblige to pay their employers since on the other hand they are affected to but in the name of humanity for sure they can cover since they are rich and can able to support the one who make them rich in time of crisis and luckily your sister got a good employer since the other are struggling since they didn't get any support just what plvbob given on his thread.

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Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

But if they don't show care to their employees, no workers will be local to them. If they only want an employer-employee relationship, workers won't bother to stay long in that kind of business. They also need to feel the care of their company in an emergency situation. Business is nothing if it's not for their workers. They should appreciate their work.

   Plvbob0070 I totally agree with you!!! My younger sister works in casino, she is on holiday more than a month,
casino where she works is closed when pandemic started. Owner of casino is still pays them, and told them to
not worry about paycheck and their jobs, when they start working again owners expect all of them to come back
and work! That is fair! Now in time of crisis is not very nice when owners show irresponsibility towards their workers.
If someone throw me on the street now, I wouldn't go back there! People would find better job they can have respect, in good and bad times.
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Governments have bailout plans and other related economic packets for helping the threatened sectors of the economy. The latest global lockdown has affected the casino workers too and the situation becomes worse every day of the quarantine. Gamblers have alternative choices such as playing online games but the conditions are not fair for casino employees.

We are worried about how can we gamble in times like this. We have our alternatives like online gambling, but casino workers don't. For sure the government is doing its part, but companies also have their parts. It's to help their workers.

Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

But if they don't show care to their employees, no workers will be loyal to them. If they only want an employer-employee relationship, workers won't bother to stay long in that kind of business. They also need to feel the care of their company in an emergency situation. Business is nothing if it's not for their workers. They should appreciate their work.


I'm not saying that they should pay them every month. But a simple consideration for their workers. There are paid leaves, and they can deduct their leaves so that workers can still have their salary in the meantime. The government should be taking action to help their people, but companies also have their roles for their workers.
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It's not just casino, almost all of the businesses are hurt from this unexpected crisis. And every of them are demanding some sort of stimulus package and most of nations have provided some form of stimulus according to their capacity. Demanding a separate pay for work they have not done would bring more problems than solutions. The first priority at the moment is to live. Money can be earned at a later date if you survive.
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But considering that casino owners are rich and they can very well afford to provide at least the monthly wage of their workers to at least survive this pandemic. These owners don't have to do charity work outside, just providing the basic salary of their workers would be more than enough. Ok they have losses, but before this pandemic happens, they are earning millions of dollars per day and how much is the salary of their workers? I really hope they will consider the welfare of their employees. Once this is over, those workers might think twice if they want to go back to their old jobs.

Do you mean these rich owners should support their employers a lifetime or while shutdown? What if the lockdown lasted for about a year? They aren't obliged to do it since in the first place all are affected. Being them as rich doesn't play a role here. It's nice though if they will do that.

As long as the company supports them during the early weeks, that's fine. The salary and additional bonus should be well enough to cover at least a month. But if no support made then that's the time they can shout to the company and even sue them.

The government itself must play a role here to provide assistance to all, not the owners themselves. And I know these companies and sectors are also contributing to donations.

Yes, that's a fact, it is the responsibility of the government to give the community the necessities they should've in order to survive the quarantine. Most especially, that the cure or vaccine is not that easy to discover, so we have no idea when this pandemic will end. There are a lot of families that are starving because of the virus, they can't go to work and earn their salary. Luckily, there are some big companies who help its workers to have some funds that is enough for a short period of time. Although it is not enough, we should be grateful that there are some companies who are doing their best just to help its workers to have something to feed for their family. The crucial thing here is that the government should allocate some funds for its people so that it lessen the suffering of those who really need some assistance and support.
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I think this is possible because in our country all of the workers has been given an assitance by the Department of Labor and Employment and some company requires to give assistance to their workers as well, it is the right thing to do because they are all deserve that help with all their hardworks and efforts for the company. A simple help with their boss with this current situation where crisis is still affecting so many lives is very appreciative, this would make them more loyal working on your company.

Humanity restored, this is essential most especially to those workers who have family to feed for. It is not easy to earn money, plus this lockdown prohibit workers to do their and have nothing but no salary. The company should owe some money to their workers to increase their loyalty to the company and safety inside their house. That's right, a simple help will make them fight and survive this quarantine, most especially, we have no idea when this crisis will end. The company should also worry about its worker's health and state that's why it is very essential to do your work passionately.

Casino gambling is very profitable so the assistance that they are going to give to ther employee is just a simple thing for them. They earn so much money in casino so I think they will help their workers.

I'm pretty sure that if the company is big enough, it will not have a hard time to give money to its workers. They will not have a second thought if they will do that with their own humility to give people what they need in this kind of crisis. Helping other people is essential as they will appreciate it after they reflect on the help that they have received.
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